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Trouble stopping Ketamine

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wheatley

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hey Bluelighters! heres my little problem. and i dont know if im just going crazy or i just need to sort myself out.


i take ketamine everyday. between 1-3 grams and have done on and off for 3 years. i will quit for a few months then pick it back up again hard!
i need to stop but just always have this massive mental craving for ketamine. i fucking LOVE the drug and if i wasnt contantly thinking it was gonna kill me i wouldnt be posting this thread. i want to know the true damage ketamine can cause really..
ive heard horror stories about bladder removal etc . but i've only had slight pee problems, i have had k cramps wich were fucking UNBEARABLE but still. im still doing it. still get them. a little stingy piss or needing the toilet maybe 12 times a day if ive cained it HARRDDD. (which could potentially be explained by the amount of water and cranberry juice i drink 4ltr's a dayi'sh) and always over drink so that i can pee as much as possible. I take cranberry extract and milk-thisstle and other vitamins that help with cleansing and circulation, maybe as some sort of trickery to me making me believe im counteracting the risks i just dont know. i feel im in a bad place.
while on the other hand, recently, i'm happy with my life. Ive been saving money from a job i have and want to go traveling for a few months to get away from everything
(mainly drugs and family problems) and ive been doing well as saving. so i can prove to myself that i can achieve. im just scared im too addited.
i think about it everyday. every problem i have its like 'lets take a line' and the fact its so available makes it worse. i have as large group of friends that i do it with.... everyone does it really aha! im trapped in the k circle. but i i know i cant go on living like this without answers. somone with first hand experince.
in conclusion. i would just like to know how much permanent damage ketamine can do to your bladder/kidneys/gall bladder? and how quick are those organs to heal? and whats a good way of coming of of ketamine? ive tried just sticking to weed but my mind just switches and i just go buy a gram.
and as soon as i have a couple of drinks the first thing that comes to mind is a line. and have k cramps been known to cause any serious health risks?

ive never injected. scared i would like it too much although my friends who do IM say its a lot cleaner... is this true?
 
if you are truly in love with K its best to do it only from time to time so you could use it until the end :P
 
in conclusion. i would just like to know how much permanent damage ketamine can do to your bladder/kidneys/gall bladder?
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Ketamine can do a real number on some people's bladders, but that seems to be the extent of it... just destruction of bladder tissue and the resulting compluications like painful/frequent urination.

how quick are those organs to heal?
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They don't, in general, they just stop getting worse when you stop taking ketamine.

and whats a good way of coming of of ketamine?
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Stop taking it.

have k cramps been known to cause any serious health risks?
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Just bladder damage.

ive never injected. scared i would like it too much although my friends who do IM say its a lot cleaner... is this true?
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The experience is cleaner, but the risks to your body are still the same.

You might want to consider making a post over in The Dark Side about help reducing or stopping your ketamine use - it sounds like it might be causign you some trouble.

Once bladder damage has set in it's a pretty good sign that your ketamine days are over for now. There's nothing you can do to slow down or reverse the damage once it's started.

Detoxing off ketamine can be psychologically very hard, but your body isn't going to suffer.
 
On a documentary I heard you need to use over 1g per day for a year and then you have 20% chance of bladder damage, or something like that.

If you want to quit then you will need to ditch everyone you know on K, possibly go on a long vacation or change towns etc and keep to yourself, flush your stash and destroy any equipment/paraphernalia, delete all dealers/friends who have the drug from your phone and change your number.

You could also consider switching to something like MXE as it has been reported to be less dangerous to the bladder since you need a lower dose and less builds up in your body but this again is a RC and no evidence that it is safer.
 
You're not going to be able to save much money when you're paying $25k for bladder removal/transplant surgery. So much for that idea. Quit while you're still ahead man! Replace that void with something else!
 
On a documentary I heard you need to use over 1g per day for a year and then you have 20% chance of bladder damage, or something like that.
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I'd be very skeptical of this. How exactly would they come up with such figures?
 
has anybody on here actualy been admitted to hospital or anything via ketamine.
not from falling over or anything just by abusing it too much.
i know i need to stop, i know ive been needing to for a very long time. i know its not phsyically addictive but the mental cravings i have for it are massive.
and all of my friends who ive knows since early teens bosh it as much as me. some even more...
one of my friends who toot's brown sais that mentally k is worse the the smack he's doing... dunno weather to believe him its a pretty big statement.
but yeh... sat here with a big bag right next to me really isnt helping at all...
only thing that use to take my mind off it was my girlfriend and now we have massive arguments and things are wierd between me and her family so i spend a lot of time by myself with a lot of ketamine around me. i really dont know what to do to be honest....
 
Yes, please ignore the advice to replace one habit with another one. MXE is similar enough to ket that you'll probably love that too much too. And while it's said that it was designed to be more potent weight for weight than ketamine allowing it to be used with less risk to physical health, well as the poster who suggested this in the first place pointed out: it's an RC, so nobody knows what it can do. It could end up worse.

You wouldn't be the first person to notice extremely troubling side effects after frequent use, which point to it not being particularly safe when abused.
 
ive had MXE and it is nice. just lasts too long and i wouldnt be able to work if i abused MXE like i do ketamine. plus its not as easy just to do and get on with your day to day life, wich i can do with k. everytime i take a psychedelic like mushrooms or acid i manage to lay off it for a few days cause it really tells me somthing about how bad im getting. then ill run into a friend who has some, or hell want some and so will i and it goes on from there.
i use to just smoke copious amounts of weed and now its just escolated to k.
really dont want to fuck my bladder up but i just love feeling downnnnnnnnn, and dont wanna go down the opiate road (even tho oramorph is amazing :P)
eff knows im just a bit lost really.
 
recently ive been having mad cravings just to get a hold of some other kind of downer so that it will take my mind off of ketamine.
as ive said my friend uses heroin now as he was doing too much k and he sais, mentally, ket is worse than his smack addiction. and he doesnt seem to be as troubled as me, but maybe he hides it.. maybe cause he has more money.. i dont know.
 
The effects of chronic use on the brain and cognition

Reduced Pre-frontal Gray Matter After Chronic Ketamine Use

Bluelight discussion of above

There's been further discussion of this study elsewhere on bluelight but it's scattered. If you type "Reduced Pre-frontal Gray Matter After Chronic Ketamine Use" site:bluelight.ru into Google you should be able to find some of it. From what I've read of critiques the general consensus is that this study is probably pretty good evidence that chronic use causes these gray matter reductions as well as measurable cognitive deficits. There was a direct correlation between the amount of ketamine used, the duration of use, and these reductions and deficits.

If true, you've almost certainly caused yourself brain and bodily harm with your kind of use. It may be reversible, especially so if you're young, but you need to quit. Quitting may mean moving and ditching any friends that enable your use (in short, if you're serious about quitting remove yourself from the problem environment and make real changes in your life). Your travel plans are a good start. When you return volunteer somewhere, take a night and weekend job -- just make sure you stay busy and removed from everything that makes you want K. If drinking makes you want a line stop drinking, too. There's no real dissociative alternative to ketamine that I think you could use like you use K and not have it also take a toll. One to three grams per day for three years is pretty over the top. It's not that uncommon, sure, but relative commonality doesn't mean it's not reckless, it just means lots of people are probably fucking themselves over.
 
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With Ketamine your enemy is cravings rather than rough physical withdrawals like opioids and other drugs, so the key to recovery is to keep yourself occupied, keep your mind busy and away from the thought of taking more Ketamine. Each day you manage to keep your mind off it and avoid using the cravings should slowly lessen until they're not there at all :)
 
i stilll want to get high. just not ruin my life... many friends are going down the opiate route and im scared i will too.
how much harder is it to come of opoids then ketamine? should i carry on having fun or ditch everybody and cold turkey it out?!
opinions?!
 
since i posted this thread iv'e gone off the rails... tonight iv'e done and eighth of k tonight and 8 valium.
my girlfriend said she doesn't know what to do with me, and i don't know what to do with myself.
i'm still working, but part time and my addiction is turning me against work. and im still living at home with my mum who's worried im gonna end up as a junkie.
the amount of drugs ive been doing has changed me as a person and i'm scared i wont be able to change back to the me i use to be.
im always a happy go lucky guy but recently all my thought process has been on money, drugs, money, drugs, money drugs.... ongoing processs.
i want to change but fucking hell, i don't know what to do..
 
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