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drugs or substances you won't touch again

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Cyc said:
A better question is which substances I would touch again.

Once you hit 30, you begin to realize how tenuous your hold on reality is, and you realize how thin that line is between a recreational drug user and a gibbering street walker who talks to himself and people cross the street to avoid.
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Truth. Well put sir.
 
Datura...
it's just fucking terrible, I did it at 4 am, went to sleep, woke up at 9 am and started waking up my bed... for some reason I thought everything was alive, I asked my clock what time it was, I talked to a glass of watter, I talked to people that weren't there, and then I went to school, well there's nothing wrong with going to school, except IT WAS FUCKING SUNDAY, also my friend was on it and he lost his bike... idk how you can lose a bike, but he lost it, other friend woke up his mom at 3 am and asked her where the bazooka is (wtf) and one friend woke up in a hospital and started chasing a elf or dwarf i don't know exactly what he saw... bottom line it's not a drug, it's psychosis in the form of a plant, so I'm never taking that again...
 
You aren't lying man. I recently was freed from jail for about a month had a dwi possession and resisting and I was the same way, for me there is no "drink responsibly" I get hammered and whoop peoples asses for next to nothing or if I'm not handing out whippings I'm getting jumped by the three friends of the dude I just beat and wake up next morning in the shower cold water still spraying down relentlessly and late for work, and still drunk. Needless to say I've evolved to a higher level of consciousness and no longer shoot dope, get drunk ( I'll have 10 beers max) maybe a little rum or scotch periodically but I still regularly smoke chronic of course. But I had multiple full scale epiphanies in jail after conversing with ex convicts for a month and realized the gravity of the situations I've been in and realized i was in route to prison. I'm 20 and to the man who degraded marijuana . Yes alot of people lose ambition (I was one ) I've been smoking weed since 13 (habitually) and I once blamed marijuana for my lack of basically everything lol i was more than capable of graduating highsvhool but rather than give a fuck and apply myself I'd skip school and go to any one of my other friends house who had already dropped out and would smoke weed of course obviously there are numerous contributing factors such as deceased father and alcoholic suicidal mother . Moral of this story I realized I've completely diverged but the mind is limitlessly powerful and I know long walk with tombstones in my eyes instead love life and have an all new respect for living and how magical life really is. Sorry and I appreciate anyone who reads the entire thing
 
Cyc said:
A better question is which substances I would touch again.

Once you hit 30, you begin to realize how tenuous your hold on reality is, and you realize how thin that line is between a recreational drug user and a gibbering street walker who talks to himself and people cross the street to avoid.
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Ah, well, I don't think it's your age that determines the time when this happens but rather your life experiences. I'm 22 and I got dragged down into the gutter terribly back in the days. For some drugs there's no "recreational use" without "abuse" at the same time...
 
Bath Salts...

Tried it and had such a horrible time. All my muscles in my legs tensed up to the point where I felt like I had RLS again. I couldn't sleep for about 2 days after too. Never going near that stuff again.
 
All Cathinones

Especially with Pentedrone the craving was unreal... couldn't make sense of it, because all it gave me was a little ego push with extreme unpleasant side-effects like Heartache, Stomachache, Headache, Cramps, uncontrollable shaking etc....

Seriously, the only interesting part of the experience was the short psychosis at the comedown.
 
Weed. Me and THC do not mix. I have done many hallucinogenics, but never have I tripped so hard than on weed. Last time I smoked I felt like a schizophrenic with 20 personalitys having a panic attack for hours. I lost sense of my ego and lost total control. Mescaline and acid come no where close to ever giving me the type of experience I had on that weed that night. Fucked up thing was, I was with 3 friends and they were all fine. Fuck all you people who say weed is harmless.... some people, like myself, have horrible reactions to it. I would much rather take part in a gay orgy and have in broadcasted live to the world than put marijuana to my lips ever again. That shit is the devil.
 
re: "theres a thin line..."

drdoctor said:
Truth. Well put sir.
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very well put... I am 45 and for some stupid ass reason I started snorting heroin about 3 months ago. I had never done anything stronger than 3 (10mg time release) oxys, or maybe 10 of the 10mg lortabs in a day. i do have chronic pain and have rx for (6) 10 mg vicodin a day. Anyway my pain is such that i could not go to work . I could not control my RX for my pain meds so I had to put each daily dose in a container, then give the containers to my husband to put in a safe that only he has the keys too. This is the only way that I will take my meds as prescribed. my husband dispenses my pills daily.
I still have a lot of pain. Have had nerve blocks etc but nothing works long term.
so a friend (one of those bad influence friends) told me he could help me - told me to snort heroin. gave it to me. and here i am 3 months later feeling like such a jerk..I am too old to be tangling with dealers...I have a good job that I love. What is wrong with me ?
I just have a lot of shame...so that line about realizing how thin the line is between being a user or a jibbering street person really resonates with me. If my husband found out, if my boss found out...if i overdraw my bank account...i am so close to being totally screwed. i don't know why this shit has a hold on me. i have not IVed. I give myself credit for that one thing. but otherwise i am really feeling a bit of self pity right now. i don't feel welcome in NA meetings because i take legit RXs...and in my town you are not allowed to speak at an NA meeting if you are taking ANYTHING, RX for legit pain or anything. i need help. i am about 3 highs away from losing A LOT. on the plus side...haven't seen dealer since sat night. it is monday afternoon. been sick but don't have to work till tuesday night. anyway...thanks for the posts. :?
 
Hey Guys,

I'm from South Africa so please excuse my ignorance of all these 'designer' drugs being discussed in this forum. For me... I've been smoking weed for about 10 years... although the quality of the average weed on the street in(most parts) of South Africa is generally very poor(generally grown outdoors without so much as grow lights, chemically balanced soil/humidity etc...) The average stoner in South Africa smokes weed originating from Swaziland(sativa strain)...But the impression that the internet gives of swazi is that it is a strain of weed comparable in strength to Durban Poison(The only other internationally hyped African weed I am familiar with)....I say don't believe it! I smoke Swazi almost every day as it is freely available, but sinceI do not live near the coast(ie Durban) Durban Poison is a scarce thing for me.

Although to be fair, during the 2 years or so in which I became intimate with D.P I was going through massive cognitive dissonance(..google it)) as a result of confusing paranoia with religious stigmata...So basically I was so stoned that I was seeing stuff that wasn't really there, and believing that these visions/messages were messages from a higher power(Doubly confusing considering that up until this point I had always been a fervent atheist....)..So even the smallest hit of weak weed would put me in a very confused/speculative mindset..

Anyways I digress....
Ah yes.. drugs...
I have experience with only a handful of drugs namely : codeine (experimentation with cough mixture/pain killer), heroine (experimentation), lsd (occasionally, although as a reasonably healthy alternative I wish it was my primary choice...probably had about 50 trips in my life), ecstacy (not in the past few years but I must have taken 300-400 pills in my last 2 years of high school),cocaine(seldom, althoug I enjoy it), kat(very frequently due to price and availability)
 
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