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I almost passed out last night after enough beer(s) with Lyrica - exactly the thing I warned about when combining pregabalin, alcohol and benzos. Especially alcohol and Lyrica potentiate each other very much and this combination can be unpredictable if you don't know exactly how your body reacts. I pushed my limits a bit with the alcohol, 1200 mg Lyrica by itself is no problem for me. I got very nauseated after 3 pints and had to force myself to throw up - it definitely helped. However I just struggled to keep myself awake and after awhile I just thought, oh well, I can just go to sleep as well. I don't know if I fell asleep or passed out - but I definitely had good night's sleep :D I always get very deep sleep with Lyrica, without waking up every other hour as I always do normally.

I don't even really know why, but I got the idea of taking some MDAI today. One reason is that I avoid (strong) psychs now when there's a bigger risk for anxiety/panic due to my benzo withdrawal. Otherwise I'd have chosen a psychedelic, I'm not a fan of MDAI (or even MDMA for that matter) - it's just too fuzzy and cozy, not "wild" like psychedelics that really make me feel alive. But, I'm not sure I'm going to take any psych as long as I'm on benzo WD. Maybe 2C-C or some very easy-going tryptamine if I feel like I'm in the right mood. More than the physical symptoms I'm afraid of the rebound symptoms benzo WD can have - in my case it would be panic attacks and extremely strong anxiety all the time. I really hope there won't be any rebound symptoms. The physical symptoms are quite easy to manage and some propranolol and a small dose of Lyrica keeps them under control if necessary.

200 mg MDAI feels quite nice. Nice, but that's about it. I know many would think it's not a smart idea to take a potent serotonin releaser when I still feel my mind is messed up a bit after quitting escitalopram. But, I feel like my serotonin levels are messed up already so what the hell...And it's already 1,5 months since I quit escitalopram. I'll take some 5-HTP afterwards even though I've never got any comedown from MDAI - in fact I usually feel better than normally the following day(s). I'll take a larger dose of noopept than I normally would if my mind gets too cloudy. It should help - 30 mg noopept while on 90 mg MXE made me feel almost sober (the only thing left was the bodyload from MXE, and it was then I realized how speedy MXE actually is).

Gonna order some dmt, 5meo-dmt, 5meo-dalt, and 5meo-mipt within a few week; also getting some oil burners so I can smoke them properly. I haven't tried any of them yet but they have been on my list for ages and I read up allot about them over the years. My mg scale arived today so I will be able to dose correctly without having to worry about acidently taking too much.

Wait, wat? Order DMT?

I used that have this fiercely. I still have it but not quite as bad. It's like coming back into the world and your brain realizes how shitty it feels. :\

I totally forgot to comment this. I'm interested since you are one of the few people I've ever heard mentioning this (I googled it and only found a few people have got this reaction - especially from escitalopram). Was your anxiety during waking up the result of some medication (SSRI in particular), or did you just get it without any medication? I'm interested to know what could be behind this phenomenon. It feel like my brain is throwing all its stores of neurotransmitters out at once - but why only when I wake up in the morning? And why not when I wake up during night (which happens just about every other hour)? It's like my brain knows it's soon time to wake up and prepares to bombard me with fierce anxiety and fear - how it does it when I sleep is something I don't understand. Well, at least it has the effect of me getting up from the bed quickly - if I stay in the bed it prolongs the symptoms. If I jump out of bed the symptoms are almost totally gone after a few minutes. The really strange thing is my heart rate is normal although I have this intense feeling of anxiety and fear.

@TAC: I know I already asked about this before and if you've already experienced and commented about it here pardon me, I haven't been very active here lately. Have you tried 4-HO-MET already, and if yes what's your verdict? I'm interested since you sometimes have quite different reactions to certain compounds than I do (in particular DPT and 4-HO-MiPT). Our very different experiences with DPT could be explained with our differnt ROA though - I've only insufflated it and have had to go through the quite (sometimes very) unpleasurable effects for 4-5 hours (and the lingering effects that continue for quite many hours after that).

DPT is the only compound that induces almost psychosis-like symptoms in me. And I know for certain my brain is very hardy against psychoses; it has been bombarded with different meds and drugs for over 12 years and I've had a total mental breakdown after (ab)using copious amounts of MDMA 8 years ago which resulted in panic disorder, depression, GOD and OCD (I got all these diagnoses at once, fortunately I've overcome the first two totally). But I've never had any reaction that even remotely would be psychotic. Not even my strongest trip to date (1100 mg 25C-NBOme + 100 mg MXE + 100 mg 4-HO-DPT) was psychotic, though I did leave my physical body for quite a few hours. Only DPT seems to change my personality in such a way that if I would take a larger dose I would not be able to distinguish it from the real me. I would actually think I'm an old grandmother, a little girl or a chimpanzee - and I'm not kidding here, DPT has actually transformed my personality into those - I've just been able to be aware that those are induced by DPT and not the real me. I'm going to freebase most of my DPT and vape it and see if I react differently. Now's not the right time for such intense trips but in due time.
 
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stimulants+psyches are where its at... great idea on speed that it'd be really funny to...
That's how it goes, everyone knows, but who knows why?
;)
 
I just had a breakthrough on MXE listening to Shpongle... FREAKING M-Holing!!!!!!

Did you enjoy it?

The few times I've been in the M-hole have been quite dark and not especially pleasurable. Sure, I've witnessed some very strange things there. I've been split into several dimensions and been able to move in and out of those different dimensions, been at many places at once (I've travelled to places I've been before in my life), become a mirror (I could look at myself upside down, from behind, from all angles), have had entity contact with aliens etc. But all those experiences have been so bizarre that they have been impossible to integrate; basically they just felt like a dream after the trip.

Oh, and with regards to combining stimulants and psychedelics. Even if you're not prone to psychoses combining stims with psychs can trigger them without any pre-existing condition. Stims even on their own are probably the worst drugs when it comes to psychoses; the massive amount of dopamine they release is the main contributing factor (too much dopamine is closely linked with psychosis, too little closely linked with e.g. Alzheimers desease and serious memory deficit), although combined with being awake for days without enough fluids and nutrition heightens the risk even more. Putting psychedelics into the equation is quite a recipe for a disaster. Not only are stims IMO the polar opposite to psychs when it comes to their effect on the ego; stims boost your ego while psychs softens and with higher doses "remove" your ego. Taking stims with psychs would also greatly increase the risk for serious anxiety/panic attacks. I really fail to see how anyone enjoys this combination but each to their own I guess.
 
adding a 2C to a dissociative trip can turn a dud into a rocket ride

the pieces don't always fall together right, but when they do there's nothing crazier than a dissociative+a psychedelic
I really love mxe+2c-e it is a very enjoyable smooth combo they synch together so perfectly and put my mind in such a state of bliss. I really want to do 2c-e + ketamine and see how it compares.
someday soon i'm gonna do a 200mg oral dose. its been awhile since i went big... like 3-4months
How do you like orral mxe compared to nasal. In allot of ways I like orral better because the effects make it feel more dissasociating and opiate like due to it being metabolized differnt.
 
i've pretty much never gotten CEV's from MXE alone

I have recently discovered that I can get *breathtaking* CEVs from MXE -- superior to those seen on most classical psychedelics -- but I need to apply a special dosing technique. If I take a very high dose of MXE with no tolerance, and skyrocket into intense dissociation from cold sobriety, then body load, vertigo, nausea, and other negative side effects will tend to overwhelm the trip. However, if I take, say, a medium-strong dose of MXE (in my case ~50-60 mg), wait until the comedown, and then dive back into the dissociative abyss, this time aiming for a full "M-hole", I tend to get a very clean and blissful trip.

I suspect that this is simply an effect of tolerance. Unlike most other psychoactive drugs, tolerance to MXE seems to have a positive effect, wherein the body becomes tolerant to negative effects more quickly than it becomes tolerant to positive effects, tilting the quality of the trip in the positive direction.

I love the endless variety of hallucinogenic phenomena you can experience on an M-hole. On classical psychedelics, the visuals can be highly colorful and intricate, but they all seem to revolve around a certain overarching theme, which usually involves geometric patterning, fractals, and perhaps something like eyes or faces. MXE visuals seem more various, and unpredictable. Some of the most memorable examples include a three-dimensional, animated "carpet", that danced to the music I heard; and a giant white robot. :D

the pieces don't always fall together right, but when they do there's nothing crazier than a dissociative+a psychedelic

I was rather enjoying some 4-AcO-DMT and MXE the other day. Milk and cookies, they went together like. :D (Too bad I'm lactose intolerant. :( )

@TAC: I know I already asked about this before and if you've already experienced and commented about it here pardon me, I haven't been very active here lately. Have you tried 4-HO-MET already, and if yes what's your verdict? I'm interested since you sometimes have quite different reactions to certain compounds than I do (in particular DPT and 4-HO-MiPT).

Not yet. :) Sometime soon, though. I've got a 250 mg bag, just haven't opened it up. I'm very curious about the visual qualities of 4-HO-MET.

I just had a breakthrough on MXE listening to Shpongle... FREAKING M-Holing!!!!!!

Yes. Yes. Yes. Shpongle on an M-hole for me was something to be remembered for a lifetime.
 
How do you like orral mxe compared to nasal. In allot of ways I like orral better because the effects make it feel more dissasociating and opiate like due to it being metabolized differnt.

i've never actually taken it any way other than oral heh

i should probably rail a line someday :)

i have an aversion to snorting things.... really messed up my sinuses when i was younger from snorting a lot of pharms

i hear MXE is really gentle on the sinuses though
 
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MXE is extremely gentle on the sinuses, you can't even feel it enter your nasal cavity honestly. I'm surprised you of all people have yet to try dosing intranasally
 
haha nate :) yeah i've slowed down lol...

i mentioned above about how i fucked up my sinuses awhile ago... well it wasn't just my sinuses, i feel like snorting pharms was what caused my front incisor to get an abcess

that shit sucked, was in pain for months til i finally could see the doc.
 
Hi guys, wow MXE is one hell of a drug. I spent hours since the peak being hyper conscious of this continual flux of memories, faint CEV's, insights, bodily sensations.. drifting, drifting and wondering what am I, this self-aware consciousness. If my body died would I notice? Or would i just spend a few eons as star dust drifting across space.. no purpose, just drifting...

Cyanoide, I did enjoy it. You're experiences sound stronger to mine but I also have the experience now of it just being some vague notion of an amazing altered state. For me it was enjoyable, my sense of myself being stretched and morphed by the music and being thrilled at being alive and experiencing this sort of roller-coaster ride that the combo of Shpongle and MXE were taking me on. Thinking about it now though i wonder whether i really did m-hole or I just got very close.. I could bring myself back to my surroundings by just opening my eyes. I railed it this time, but will try again next weekend with a bombed dose.

TheAppleCore, yeah the music was just made for an exhilarating roller coaster ride.. Pure Genius! I think everyone should be treated to this kind of experience at least once in their life. I feel all cleansed and sparkly!

yeah yeah honeymoon phase i know. Going to try and leave it to a weekly treat at most!
 
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