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1990s pills vs 2012 pills

@mark881 tolerance is what you have when you don't get to feel as high as the last time with the same substance and quantity and you need more quantity to get there.
So as you describe it when you did party maybe few times a year, you got the same rush every time- but when you did clubbing 4 weeks in a row (circa 1994 wow!), you found the rush wasn't quite as intense on the way up... so..... that is tolerance my mate
 
I agree that its mostly a quantity difference for the most part. I have to add though that in the 90's in the Texas area there was alot more mda around. You could tell from the longer come up and the telltale everyone appearing to be wearing glasses hallucinations towards the end. Classic mda. :)
 
buffalosoldier said:
@mark881 tolerance is what you have when you don't get to feel as high as the last time with the same substance and quantity and you need more quantity to get there.
So as you describe it when you did party maybe few times a year, you got the same rush every time- but when you did clubbing 4 weeks in a row (circa 1994 wow!), you found the rush wasn't quite as intense on the way up... so..... that is tolerance my mate
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I don't deny it's tolerance, but I'd say coming up was the only real noticeable difference. Slightly less intense, but very similar all night buzz. And also a different kind of enjoyability - I knew what to expect, I looked forward to it more and overall a mildly different experience to non-regular ecstasy taking but equally as good.

Still the pills of today do not hit you anywhere near as hard, your night isn't as intense but you can function the next day instead of 5 days later.

I note also my friends were doing it regular, whole pills + 1 gram speed. After about 3-4 months they started getting really depressed around Wednesday which is the other reason I decided to chill it out. At the time I was trying to lift at the gym and if I did E there was no way I'd train for a week.
 
Blue nikes sound like the shizzle, but it's tough getting any type of pills these days. Seems E and techno clubbing going underground, too many people doing coke.
 
green triangles snowballs and barrels were the bizz,i remember one night i took 6 barrels and tripped out of my head,it was the only time i hallucinated off e but it was an incredible experience,i would imaging todays es are just as strong when you buy off the rite guy.its just there are a lot more dudz around.

es are an amazing drug although i dont take them anymore,as i got strung to the balls on another drugs that i used to take for the come down.
nothing compares to a good e induced love buzz!!!!

....or wasting your night staring at a fire!! or having the most incredible conversation for hours of intense chat that ends all of a sudden when you and your mate completely forget what the fuck you were waffling on about...ah happy memories...
 
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The novelty of ecstasy soon wears off.

I remember the 1st ever batch of Mitsubishi's from Holland back in '98.
Nothing will ever compare to the feeling of a new exciting experience.

I also blame the way it's produced.

Over the years I've been sold MDMA crystal many times. But only once was it pure white, and boy did that stuff have a better effect than anything else. (bar maybe those first mitsubishi's).
 
Cornishman said:
The novelty of ecstasy soon wears off.
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Very valid point. This is often the reason for this frequently discussed topic.

Cornishman said:
I remember the 1st ever batch of Mitsubishi's from Holland back in '98.
Nothing will ever compare to the feeling of a new exciting experience.
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http://www.eve-rave.net/abfahrer/download/eve-rave/ecstasy_pillen_98.pdf

1998 lab report. three mitsi listed here test centre is located in europe. 106mG, 113mG, 102mG MDMA.

http://www.saferparty.ch/tl_files/download/file/Warnungen PDF 2011/MDMA_hoch_NovemberB_2011.pdf

dutch super pills 215.9mG, 201.5mG, 161.5mG 2011. Blue defqons/speakers now are of a similiar dose.

Cornishman said:
I also blame the way it's produced.
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Also very valid point. In my opinion MDMA is not just MDMA. There are a lot of deciding factors on the high you feel. Heavily debated in pills from the 90s thread if you fancie adding your own input.

Cornishman said:
Over the years I've been sold MDMA crystal many times. But only once was it pure white, and boy did that stuff have a better effect than anything else.
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You can make MDMA powder white by cleaning the impurities using acetone. Most clandestine labs dont bother. Light brown / yellowey is acceptable dark brown is sometimes considered a better buzz as it contains more ketone MDP2P which gives it the brown colouring.

Would be interested to know how MDMA powder compares if you clean it with acetone. Unfortunatley due to mental health issues I cant take it anymore.

;-) you can get acetone from hardware stores and it is also used as nail varnish remover.

You need acetone that contains as little H2O (water) as possible. Otherwise the MDMA will dissolve.

If it dissolves all is not lost you then have to recrystalize.

White MDMA powder is also rare as it makes it easier to cut with bunk.

Shame as what you say Cornishman is 100% true. proper MDMA served white indicates chemistry perfection. If they have bothered to make it white they will have likely done everything else properly also.. Premium product LOL.
 
Remember a lot of early 90s rolls were hand made capsules. The first one I ever did was a capsule the size of a horse pill and expensive. Tolerance does kill it but 90s pills were good and expensive here. Used to go for $20-22.50 if u got 20 or more. Then shit got flooded w/ cheap shit that sucked but u could still get good pills. Haven't had one since around 2001 but I was given a rail of molly that turned the blood into toothpaste.
 
Didn't 90s pills make you wanna dance far more than today's? Or that just me? Like we're they as clean as can be or were they commonly mixed with speed or something?

Like when you look at the hardcore raves, yet iv done Clean PFs that although I can dance with em, I feel more like laying down or moving a little than raving my arse off.
 
actaully i do have something to add:-

90s pills up to 98 were mostly all synthed from Saff and 130mg is a very sweetspot for many people.

I still occasionally get the odd pill nowadays that give me the strong empathy, loved up feeling. These super strong 200mg dutch pills even in halfs just lack that lovely hug everyone factor. The MDMA I have access to also lacks this quality. MDMA is not just MDMA and evey batch produces they same effects. The same way as meph has completely changed since the chinese stopped making it and the indian labs are using a different route to get to 4-mmc.
 
I honestly don't even see pressed pills around my area anymore. It's all either crystal or gel caps full of crystal.
 
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