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12th Issue Heroin Discussion v. livin' on the run for so long I gotta go collect
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verso
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Damnit! Isn't the summer supposed to be prime time for copping? Because I've been having shit luck lately...
Yesterday I went to see the guy that our main guy has working for him, and he got into the car and was like, "These are $X" (where X represents an inflated price I haven't payed since getting my own dealers' numbers and cutting out the middlemen.) I was like, "They're what?" "Yeah, he (main guy) didn't tell you that?" Uh... NO?
The bags are bigger and better than the bags he had before, and he still has the other bags at the usual price, but it just sucks because these bags, even though they're bigger and better, well... they should be the same price as the other bags! I know how much those bags go for as I've picked them up before at the usual price, so what must be happening is that he must be paying retail and not wholesale; but that's not my problem, dude... you're supposed to negotiate, buy in quantity, and do your thing... not hike up the price!
Basically he has two types of bags right now, and this is what I make of the whole thing: He has NY bags and NJ bags. The bigger and better bags are the NY bags, and the smaller bags with 25, 30mg in them are the NJ bags. The NJ bags he sells at the usual price, and the NY bags he sells at the inflated price. But, it shouldn't be like that because even those NY bags go for the usual price around here.
I don't know if his getting robbed just recently has anything to do with it at all, but I'm not paying that price, man; as much as I may love this guy, and he's our main guy, no... I'm not paying that. lol
I'm surprised, really, because he's a pretty legit dealer and I know that he buys in some serious weight. I don't want to feel like I'm getting middled again by paying that inflated price.
Well I just heard what happened, and I'll tell you right now that it wouldn't have went down if I was there. Get this, the same kid that set me up years ago was the one that set everyone up the other day. Reason 1 why it wouldn't have happened it because I probably would have gone over to him and beat his ass. Reason 2: even if I didn't beat his ass I would have called off the deal once I saw he was at the meeting spot waiting to cop too.
The story goes that my friend was going to the meet, and once he got there he saw the kid that ripped me off there. He called up the dealer and warned him about the kid being a snitch, and the dealer just shrugged it off, probably since the snitch is a legit junkie, so people don't expect a user like that to snitch. So the dealer rolled through and served my friend, then several cop cars pulled up on them, and the snitch just drove off like nothing happened.
When I got busted there wasn't full proof that the kid snitched, but there was definitely a suspicion, and when word got around town everybody stopped serving the kid. There was also a case in which he snitched before that (I didn't find out until after) but it was a pretty serious case and he just gave up the name of the driver which they would have found out anyway. So now with this most recent bust, there is no doubt that he's a certified snitch. It's happened way too many times for it to be a coincidence.
jones-in_J
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verso
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LOL we just got back from seeing our guy. This girl who we've only just recently befriended wanted to go for a ride to talk to us about her relationship troubles, and she must have been feeling generous because, despite being a heroin addict who hasn't used in a number of years, well... she gave us some money to pick up bags with.
I thought that we'd be put in a tough spot where she asks for a bag or whatever. In fact, she had texted us yesterday asking if we could all go for a ride and she'd treat us to bags because she wanted some too; but, having something of a conscious, I told her no.
But anyway, we picked her up and picked up bags tonight using the money she gave us, and she didn't ask us for one and showed no real curiosity in the bags at all, surprisingly enough. And of course we waited until we dropped her back home before digging in.
When I got into the car with my guy, I asked about the bags costing different prices, explaining to him that I wasn't sure which ones I wanted... he was like, "nah, man, I said 'fuck it' and they're all $X now..." (where $X represents the usual price). So of course that was music to my ears, and I took a sampling of all the different bags he has right now, and they're all really, really good.
I'm happy, man, maybe this summer will be all right after all.
EDIT: And I'm definitely nodding, nodding hard... I haven't caught a nod like this in a while.Last edited:
Yea, I'm not going in the car to get dope anymore. Most of my friends don't do any drugs actually, and I've only got a few friends that I get high with. Basically living a double life, but I'm a lot less active in 'the game' these days, so other than the fact that I get high, I'm not as involved in the world of drugs than I used to be.
StrongAsaOxy
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Exactly right my friend.
patricknyc28
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Hey Tommy where abouts in NY are you? Upstate?
LSDMDMA&
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Yo dudes, i've heard when you get diesel sticking to the bag its because its hot out, is that true?
the shit around here as of lately, has been this tan shit, and little bits will stick to the inside of the bag, shit's slightly chunky/not a real real fine powder, when the shit used to (when i first started buying a month or so ago probably) be this offwhiteish fine powder.
FWIW i think the dope hsa been getting better, or at least better than at first when i started buying.
The only real proper high grade fire ass dope i've ever had was chunky offwhite powder from baltimore, a 20 of raw i got off a homeless guy (first time i ever got/did dope).
And you guys ever notice that some bags will like feel different in your nose when you blow em? Lately the shit seems to have a different cut in it or something cuase it like smells/feels different when i sniff it. Like you know when you snort something you can like...smell it as its going up? thats what i mena by smelling it, it doesn't have a smell when i chop it out/when i'm opening bags. Still has the normal tingle in ya nostril that you get when you blow dope though.Humidity/moisture definitely turns dope a little browner, and depending on how much, it can cause it to stick to the bags. There's also some dope that I describe as "platey" which comes out of the bags as a flat piece of dope, but breaks up easily with a card or razor. I only get sticky dope that sticks to bags a few times a year, usually in August.
As for the taste, well of course the cut will effect the taste of the dope, but that doesn't necessarily tell you anything about the quality of the dope. They could be using a little cut that tastes strong, or a lot that tastes like barely anything. I do find that a little burn in my nostrils after snorting will usually indicate good quality dope, but not all the time.
Some of the regulars here know what part of NY I'm from, but I'm trying to chill with mentioning it because then I have to limit what I say to avoid detection. I know some cops that come on here, so I wouldn't want them to figure out who I am. It's not like I deal or anything, but better safe than sorry. Qqqqq
jones-in_J
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Reallyy????
SM0K3Y
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LSDMDMA&10671597 said:
This quote from tommy sums it up exactly-
Also realize that the taste of dope could come from the manufacturing process. A lot of times it will smell/taste like vitamins (if you dont know the smell of vitamins then you won't understand) its that bitter musky type scent. It doesn't smell like anything else so I really can't compare it.
Also the fact that its getting brown and/or sticky it's just like tommy said - humidity & moisture. I've had bags that I couldn't snort since they got so moist inside of the bag. Literally it was totally all stuck to the bag and I had to shoot it rather than snort. The usual taste you get from dope though is the vitamin taste and the other is remnant (old, still remaining) particulate matter from the processing and manufacturing of the dope.
Depending on how it was manufactured, it could have gone through the cleaning process twice, or it could have gone through 20 times. The more times it was cleaned usually the lighter the color. Raw opium can be any color from white to black, brown to beige, sand colored to a reddish auburn. This all effects the color of the dope you get way down the line that is going up your nose.
My guy used to have different kinds of dope too, but never charged different prices. So you're telling me he charges a different price per bag? I mean he had to kind of switch up deals, some buns were 14, some were 12 (or 11) but never actually changed the price of the bag on me.
Also, I wanted to see what you guys thought of this situation since I've never paid middle man tax but I am now-
I have a friend that is charging me middle man tax to go get bags. He has been telling me there is 11 in a bundle when there is 12, plus asking for bags on top of that to go out and cop (usually 2 + the extra 1 from each bundle, I usually grab 3) so he is getting 5 bags every time. I ended up chewing him out for it the other day. Long story short he switched phones and wrote down all his #'s and I made sure that I took pictures of the list and got both his dealer and his dealers higher up. I been contemplating on cutting him out, but I'm not sure how his dealer would feel. Thing is, is that he usually only gets like 5 bags so if I texted his dealer and told him I'm the reason why he is spending hundreds of dollars I'm sure he'd be happy he's still getting the money, but I don't want to step on the dealers toes ya know? I'm going to cop today, just seein if you guys think I should still let him play middleman or cut him out...
patricknyc28
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Thats cool Tommy im in Brighton Beach
SM0K3Y- I would try my luck calling the dealers since your "friend" likes to fuck you taxin you that much.Last edited:
Yea, but they were just checking it out, not trying to make busts from it, although that does happen. I was actually hanging out with a cop and he busted out his smartphone and was lurking on BL, joking around about some of the names of threads. I would be lying if I said that I wasn't a bit worried about him finding out who I was on here.
Yea, they may repeat the final step in refining the dope to clean it up more making it whiter, but it doesn't affect the purity all that much.
If dope is too sticky to break into lines to snort, I just make a solution from it and use and oral syringe (well I just use a regular syringe with the needle broken off) to put a few dope into each nostril at a time, and it works just fine.
As for your middleman situation, I would only risk cutting him out if you have more connects incase in blows up in your face and they both don't want to deal with you anymore. Speaking of the middleman bs, I don't know if I mentioned this, but last week my friend wanted me to get him some subs. I told my source how many, and that I was charging him the same as I was getting them for from her, and she was telling me that I should charge more so I make something on the deal. I told her that's not how I operate with this person, and it was a favor I was doing. So after I got them for him, she ended up giving me 2 subs since she knew I wasn't making anything on the deal, and he gave me two 30mg roxis since he knew I was charging him the same as I got them for. So instead of charging extra for the subs and making a few bucks off my friend, I just did it as a favor and ended up making off pretty well for being straight with everyone. That's yet another reason why I don't tax people or get big into middlemanning. Getting 2 subs and 2 roxis for free was a lot more than I would have gotten from charging a tax on the subs.
jones-in_J
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Why would you hang out with a cop if youre a drug user lol
Related Reading.
I get high still, but I'm got really big into the scene. Other than when I get dope dropped off once or twice a week, I really don't involve myself with the usual druggie stuff that I used to. I don't know everyone else that gets high like I used to know back when I was more involved with it, and other than the 2 or 3 people that I talk to that get high, most of my friends don't do any drugs. When I was younger I knew everyone else in my town that used, and I would cop with them a lot and hang out talking about drugs and shit, but I guess I grew out of it.
verso
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I was in the same position that you were in, and here's my advice to you: call up his dealer, and cut him out.
I had to do the same thing, and once I did it, man, I wished that I had done it a lot sooner. I mean, his dealer was kind of sketched out and skeptical at first, but I reassured him over the phone that he'd recognize my car once he saw it, as I'm the one who's always giving his guy (middleman) a ride; so, sure enough, he said "come on," and that's how I got him.
I've done it more than once, too. I don't negotiate with middlemen, and that's that.
But as for the dope sticking to the bags, yeah, that's common, and I hate it when that happens. We'll probably pick up some dope tonight, and now I'm thinking that, speak of the devil, we'll probably end up with some sticky dope lol I hope not
LSDMDMA&
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Yeah, its that "platey" shit that you mentioned tommy.
I'll open a bag and some of it will fall out in these little chunks, and they'll chop back down to powder fine (but i dont generally bother chopping it out really..)
I think i get what ya mean by vitamin scent, and yeah all the dope i've ever had has had that slight burn in your nostril, like not a burn like meth or 2Cx but a tingling when it goes up ya nose.
Although strangely, most of the dope i've had so far all seems to have had about the same burn, even the first dope i ever did, and that shit wasn't the local shit i get now, that shit was bmore raw.
Round here the bags are small but i dont think the actual purity itself is too bad, if i had to guess. bags are just mad small so you need a couple, one bag is one line round hurr. Least i remember the bmore shit i had, that shit i got way way more powder than $20 would get you here, and the bmore shit was way stronger. Bmore shit $20 worth was a few fat lines worth, here $20 will barely do much to me most of the time and i dont have much of a tolerance...even when i first started 20 was the minimum i'd do.
Caught a NICE ass nod off of just 2 the other night though, got 2 then upon doing them i was liek "yo deez is way way better than usual, i'm noddin decent" so i went and got another an hour later, after that i was out real nice.
I blew the 3rd one that night right outside where i got it, in ym car, but i know a little bit was stickin to the stamp right, so i said i'm not gonna sit here for 5 minutes trying to get that tiny spec of dope off the bag, on the way home i see a cop and kinda start to make an illegal lef turn and end up stopping way in front of the line, so i nom'd the empty/mostly empty bag out of paranoia that "they're gonna pull you over maan, and you've got all your shit out". Although to be fair i shouldn't have been driving, i was pretty fucked up, holdin back the nod while i was drivin.
alteknj
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I'm contemplating whether or not cops track users through their IP and see what they are up to. Especially in a small city with a bored narcotics squad. I am still trying to figure out how the fuck the police popped me my last time. I mean the first few times was from plain out open air copping and one involved a big investigation into a guy I was going to. But this last time, they caught me in a fucking parking lot of a super market like 11 AM. I had copped like 20 mins earlier, but 1) this wasn't open air. Strictly over the phone and I know they weren't watching the kid I was buying off of because they questioned me about it. 2) I only mess with like a handful of people sparingly here when I am not in Jersey (This is a small city right over the NJ border in PA). 3) It was plainclothes narcotics officers and they really only got lucky finding my last bag and a rig. I was on state parole at the time, so the only ways I can see them tailing me is a) getting my info from state parole and just randomly picking me to see what I was up to b) someone snitched on me, but why would the cops flip someone else to catch another addict? I wasn't dealing. c) Got my info off here or some other Opio-type site. I asked them how they caught me when they were booking me and they just said I looked suspicious going in the supermarket and coming out with a water. Well, why the fuck is a car full of plain clothes narcotics cops doing in a suburban, middle class shopping center doing drug surveillance? It just doesn't make sense to me. I wouldn't be surprised if they got my info off the internet.- Status
