12th Issue Heroin Discussion v. livin' on the run for so long I gotta go collect

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Well I guess out guy has been doing us a favor. He's been sort of dodging us whenever we ask for a front, and there's one of two reasons for this: 1.) He doesn't want to help us out. 2.) He legitimately hasn't been carrying very much stuff on him. (A lot of people have been getting popped, like... there was a huge bust of over 100+ ... and he's been sending people to the guys he has working for him.)

Anyway... I'm on hour... oh god, what is it now? 60...
 
^ You should be out of the woods soon. Sleeping on night 3 is usually the worst for me, but then gets easier after that. My first few kicks took forever to start. It would take 3 days before I even felt any withdrawal, and it would peak by day 5. Now it takes two days less to start, peak, and be over.
 
shit my w/d s are prob the worst day 3 and 4 and even 5 and 6 can still be pretty uncomfortable. although i have not puked the last 4 + times i have withdraw so that is awesome! i have a feeling i will be in withdrawal soon as i have no money right now and only my sopranos season dvds and godfather box set to pawn. i would like to be clean by the end of the month so i can go see phish in indi and wisconsin. Snip
 
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^ You might want to edit out that location so you don't draw any added to attention to that venue.

If you are pawning a bunch of shit then it's time to quit IMO. I can't do that kinda shit. Being that strung out takes almost all the fun out of using dope. That's why I take a break whenever going two days without dope starts getting me sick. Why not just pick up some subs? They are the best value for your money IMO, since one pill should be able to hold most people with big habits for 3 days at least, which is a lot cheaper than copping dope for 3 days that might not even get you high. Just save your cash for times when you can get enough to get high, and use subs to fill the gaps.
 
not bad. alcohol, weed, 70mg flexeril, 2mg suboxone, 4mg klonopin, , seagull, 60mg ritlin
 
jeebis said:
not bad. alcohol, weed, 70mg flexeril, 2mg suboxone, 4mg klonopin, , seagull, 60mg ritlin
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That's your combo for getting clean? Doesn't sound like a totally bad one, except I don't know what flexeril is, and alcohol usually messes with me really bad, pushing all the dope and sub out of me really quick (giving me bad w/d's). I usually use subs, smoke to get to sleep, and use kpins when I wake up in the middle of the night from extreme anxiety. The ritalin would be good to give me energy during the day at work.

Also I slipped up this morning, did a 3 bag shot so I can get through work. It sucks because I get more done when I'm dirty then when I'm clean. My boss reprimanded me a couple times when I first started getting clean because shit wasn't getting done. Then I gotta start using again so I can be productive. I wish I could tell her so she would give me a week to work slowly. I think I'd probably lose my job if I told her.

Anyway, on a better note, I figured I'd ask what you guys use---
What syringes do you guys use? The 1cc 100's or the 1/2 cc 50's? And how much water per bag? I've been steady using 20mL's (I assume that is) per bag and usually do 3-4 bags. My dope is a little darker than sand and I've never really had any issues or anything. I have a friend that swears by 7-10 mL's per bag and his shit looks like mud. Extremely dark. I couldn't even imagine using that little, and I'd see what you guys thought.
 
Today my usual dude that I cop with hasn't come back with the product, so I guess he beat me. Usually I take the ride and just toss him 10 bucks for gas, which is only about 2 bucks more than it costs to pick me up and drop me off. Well anyway, today someone was in the pickup truck with him, and since it's a 2 seater I couldn't go for the ride. I should have just taken the week off like I planned, but he was getting the same fire bags as last week, so I gave in. Also, I've been going through him since last summer, and lately I've copped with him every week, so I'm really wondering what happened today. He owes my other dealer money, so I'm wondering if he's just doing this all and then going to detox or some shit. He's gone downhill FAST since switching to the needle a few months ago. Hes been sniffing dope for 4 years, then switched to shooting less than 3 months ago, and it's been his demise. In those 3 short months he's totaled a car, lost a job, and ripped off our friend, and now me apparently. He didn't do any of that shit before he turned to the needle.

Right when I gave up on him coming back my friend texted me to come outside. She asked me for a cigarette since she was bugging out about a cancer screening she had to get, so she tossed me a Suboxone for the cig, and then a second one for another cig. I think that's a sign that it's time to slow down again. I've been using dope 2x a week, and subs 1-2x a week so I want to cut it back down to dope once a week, and no subs or anything between.

Its been hard lately because I work weekends, and get out late, so i can't use my money to go out with friends on the weekends since I'm working the whole time from Friday through Sunday, and my dealer with the best stuff is only around on the weekends now, so it's so easy to have him drop off bags at work since I work a lot closer to him than I live.
 
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that wasn't a combo nor my posting. my bitch of a downstairs neighbor got drunk and was looking at bluelight. she thought this thread was a dick measuring contest. i apologize.

my getting clean combo, ideally, is weed, klonopin, and either gabapentin or flexeril for the shakes. in fact, that was me for the past 2 days...
 
^ So are you dating the girl you mentioned like 2 posts ago, or was that her posting nonsense?
 
^ I was wondering that, but didn't want to seem like I'm not young and hip with all the latest drug slang. ;)
 
Im on day 3, I had some heroin caps 4 days ago and a 10mg hydro 3 days ago, im just been letting it go its course, but tonight I went to my girls place and came apon a 2mg sub i had hide months back, i took it and felt much much better. Ive been downing promethzine and muscle relaxers for the past days just to make myself ok enough to go into work. I lost my amazing hook who was very very easy to deal with, now im dealing with people i used to middle man for, its strange having the tables turned. Im trying to get another connect set up, but im worried that the guys bullshit.

He wants money to turn me over to a runner, like my last hook. Its so hard to find BTH in Dallas/fort worth. We have ZERO open air, and its very hard to get a actual dealer, not a fiene trying to catch a bag. Im a white guy in my young 20s, i cant just walk into a apt complex and start asking about. It wont go off well. Its sooo annoying having money but no connect. Ive been tempted to go to a local na meeting thats less than 1/8th mile away, maybe try the my friend just relapsed and i cant find him do you know any local houses? but then how would i even get a hook? i just wouldnt know even where to go. Im really considering kicking for good, but with my stress from work that will not happen.
 
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^ Haha.

Damn, so I just looked up online and saw that my boy got arrested yesterday, so I guess he didn't rip me off. Thank god he didn't have room in the car for me. I was only going to get 2 bags and sniff them right away like usual, so they might not have gotten me, but u never no. I would have tried eating the two bags and probably could have done it, but damn I'm glad I didn't have to. I wonder if they saw me calling. I only called 3x in 3 hours, so it's not like I was blowing him up all the time. Anyway, it's time to be extra careful.

Edit: I've gotta slow my role a bit. Whenever he couldn't spot out for me I took the ride with him, which was about half the time, so like once a week. At about the same time he was being arrested, my friend gave me those 2 subs for free (well traded for 2 cigs, so basically free) so if that's not a sign idk what is.

I don't wish that anybody gets arrested, but this dude needed something to stop him from doing dope. He's been shooting up daily for a few months, and was sniffing 3-5x a week for a long time before that. He was just saying the other day that he's not ready to quit, even though his arms are beat to hell, he's hiding it from his girl, and he's spending all his money on it. He's one of the reasons why I hate the needle, because I saw firsthand how much worse he got in the few short months since switching from sniffing to shooting. So he can add getting arrested to the list of shit that has happened since he started shooting, which includes wrecking his car and ripping a few people off. He usually had a rig on him so even if he got rid of the bags or didn't even cop yet he still could get arrested for paraphernalia. That's one of the other things that I hate about IV drug use, that you're always riding dirty, and if you have track marks you are all getting searched.
 
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^ it sucks your friend got arrested but that right there is why I never minded paying the tax.
 
^ Yea man, he usually just delivers it and I pay tax via a flat rate on gas, but since I've known him for 8 years and we used to chill before dope was in the picture I would take the ride with him when he didn't have the cash to front, so we could chill and get high, then he would drop me back off at home after a bit. I was never too worried because I'm a sniffer and would only get between 1 and 4 bags, depending on cash flow or if I just wanted one to help with my neck pain and not get high, do those bags would be gone 2 minutes after copping, and I would chew up the bags after I did them and spit them out so I didn't have them on me. That gave me a good idea of how hard it would be to chew and swallow them, but it's doable for only a few bags especially with a drink. I'm really interested to hear how the bust went down. Like if they saw the deal, or if he was getting high in his car after copping, and somebody noticed him doing it since it takes him like 15-20 minutes to hit.

I agree though about not minding paying a tax. At this stage in my life I can't afford a charge, so paying a small tax is worth the peace of mind. I've only gone to the city a few times to cop, and mostly just pay a tax to my friend that cops in the city. My friend that got popped yesterday cops locally, so I just pay a small tax which is a flat rate for gas, so basically after the first bag I pay the same price as him.
 
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^ You might want to edit out that location so you don't draw any added to attention to that venue.

If you are pawning a bunch of shit then it's time to quit IMO. I can't do that kinda shit. Being that strung out takes almost all the fun out of using dope. That's why I take a break whenever going two days without dope starts getting me sick. Why not just pick up some subs? They are the best value for your money IMO, since one pill should be able to hold most people with big habits for 3 days at least, which is a lot cheaper than copping dope for 3 days that might not even get you high. Just save your cash for times when you can get enough to get high, and use subs to fill the gaps.
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those dvds arent even worth amything..i would pay maybe 20bux for the sopranos complete series but the pawn show would prolly give you 10$..might as well just keep it...it goes to show you how pathetic people get when they get bad with it..already pawned everything, so now its time to pawn DVDs that no one is gonna want
 
So after doing a bit of research I found out that the dealer got busted along with my friend. I'm now wondering if the other kid in the car gave up the meeting spot, because it's usually one or the other that gets caught, not both. Especially since they were in different cars, and this dealer is crazy so if one cop tried to stop them both he would flee. The dealer is a crazy idiot and has caught 3 cases so far this year, and has several other from years past. It's safe to say that he's a career criminal, and will probably go back to dealing once things cool off, but not before doing some time probably.

Since he had two open cases he could have been getting followed, which may have led to them all getting caught together, but the other kid in the car with my friend appeared out of nowhere, and he was the only one not to catch a charge out of the 4 ppl in the 2 cars. He could have just not been handed his bags yet, or since he's not a shooter he may have been able to hide it and say he was just there for the ride, so who knows. He was in my place, and I think I would have had a 50/50 chance of getting away without a charge, so I'm not gonna speculate more until I hear the story from my friend.
 
he prolly was a snitch and set your people up and you just got lucky

my dealers got sentecewd to 3years for the same shit..dude got popped and told the cops that he would snitch..so they set u p a meeting and the cops where on the next block, when the deal went down, they came around the corner and got him

the onyl good thing is here in illinois if you get 3 years, you only got to do like 6months with double time and goodtime added onto it...plus his uncle works for the IDOC and is getting him transfered to a work program or something, so it will be an easy 6months for him..he still was tryin tio get his uncle to let him serve the time in county instead of goin to state
 
I finally cop'd a nice .4 bag of nice glass boy. After waiting over 8 hours I finally get my reward. I had to promise the guy works I didnt even have for him to come after hours of him saying hes on the way. Karma is a bitch I guess.I havent had boy in almost 2 weeks. I couldnt take it any longer. I had to cop, luckly I now have the balls to head to a nice pickup area in Ft worth, so I hope to have my own dealer by friday, so I can get my weeks worth I need and just chill on it, no chasing till next friday. Well im off to bed my fellow bluelighters with much love, ill enjoy my sweet tar dreams tonight ahhh.
 
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