Using hydromorphone for the first time. First opiate used ever, please assist!

[sperry]

Hi all,

I've recently come into acquisition of 14 1mg tablets of hydromorphone. I have never used opiates of any sort before, thus having low or zero tolerance. I've read on many posts that snorting it just isn't the same as taking it intravenously. I have no prior experience with needles and I would like to be very careful as this would be my first time. Can hydromorphone be taken by IM'ing it?

Can you please provide me with some reliable information that would help me achieve my goal? I have used many other drugs, but not opiates. I need to know how much to take, and how to take it responsibly. I do not know how to give myself an intravenous injection, so a step by step guide would be very helpful.

If I decide it's too dangerous to take via IV, how much should I snort?

I only plan on doing this once, I'm just an experimentalist. I've had dreams about how good opiates feel and I would really like to know for myself!
Thanks for your help and time! Looking forward to some answers!

 

[PeacePipeChief]

yeah dont iv it too many people have said what uve said and ended up helpless addicts within weeks , just snort one to start and another after half an hour if its not enough . Hopefully someone else will have better advice .

 

[tokenname]

how about don't start with hydromorphone?
you have no experience with opiates..
why would you start with this..
you could probably get high off two vics..


stay away....
trade them for something you'd never consider iv'ing...
and something nowhere near as strong...it's overkill.

token

 

[sperry]

yeah dont iv it too many people have said what uve said and ended up helpless addicts within weeks , just snort one to start and another after half an hour if its not enough . Hopefully someone else will have better advice .

I'm aware of the risks. I have the least addictive persona type that I know of and I've used many things (cigarettes, cocaine) on a semi-regular basis without getting addicted. I don't use those drugs anymore however, and now my attention has turned to opiates. I'm aware that the addiction potential to dilaudids are much stronger but I'm not that worried.

It's not like I can ever get any more of these anyway, they weren't prescribed to me and there is definitely not a thriving community around it where I live. I don't think I could find more if I tried. Really, its just a one time thing. I'm sure I'll be fine, I just need to know if the needle is supposed to go all the way into the vein, and how much to take.

how about don't start with hydromorphone?
you have no experience with opiates..
why would you start with this..
you could probably get high off two vics..


stay away....
trade them for something you'd never consider iv'ing...
and something nowhere near as strong...it's overkill.

token

Well, I'm aware that they are pretty strong. However, they just kind of fell into my lap, I wouldn't know who to trade them to or how for that matter. I'm not really into that type of the drug community and none of my friends or anyone I know does this sort of thing. Even if I were to get rid of them, I probably wouldn't go looking for something weaker like vics. This is good enough for now since I have them. Just advice please, lol.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

I'm sure I'll be fine, I just need to know if the needle is supposed to go all the way into the vein, and how much to take.

....Wow. That's perhaps the scariest thing I've ever read. STOP your train of thought right now, because you're going to kill yourself.

The fact you're even contemplating IV'ing for your first time ever doing an opiate, especially hydromorph, is beyond idiotic and incredibly insane. The fact that you clearly know nothing about even basic IV'ing judging by the question you asked just adds to the insanity.

Snort a quarter of a pill and see how you feel.. then snort another quarter. Hydromorphone is a very potent opiate and extremely dangerous especially for someone so opiate naive.

But good God, please get the notion of IV'ing out of your head.

 

[mrflowers00]

just snort a half a pill to start and if in 40min your not feeling real good snort the other half and don't IM a pill it will hurt very bad and could easily cause an abscess to form

 

[tokenname]

Well, I'm aware that they are pretty strong. However, they just kind of fell into my lap, I wouldn't know who to trade them to or how for that matter. I'm not really into that type of the drug community and none of my friends or anyone I know does this sort of thing. Even if I were to get rid of them, I probably wouldn't go looking for something weaker like vics. This is good enough for now since I have them. Just advice please, lol.

That was my advice sorry you didn't like it..

if you don't want to hear that...
then this instead...

snort .5. a pill..wait 30-40 minutes to be sure how you're feeling before redosing..or re insufflating another .5 of the pill.
forget iv'ing or im'ing anything. go slow w/any opiate...you can't take less....

token

 

[sperry]

....Wow. That's perhaps the scariest thing I've ever read. STOP your train of thought right now, because you're going to kill yourself.

The fact you're even contemplating IV'ing for your first time ever doing an opiate, especially hydromorph, is beyond idiotic and incredibly insane. The fact that you clearly know nothing about even basic IV'ing judging by the question you asked just adds to the insanity.

Snort a quarter of a pill and see how you feel.. then snort another quarter. Hydromorphone is a very potent opiate and extremely dangerous especially for someone so opiate naive.

But good God, please get the notion of IV'ing out of your head.

Okay, okay. I won't try. I know I'm quite the virgin to all this and maybe it's better to do it when someone who knows what they are doing is around. I'll try snorting it, thanks for talking me out of it. I'm sure I'll get another opportunity during my lifetime.

That was my advice sorry you didn't like it..

if you don't want to hear that...
then this instead...

snort .5. a pill..wait 30-40 minutes to be sure how you're feeling before redosing..or re insufflating another .5 of the pill.
forget iv'ing or im'ing anything. go slow w/any opiate...you can't take less....

token

Thank you token, I appreciate any advice I just meant I was going to do it anyway, regardless so good advice is better than none on the subject. I won't try to IV it, I would really like to try someday, but obviously as others have pointed out too, I'm not ready for that and I don't want to die. lol

 

[Toosick]

If you have never done PMs and your starting on Hydromorphone be ready to build a fast tolerance and a strong addiction. I wouldn't really suggest taking them at all.

 

[tokenname]

If you have never done PMs and your starting on Hydromorphone be ready to build a fast tolerance and a strong addiction. I wouldn't really suggest taking them at all.

The op has made it clear that this is going to happen..
no iv'ing thankfully...

and to avoid being hypocritical..
if i could go back...

i would advise myself not to do alot of things I've done as well...

also, i wouldn't turn hydromorphone down if it fell in my lap...
tho i am not opiate naive...

no iv for me tho...that part wasn't hypocritical, at least.

token

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Do not even think about IVing opiates if you have no experience with opiates.

1mg is a good starting dosage for somebody without a tolerance. Maybe even less than that. Snorting is the best method for hydromorphone. It isn't very effective orally.

I would start with 1mg, wait 40-50 minutes after you snort it...and see how you feel. If you feel like you need more, work your way up with smaller dosages (1/2 or 1/4 of a pill).

Going right to IVing hydromorphone as a person with no opiate experience is a bad idea.

 

[tokenname]

NT- Do you think 1mg hydrocodone is a safe dose for someone who's never done any opiate?
serious question...no attitude involved. I thought that would be too much to recommend.

~token

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

The first time I did hydromorphone I only had a very very small amount of experience and tolerance with hydrocodone (in the 5-15mg range) and 1mg was just under enough for me. It depends on the person.

1mg is certainly safe. If the OP wants to play it extra safe, they should start with half a pill (0.5mg), wait 40-50minutes, then see where they are.

0.5-1.0mg is a good starting dosage for a beginner. If I was in charge of everybody's introduction to opiates, it wouldn't be with hydromorphone to be begin with...but since the OP has these...

 

[tokenname]

The first time I did hydromorphone I only had a very very small amount of experience and tolerance with hydrocodone (in the 5-15mg range) and 1mg was just under enough for me. It depends on the person.

1mg is certainly safe. If the OP wants to play it extra safe, they should start with half a pill (0.5mg), wait 40-50minutes, then see where they are.

0.5-1.0mg is a good starting dosage for a beginner. If I was in charge of everybody's introduction to opiates, it wouldn't be with hydromorphone to be begin with...but since the OP has these...

Got it. Ty. I was scared to say insufflate 1 pill...i said !/2 though only because op says "Never done an opiate.."

Now I know...what i didn't before..bl is great.
gracias... merci...mulhalo.....

token

 

[sperry]

The first time I did hydromorphone I only had a very very small amount of experience and tolerance with hydrocodone (in the 5-15mg range) and 1mg was just under enough for me. It depends on the person.

1mg is certainly safe. If the OP wants to play it extra safe, they should start with half a pill (0.5mg), wait 40-50minutes, then see where they are.

0.5-1.0mg is a good starting dosage for a beginner. If I was in charge of everybody's introduction to opiates, it wouldn't be with hydromorphone to be begin with...but since the OP has these...

Thank you very much for that very informative answer! Thank you all for being so kind and concerned about a stranger. I will take all your advice to heart and follow your directions carefully!

 

[tokenname]

Thank you very much for that very informative answer! Thank you all for being so kind and concerned about a stranger. I will take all your advice to heart and follow your directions carefully!

High 5's sperry...
careful..report back plz!

~token

 

[Toosick]

I remember my first Opana .... I was well into Oxy use and someone told me Opana was the best... i got a hold of a stop and I hated them... My tolerance to them built incredibly fast. But like I said I'd been doing opiates for a while and that was right after a fit with some blues ... So I believe my timing may have been off with them... everyone else swears by them

 

[mrflowers00]

my bad i thought you had 2mg pills but since it's just 1mg you should start by snorting 1 pill and wait 30 40min and if you're not where you want to be snort another half or maybe 1 more and wait another 30min and do that until you're either where you want to be or have taken 5mg don't go over 5mg or you could OD

 

[HaZeX]

I'm aware of the risks. I have the least addictive persona type that I know of and I've used many things (cigarettes, cocaine) on a semi-regular basis without getting addicted. I don't use those drugs anymore however, and now my attention has turned to opiates. I'm aware that the addiction potential to dilaudids are much stronger but I'm not that worried.

I just want to touch on this. I thought like you did, infact we probably had the same thought patterns when it comes to getting addicted to substances. As you say you can use smoke a cig and quit, so can I, I can go a week straight and stop for a month 2 months without a problem. Im the same way with cocaine, alcohol, xanax, some more things but I can't remember off the top of my head.

My point is don't underestimate opioids, they will grab you one day; and they won't let go. A few years ago I use to chip just like your doing, having the same mindset as you, and was able to pull off using maybe once a week for a entire year. Then usage increased steadilly(There are some underlying conditions, not going to get into them), as did tolerance until I was blowing an Opana 40 every day. Now Im here today, I cut down my Oxymorphone MG's to about 15-20mgs every night, along with about 180MG of Oxycodone throughout the day.

Just my point is, Stop now. And don't begin with HydroM, start with Hydrocodone if you feel you need something.

 

[sperry]

High 5's sperry...
careful..report back plz!

~token

I will, thanks! And to people still talking about addiction, I'm very aware. I'm not a novice to drug use and I'm aware opiates are very addictive. I have no other source of these pills though and I guarantee I wouldn't be able to find more or any other opiate for that matter either. It's literally just a one time shot. I will save four of them and maybe give the others away or flush em before I even try them, just to be real sure I won't do them again. Really don't need 14 for a one time thing.

I will check back. Might do them tomorrow, starting at .5.