I really hope people will eventually forget about Strassmans postulations about in vivo dmt. There are precursors in the body, but the study searching for natural dmt found leftover dmt as the subjects of the study all smoked dmt previously. The worst facet to this is that people state that study as divine fact when it is just an error ridden study and a very loose hypothesis.
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http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_writings2.shtml - Well, Erowid states that Rick Strassman "has presented evidence that psychoactive tryptamines are produced endigenously by the pineal gland and are related to the metabolism of the pineal hormone melatonin. Clearly much research in this area remains to be done." (Strassman, R.: "The Pineal Gland: Current Evidence for its Role in Consciousness,")
I haven't read that one though..
//blazR
I haven't read that one though..
//blazR
Roger&Me
Bluelight Crew
Excuse me for being blunt, but how does that make any sense whatsoever? That's like saying that antibiotics induce bacterial cell lysis because antibiotics are bacterial cell lysis. Its a nonsensical statement.
I don't know how we could quantify "consciousness expansion", anyway... for all we know, psychedelics don't do that at all, and what does that even mean? Its not like we can hook a person up to an instrument that shoots out a reading that indicates their consciousness is 0.49546% expanded.
derekseyes
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Any change in consciousness also expands consciousness, in my opinion. Why quantify it?
The idea of becoming "one" with anything is delusional, however.
When an ape is one with the universe, are they immune from being killed by a tiger?
Plants live and die just as animals do. Eating a plant is murder of a conscious being who's life is deemed worthless by vegetarian murderers. No karma points are gained for eating a longer evolved sentient life form.
The idea of becoming "one" with anything is delusional, however.
When an ape is one with the universe, are they immune from being killed by a tiger?
Plants live and die just as animals do. Eating a plant is murder of a conscious being who's life is deemed worthless by vegetarian murderers. No karma points are gained for eating a longer evolved sentient life form.
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I think there is a flaw in this "vegetarians/carnivores are murderers because they eat" argument.
Plants have evolved in such a way that one of their main stages in their life cycles requires them to be eaten. Many plants wouldn't propagate if animals didn't eat their fruit and poop seeds out all over the place.
The same can't be said about animals. An animal can live out a complete life cycle without being eaten. If animals adapted to evolutionary pressures in order to be eaten as a crucial step in species propagation, then perhaps you'd be pooping out piglets after eating bacon!
Of course, the life cycles of all life is so intertwined that it may be a falacy to just look at one individual species without considering the whole. For example, the carcass of a slaughtered pig enriches the soil, which helps plants grow, which helps pigs eat, etc.
Plants have evolved in such a way that one of their main stages in their life cycles requires them to be eaten. Many plants wouldn't propagate if animals didn't eat their fruit and poop seeds out all over the place.
The same can't be said about animals. An animal can live out a complete life cycle without being eaten. If animals adapted to evolutionary pressures in order to be eaten as a crucial step in species propagation, then perhaps you'd be pooping out piglets after eating bacon!
Of course, the life cycles of all life is so intertwined that it may be a falacy to just look at one individual species without considering the whole. For example, the carcass of a slaughtered pig enriches the soil, which helps plants grow, which helps pigs eat, etc.
eye_wide_open
Bluelighter
I'd agree.
if anything psychs are more like the keys to unlock the doors to the consciousness you may have already had but didn't know it. It's a fair possibility they may be the cause of certain species gaining more consciousness but certainly is not the root of consciousness itself.
the root of consciousness has something to do with spirits and the universe or multiverse or whatever you guys end up thinking it all comes down to.
the reason psychs make you have out of bodies is because they scare the shit out of your brain since what you are experiencing is so far beyond normal that you think you're really dying and cause reactions of life/death from your brain.
I believe we all really have a spirit as well and we are playing with spirit shenanigans while we mess with out of body experiences so the experiences are rather confusing, understandably.
We are playing with boundaries that aren't fully known, and can vary per individual. everyone's soul and spirit are different because of life interactions, etc.
"everything leaves a mark on your soul" -Bad Religion
A lot of this "ego death" type stuff is parellel to "my life flashed before my eyes" type stuff etc of real near death experiences without drugs. We end up with more "cute" terms here in the land of the hallucination... maybe because we experience them more often and need to find better ways to cope with these experiences.
Humans tend to laugh and poke fun at things they are afraid of to make them more manageable.
A possibly more appropriate term could be "altered consciousness" instead of expanded.
Tuning to other frequencies of your brain.
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cosmic._.ape
Bluelighter
we were discussing this here http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...quot-Entity-Contact-and-the-Illusory-Universe
my take is that we are existence itself, which is basically consciousness itself. therefore, we are eternal and uncreated, as Carl Sagan hypothesis on this short video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34-1W_9BhoU
we -thus is, existence or the totality of what exists -what some might prefer to name "god"- were a single solitary consciousness existing in The Void for all eternity. back then, before the original big-bang, we were the eternal energy of consciousnesses/time, or infinite potential, not yet manifested
...but it feels so lonely in eternity being just one
being one (or the One), the only way for us to enjoy company is by forgetting our true nature of eternal communion by dividing or bifurcating ourselves repeatedly until, in a huge cosmic explosion, we gave birth to what we know as existence: the mind/dream of the goddess/god, whose purpose for the process is one suffused with infinite empathy, aka divine love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE9dEAx5Sgw
as deeper as we divide ourselves, as more feeble the memory of being all One becomes; therefore making the illusion of being separated in a universe of separated objects or beings feel more and more real.
as real this illusion of separation feels, as further we get to know ourselves (or shall i say: "figments of ourselves"), by perceiving and experiencing our disparage behaviours, attitudes, perceptions, dreams, inventions etc -the acts we experience as *living*
the one and only thing that prevents us from directly experiencing ourselves as the Unitary Energy Being that we are is our ego and the beliefs, ideas, and illusions that our ego uses to artificially construct its/our sense of self
in the end, what i'm writing about is liberation from fear. liberation from fear of being oneself. liberation from the fear of reality. liberation from the fear of life and the fear of death. liberation from the fear of succeeding or failing. liberation from trying and relaxing into infinite nature of being, right here, right now
“‘Liberation,’ Dr. Robert began again, ‘the ending of sorrow, ceasing to be what you ignorantly think you are and becoming what you are in fact. For a little while, thanks to the moksha-medicine, you will know what it’s like to be what in fact you are, what in fact you always have been. What a timeless bliss! But, like everything else, this timelessness is transient. Like everything else, it will pass. And when it has passed, what will you do with this experience?’ […]
‘Will you merely enjoy them as you would enjoy an evening at the puppet show, and then go back to business as usual. Or, having glimpsed, will you devote your lives to the business, not at all as usual, of being what you are in fact?’ ("the Island", Aldous Huxley, Ch. 10, p. 208 )
"Between sentient Awareness and insentient matter is an illusion formed in the mind. Moksha is seen as a final release from this illusion when one's worldly conception of self is erased and there takes place a loosening of the shackle of experiential duality, accompanied by the realization of one's own fundamental nature: sat (true being), cit (pure consciousness), and ananda, an experience which is ineffable and beyond sensation (see satcitananda).[9]
Advaita holds that Atman, Brahman, and Paramatman are all one and the same - the formless Nirguna Brahman which is beyond the being/non-being distinction, tangibility, and comprehension."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
"29. For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.
30. This is the creation of the world, that the pain of division is as nothing, and the joy of dissolution all."
(Liber AL vel Legis sub figura CCXX (The Book of the Law), Chapter 1)"
my take is that we are existence itself, which is basically consciousness itself. therefore, we are eternal and uncreated, as Carl Sagan hypothesis on this short video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34-1W_9BhoU
we -thus is, existence or the totality of what exists -what some might prefer to name "god"- were a single solitary consciousness existing in The Void for all eternity. back then, before the original big-bang, we were the eternal energy of consciousnesses/time, or infinite potential, not yet manifested
...but it feels so lonely in eternity being just one
being one (or the One), the only way for us to enjoy company is by forgetting our true nature of eternal communion by dividing or bifurcating ourselves repeatedly until, in a huge cosmic explosion, we gave birth to what we know as existence: the mind/dream of the goddess/god, whose purpose for the process is one suffused with infinite empathy, aka divine love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE9dEAx5Sgw
as deeper as we divide ourselves, as more feeble the memory of being all One becomes; therefore making the illusion of being separated in a universe of separated objects or beings feel more and more real.
as real this illusion of separation feels, as further we get to know ourselves (or shall i say: "figments of ourselves"), by perceiving and experiencing our disparage behaviours, attitudes, perceptions, dreams, inventions etc -the acts we experience as *living*
the one and only thing that prevents us from directly experiencing ourselves as the Unitary Energy Being that we are is our ego and the beliefs, ideas, and illusions that our ego uses to artificially construct its/our sense of self
in the end, what i'm writing about is liberation from fear. liberation from fear of being oneself. liberation from the fear of reality. liberation from the fear of life and the fear of death. liberation from the fear of succeeding or failing. liberation from trying and relaxing into infinite nature of being, right here, right now
“‘Liberation,’ Dr. Robert began again, ‘the ending of sorrow, ceasing to be what you ignorantly think you are and becoming what you are in fact. For a little while, thanks to the moksha-medicine, you will know what it’s like to be what in fact you are, what in fact you always have been. What a timeless bliss! But, like everything else, this timelessness is transient. Like everything else, it will pass. And when it has passed, what will you do with this experience?’ […]
‘Will you merely enjoy them as you would enjoy an evening at the puppet show, and then go back to business as usual. Or, having glimpsed, will you devote your lives to the business, not at all as usual, of being what you are in fact?’ ("the Island", Aldous Huxley, Ch. 10, p. 208 )
"Between sentient Awareness and insentient matter is an illusion formed in the mind. Moksha is seen as a final release from this illusion when one's worldly conception of self is erased and there takes place a loosening of the shackle of experiential duality, accompanied by the realization of one's own fundamental nature: sat (true being), cit (pure consciousness), and ananda, an experience which is ineffable and beyond sensation (see satcitananda).[9]
Advaita holds that Atman, Brahman, and Paramatman are all one and the same - the formless Nirguna Brahman which is beyond the being/non-being distinction, tangibility, and comprehension."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
"29. For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.
30. This is the creation of the world, that the pain of division is as nothing, and the joy of dissolution all."
(Liber AL vel Legis sub figura CCXX (The Book of the Law), Chapter 1)"
derekseyes
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"What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence."
More concise.
I guess it must be "nonsense" to think that if you add a cup of H2O to a cup of water that you have increased the amount of water because H2O is water.
"Abiding in the midst of ignorance, thinking themselves wise and learned, fools go hither and thither, the blind led by the blind. What is beyond earthly life shines not to the childish, or careless, or those deluded by wealth. 'This is the only world - there is no other' they say. And thus they go from death to death." -- Katha Upanishad
eye_wide_open
Bluelighter
so you have told us before...
The problem is when you say it like that nobody understands what the hell it is you are trying to tell them.
lol
If you can explain to me where the hell you get all these made up words...
(that make no sense to a layman like me)....
.....I'm sure it could help us a lot. lol
you start talking like that quote above and you lose me very fast.
In english, please...
We're sick of it being hidden and coded.
quit beating around the bushes. I may never understand Moksha Or whatever that is.
I can tell you my burrito holds the keys but without an explanation you aren't going to understand it and my time was wasted. I don't fee like reading a book of law to explain what I felt on drugs.
there must be a much clearer and understandable way to explain it than what you keep trying to tell us. If there is not, your message may never get across. We aren't all at Carl Sagan's level etc etc.
That stuff you are telling me don't explain in any terms I can understand how and why the pyramids were really built and how I felt my spirit and the spirits of others on drugs.
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I don't know why, but there's no evidence to support the idea that it has anything to do with DMT being released at the point of death, or that this release takes place at all. That's just the musings of some New Mexico academic which are completely unsupported by any concrete observation.
The idea that the DMT present in our brains plays some role in conciousness is interesting, but to say it is conciousness is absurd. And what about the other drugs you mention - they're not naturally present so how can they possibly be necessary to conciousness?
^ This. I don't always agree with your posts, eye_wide_open but at least what you say is parsable. I haven't the foggiest idea what cosmic ape is on about. Also, I'm pretty sure Carl Sagan would agree with us and be a bit irritated at having his name dragged into this.
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cosmic._.ape
Bluelighter
yes sorry -but that happens because i'm not a very good writer, not because i want you feel confused!
this guy, Alan Watts, *is* (or rather, was), a good writer. he explains it in a easier to understand way, i hope -just don't get worked out by his use of the word "god"!
he, clearly, doesn't mean any particular religious god, but just existence itself, thus is, the totality of what exists -to make it easier, just substitute the word "god" for the word "existence" on the following text:
"God also likes to play hide-and-seek, but because there is nothing
outside God, he has no one but himself to play with. But he gets over
this difficulty by pretending that he is not himself. This is his way of
hiding from himself. He pretends that he is you and I and all the people
in the world, all the animals, all the plants, all the rocks, and all the
stars. In this way he has strange and wonderful adventures, some of
which are terrible and frightening. But these are just like bad dreams,
for when he wakes up they will disappear.
"Now when God plays hide and pretends that he is you and I, he does
it so well that it takes him a long time to remember where and how he
hid himself. But that's the whole fun of it—just what he wanted to do.
He doesn't want to find himself too quickly, for that would spoil the
game. That is why it is so difficult for you and me to find out that we
are God in disguise, pretending not to be himself. But when the game
has gone on long enough, all of us will wake up, stop pretending, and
remember that we are all one single Self—the God who is all that there
is and who lives for ever and ever.
"Of course, you must remember that God isn't shaped like a person.
People have skins and there is always something outside our skins. If
there weren't, we wouldn't know the difference between what is inside
and outside our bodies. But God has no skin and no shape because there
isn't any outside to him. [With a sufficiently intelligent child, I illustrate
this with a Möbius strip—a ring of paper tape twisted once in such a
way that it has only one side and one edge.] The inside and the outside
of God are the same. And though I have been talking about God as 'he'
and not 'she,' God isn't a man or a woman. I didn't say 'it' because we
usually say 'it' for things that aren't alive.
"God is the Self of the world, but you can't see God for the same
reason that, without a mirror, you can't see your own eyes, and you
certainly can't bite your own teeth or look inside your head. Your self is
that cleverly hidden because it is God hiding.
"You may ask why God sometimes hides in the form of horrible
people, or pretends to be people who suffer great disease and pain.
Remember, first, that he isn't really doing this to anyone but himself.
Remember, too, that in almost all the stories you enjoy there have to be
bad people as well as good people, for the thrill of the tale is to find out
how the good people will get the better of the bad. It's the same as when
we play cards. At the beginning of the game we shuffle them all into a
mess, which is like the bad things in the world, but the point of the
game is to put the mess into good order, and the one who does it best is
the winner. Then we shuffle the cards once more and play again, and so
it goes with the world."
"The Ultimate Ground of Being" is Paul Tillich's decontaminated
term for "God" and would also do for "the Self of the world" as I put it
in my story for children. But the secret which my story slips over to the
child is that the Ultimate Ground of Being is you. Not, of course, the
everyday you which the Ground is assuming, or "pretending" to be, but
that inmost Self which escapes inspection because it's always the
inspector. This, then, is the taboo of taboos: you're IT!"
you can read the whole text here http://www.wedietorememberwhatwelivetoforget.com/AlanWatts.html
(note: i included two carl sagan videos for two reasons: first to explain our eternal, and therefore uncreated nature; and second to show how the theory of evolution beautifully describes our singular existence)
this guy, Alan Watts, *is* (or rather, was), a good writer. he explains it in a easier to understand way, i hope -just don't get worked out by his use of the word "god"!
he, clearly, doesn't mean any particular religious god, but just existence itself, thus is, the totality of what exists -to make it easier, just substitute the word "god" for the word "existence" on the following text:
"God also likes to play hide-and-seek, but because there is nothing
outside God, he has no one but himself to play with. But he gets over
this difficulty by pretending that he is not himself. This is his way of
hiding from himself. He pretends that he is you and I and all the people
in the world, all the animals, all the plants, all the rocks, and all the
stars. In this way he has strange and wonderful adventures, some of
which are terrible and frightening. But these are just like bad dreams,
for when he wakes up they will disappear.
"Now when God plays hide and pretends that he is you and I, he does
it so well that it takes him a long time to remember where and how he
hid himself. But that's the whole fun of it—just what he wanted to do.
He doesn't want to find himself too quickly, for that would spoil the
game. That is why it is so difficult for you and me to find out that we
are God in disguise, pretending not to be himself. But when the game
has gone on long enough, all of us will wake up, stop pretending, and
remember that we are all one single Self—the God who is all that there
is and who lives for ever and ever.
"Of course, you must remember that God isn't shaped like a person.
People have skins and there is always something outside our skins. If
there weren't, we wouldn't know the difference between what is inside
and outside our bodies. But God has no skin and no shape because there
isn't any outside to him. [With a sufficiently intelligent child, I illustrate
this with a Möbius strip—a ring of paper tape twisted once in such a
way that it has only one side and one edge.] The inside and the outside
of God are the same. And though I have been talking about God as 'he'
and not 'she,' God isn't a man or a woman. I didn't say 'it' because we
usually say 'it' for things that aren't alive.
"God is the Self of the world, but you can't see God for the same
reason that, without a mirror, you can't see your own eyes, and you
certainly can't bite your own teeth or look inside your head. Your self is
that cleverly hidden because it is God hiding.
"You may ask why God sometimes hides in the form of horrible
people, or pretends to be people who suffer great disease and pain.
Remember, first, that he isn't really doing this to anyone but himself.
Remember, too, that in almost all the stories you enjoy there have to be
bad people as well as good people, for the thrill of the tale is to find out
how the good people will get the better of the bad. It's the same as when
we play cards. At the beginning of the game we shuffle them all into a
mess, which is like the bad things in the world, but the point of the
game is to put the mess into good order, and the one who does it best is
the winner. Then we shuffle the cards once more and play again, and so
it goes with the world."
"The Ultimate Ground of Being" is Paul Tillich's decontaminated
term for "God" and would also do for "the Self of the world" as I put it
in my story for children. But the secret which my story slips over to the
child is that the Ultimate Ground of Being is you. Not, of course, the
everyday you which the Ground is assuming, or "pretending" to be, but
that inmost Self which escapes inspection because it's always the
inspector. This, then, is the taboo of taboos: you're IT!"
you can read the whole text here http://www.wedietorememberwhatwelivetoforget.com/AlanWatts.html
(note: i included two carl sagan videos for two reasons: first to explain our eternal, and therefore uncreated nature; and second to show how the theory of evolution beautifully describes our singular existence)
cosmic._.ape
Bluelighter
"There seem to be other things than God, but only because he is
dreaming them up and making them his disguises to play hide-and-seek
with himself. The universe of seemingly separate things is therefore real
only for a while, not eternally real, for it comes and goes as the Self
hides and seeks itself."
(Alan Watts)
"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us a 'universe' a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." (Albert Einstein)
"Furthermore, on seeing through the illusion of the ego, it is
impossible to think of oneself as better than, or superior to, others for
having done so. In every direction there is just the one Self playing its
myriad games of hide-and-seek. Birds are not better than the eggs from
which they have broken. Indeed, it could be said that a bird is one egg's
way of becoming other eggs. Egg is ego, and bird is the liberated Self.
There is a Hindu myth of the Self as a divine swan which laid the egg
from which the world was hatched. Thus I am not even saying that you
ought to break out of your shell. Sometime, somehow, you (the real you,
the Self) will do it anyhow, but it is not impossible that the play of the
Self will be to remain unawakened in most of its human disguises, and
so bring the drama of life on earth to its close in a vast explosion."
(Alan Watts)
dreaming them up and making them his disguises to play hide-and-seek
with himself. The universe of seemingly separate things is therefore real
only for a while, not eternally real, for it comes and goes as the Self
hides and seeks itself."
(Alan Watts)
"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us a 'universe' a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." (Albert Einstein)
"Furthermore, on seeing through the illusion of the ego, it is
impossible to think of oneself as better than, or superior to, others for
having done so. In every direction there is just the one Self playing its
myriad games of hide-and-seek. Birds are not better than the eggs from
which they have broken. Indeed, it could be said that a bird is one egg's
way of becoming other eggs. Egg is ego, and bird is the liberated Self.
There is a Hindu myth of the Self as a divine swan which laid the egg
from which the world was hatched. Thus I am not even saying that you
ought to break out of your shell. Sometime, somehow, you (the real you,
the Self) will do it anyhow, but it is not impossible that the play of the
Self will be to remain unawakened in most of its human disguises, and
so bring the drama of life on earth to its close in a vast explosion."
(Alan Watts)
eye_wide_open
Bluelighter
Let me "see" if I can get this in terms normal kids can understand without government sponsored commentary. lol
Allow me to give it to you guys in terms you can clearly undertand..
In fact, from people you've been hearing for the last decade or more:
"Science has failed the world"
"Spirit goes through all things"
"they're trying to build a prison"
-System of a down
"
I Can Hear The Trumpets Blowing Screaming Out The End Of Time
Look Around And Listen And You'll See Every Sign
The Waters Are Polluted As The Forests Are Cut Down
Bombing And Drilling Deep Below The Ground
Check The Prophecies From Around The World
And Look Around Now As It All Unfurls
Look Into Yourself And See What Goes On
Get A Feeling In Your Heart Of The Right From Wrong
Because The Mother Earth Needs To Be Respected
Been Far From Too Long That She's Been Neglected
Race Against Race, Such A Foolish Waste
It's Like Cutting Off Your Nose To Spite Your Face
And At The End Of The Wars, What Was The Cost
It's Clear That The Earth Was The One Who Lost
We Are One With Her As She Is One With Us
It's Unreal How She Is Treated So Unjust
As Our Planet Grows Smaller Each And Every Day
Everyone Affecting Everyone In Every Way
We're All Citizens Of The World Community
All Here Together And We're Searching For Unity
Over The Years, I've Grown And Changed So Much
Things I Know Now Years Ago, I Couldn't Touch
There Are Things I've Done That I Wouldn't Do Again
But I'm Glad That I Did 'Cause I've Learned From Them
I Just Try To Stay Present Right Here, Right Now
No Worries, No Fears And Without Any Doubts"
"Intergalactic planetary, another dimension, another dimension"
"We're all connected like a lego set"
-Beastie Boys
"Someday someone somewhere somehow
Is going to make you understand
These words will drill into your head
You undergo the process then
You will do anything they say
They will have power over you
You will not question their authority
You know what they can do
(chorus)
I shake my head, I don't know what to say
I see my chance to turn and walk away
I will not be a part of this romance
I just can't take that chance
Find more similar lyrics on http://mp3lyrics.com/lodBecause I see my opportunity to shout
The last goodbye
I bet you never did expect
To have a big important name
They all will have exquisite taste
But everyone will look the same
You will be quickly photographed
You will be shot from every side
They'll teach you what you need to learn
Then they will take you for a ride"
- Agent Orange
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701&sz=all&va=agent+orange
"Television rules the nation"
-Daft Punk
Hmmm, you guys notice the pyramid theme with these people?
"We gotta take the power back"
"know your enemy"
"Freedom? Yeah right!"
-Rage against the machine
"We don't need no education,
we don't need no thought control"
hey what do you guys know there's that pyramid again lol
more pyramids?!
hmmm kinda makes you think... doesn't it?
c'mon clues are everywhere.
Time to wake up. lol
Here how about this.
pyramids on mars too? Oh you didn't know? lol
Wonder why that is... maybe because you have your blinders on and
been robbed of your "sight".
Chew on them apples. lol
Enjoy
-EWO
Allow me to give it to you guys in terms you can clearly undertand..
In fact, from people you've been hearing for the last decade or more:
"Science has failed the world"
"Spirit goes through all things"
"they're trying to build a prison"
-System of a down
"
I Can Hear The Trumpets Blowing Screaming Out The End Of Time
Look Around And Listen And You'll See Every Sign
The Waters Are Polluted As The Forests Are Cut Down
Bombing And Drilling Deep Below The Ground
Check The Prophecies From Around The World
And Look Around Now As It All Unfurls
Look Into Yourself And See What Goes On
Get A Feeling In Your Heart Of The Right From Wrong
Because The Mother Earth Needs To Be Respected
Been Far From Too Long That She's Been Neglected
Race Against Race, Such A Foolish Waste
It's Like Cutting Off Your Nose To Spite Your Face
And At The End Of The Wars, What Was The Cost
It's Clear That The Earth Was The One Who Lost
We Are One With Her As She Is One With Us
It's Unreal How She Is Treated So Unjust
As Our Planet Grows Smaller Each And Every Day
Everyone Affecting Everyone In Every Way
We're All Citizens Of The World Community
All Here Together And We're Searching For Unity
Over The Years, I've Grown And Changed So Much
Things I Know Now Years Ago, I Couldn't Touch
There Are Things I've Done That I Wouldn't Do Again
But I'm Glad That I Did 'Cause I've Learned From Them
I Just Try To Stay Present Right Here, Right Now
No Worries, No Fears And Without Any Doubts"
"Intergalactic planetary, another dimension, another dimension"
"We're all connected like a lego set"
-Beastie Boys
"Someday someone somewhere somehow
Is going to make you understand
These words will drill into your head
You undergo the process then
You will do anything they say
They will have power over you
You will not question their authority
You know what they can do
(chorus)
I shake my head, I don't know what to say
I see my chance to turn and walk away
I will not be a part of this romance
I just can't take that chance
Find more similar lyrics on http://mp3lyrics.com/lodBecause I see my opportunity to shout
The last goodbye
I bet you never did expect
To have a big important name
They all will have exquisite taste
But everyone will look the same
You will be quickly photographed
You will be shot from every side
They'll teach you what you need to learn
Then they will take you for a ride"
- Agent Orange
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701&sz=all&va=agent+orange
"Television rules the nation"
-Daft Punk
Hmmm, you guys notice the pyramid theme with these people?
"We gotta take the power back"
"know your enemy"
"Freedom? Yeah right!"
-Rage against the machine
"We don't need no education,
we don't need no thought control"
hey what do you guys know there's that pyramid again lol
more pyramids?!
hmmm kinda makes you think... doesn't it?
c'mon clues are everywhere.
Time to wake up. lol
Here how about this.
pyramids on mars too? Oh you didn't know? lol
Wonder why that is... maybe because you have your blinders on and
been robbed of your "sight".
Chew on them apples. lol
Enjoy
-EWO
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TheAppleCore
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L.O.L.! :D Thanks, Roger, that made my hour. I totally agree with the point you're making as well.
justinsayno
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off topic but....
pyramids ?
hmm really?
Are pryamids / triangles more common in graphic design that circles or squares ? No, you just notice them because you're looking for them.
The world is not controlled by lizards / aliens or fee masons. The rich look after the rich yes, but there is no master plan; you're giving the powers that be too much credit.
As for the masons, they're actually charitable and open minded ppl or just bussinessmen looking for a few hours away from thier wives.
One of my friend's children was suffering badly from asthma and related breathing difficulties, he wasnt able to afford the equipment needed to help her [ i forget exactly what it was now ] He mentioned it to his boss, his boss happened to be a mason. He boss invited him out for lunch that day and he was presented with the equipment that increased his daughter's quaility of life ten fold.
When they first formed what held them together was a belief that science was worth more than the church. Not a bad thing IMO.
Now please dont spam the thread with links or images like a cyberjahova's witness because the chances are i will have already seen them.
just sayin is all.
As for meat: meat is not food. Flesh gets its [ alleged ] nutritional value from the plants animals have eaten.
The human race no longer needs to eat animals, it produces waste, uses water and makes innocent beings suffer and live miserable lives...not good karma for anyone involved
IMO
pyramids ?
hmm really?
Are pryamids / triangles more common in graphic design that circles or squares ? No, you just notice them because you're looking for them.
The world is not controlled by lizards / aliens or fee masons. The rich look after the rich yes, but there is no master plan; you're giving the powers that be too much credit.
As for the masons, they're actually charitable and open minded ppl or just bussinessmen looking for a few hours away from thier wives.
One of my friend's children was suffering badly from asthma and related breathing difficulties, he wasnt able to afford the equipment needed to help her [ i forget exactly what it was now ] He mentioned it to his boss, his boss happened to be a mason. He boss invited him out for lunch that day and he was presented with the equipment that increased his daughter's quaility of life ten fold.
When they first formed what held them together was a belief that science was worth more than the church. Not a bad thing IMO.
Now please dont spam the thread with links or images like a cyberjahova's witness because the chances are i will have already seen them.
just sayin is all.
As for meat: meat is not food. Flesh gets its [ alleged ] nutritional value from the plants animals have eaten.
The human race no longer needs to eat animals, it produces waste, uses water and makes innocent beings suffer and live miserable lives...not good karma for anyone involved
IMO
Misfit Chick
Bluelighter
survival and war anyone?
cosmic._.ape
Bluelighter
ok i'll try with a song by this hugely popular Malasyan group called "The Mystical Musketeers"
*We Die To Remember What We Live To Forget*
the other day my dearest
a mushroom talked to me
and though no words were spoken
what it said has set me free
what the mushroom has told me
is that we are the universe
dividing our consciousness
to experience ourselves
[chorus]
i shall not hear the shadows
i shall not feel the rain;
i shall not hear the nightingale
sing on, as if in pain
and dreaming through this twilight
that does not rise nor set,
haply i may remember
and haply i may forget
so when i dead my dearest
sing no sad songs for me
plat thou no roses at my head
nor shady cypress tree
be the green grass above me
with showers and dewdrops wet
and if thou wilt, remember
and if thou wilt, forget
[chorus]
i shall no fear the darkness
i shall not feel the pain
i shall not let the greediness
turn me into a slave
travelling through this tough life
i learned to accepts my fate
when die is to remember
what we forget at birth
*We Die To Remember What We Live To Forget*
the other day my dearest
a mushroom talked to me
and though no words were spoken
what it said has set me free
what the mushroom has told me
is that we are the universe
dividing our consciousness
to experience ourselves
[chorus]
i shall not hear the shadows
i shall not feel the rain;
i shall not hear the nightingale
sing on, as if in pain
and dreaming through this twilight
that does not rise nor set,
haply i may remember
and haply i may forget
so when i dead my dearest
sing no sad songs for me
plat thou no roses at my head
nor shady cypress tree
be the green grass above me
with showers and dewdrops wet
and if thou wilt, remember
and if thou wilt, forget
[chorus]
i shall no fear the darkness
i shall not feel the pain
i shall not let the greediness
turn me into a slave
travelling through this tough life
i learned to accepts my fate
when die is to remember
what we forget at birth
HeavyHanded
Bluelighter
To expand on your Beasties quote - We're all connected like a lego set, one equals one together like a croquette, whether he have or have not yet met, well it ain't no thing and it ain't no sweat.
I always liked that song too.
I always liked that song too.
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