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Do you think the richest of the rich have access to drugs we can only dream about?

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Im talking about the mega elite rich people of the word, Rockefeller, Rothschild's, those ultra rich dubai oil barons.

Setting up a fulling functioning lab with the best chemists would be the loose change in their back pocket.

Do you think these people, mainly the young ones of the family's have access to drugs that are 10 time better than ecstasy and they like with no comedown or side effects? If you think about it with the chemists and labs that they could set up with unlimited budgets and all the experimental compounds at their fingertips i bet they could produce some crazy stuff. For recreation and health benefits alike, i sometimes think these people do indeed hold the cure to allot of things but releasing it to the world would loose them allot of money.

just wanted to see what other people opinions were on this.

Much thanks.
 
Jonro said:
Im talking about the mega elite rich people of the word, Rockefeller, Rothschild's, those ultra rich dubai oil barons.

Setting up a fulling functioning lab with the best chemists would be the loose change in their back pocket.

Do you think these people, mainly the young ones of the family's have access to drugs that are 10 time better than ecstasy and they like with no comedown or side effects? If you think about it with the chemists and labs that they could set up with unlimited budgets and all the experimental compounds at their fingertips i bet they could produce some crazy stuff. For recreation and health benefits alike, i sometimes think these people do indeed hold the cure to allot of things but releasing it to the world would loose them allot of money.

just wanted to see what other people opinions were on this.

Much thanks.
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Nah. An aristocrat in England was disgraced by his cocaine usage. Disinherited. The bulk of them just do coke or drink fine wines and/or champagne.
 
Doubt it. Most of them are conservative hardliners hell bent on outward propriety.

If anything, they have access to life prolonging drugs and real cures to disease.
 
Yeah, this is not advanced

I'm pretty positive that there's no conspiracy of this nature. There's definitely an underground pharmacology scene, but it's not the Rich and Powerful that run it, it's people who know chemistry & have the balls to do illegal stuff (LSD cooks et cetera).

GlaxoSmithKline and other pharmacare giants spend billions to trillions of dollars yearly and look at the results they produce. You would need an unprecedented amount of time, money, and other resources to even develop a comparable pharma setup, let alone to keep it all under wraps so nobody find you're actually cooking Super Meth. The government can't even manage to keep the lid on e.g. Tuskegee syphilis experiments, MKULTRA, the Storm malware or Occupy protests, how would it manage to keep a whole clandestine drug development program hidden?

i sometimes think these people do indeed hold the cure to allot of things but releasing it to the world would loose them allot of money.
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Okay, say you're a pharma company, and you develop a drug that systematically destroys the HIV virus in 90% of healthy people. Unless you get every single person involved in the project to stay totally fucking silent, for their whole lifetime (which is going to be impossible, because that's a bloody revolutionary breakthrough) you're going to have someone, somewhere spend whatever price it takes to reverse engineer your compound - and then it's in the free market. Either that, or you patent it, and everyone can see how to formulate it form the get-go but you have legal protection.

Plus you have to realize that there are regulatory bodies like the FDA, DHHS, WHO who would be putting astronomical amounts of pressure on your imaginary pharma company. Also the public, once news broke that there's a magic drug on the market.

Basically, the whole idea that cancer has been cured behind our backs and merely suppressed this whole time is irrational at best.

Moreover, the mere premise of a drug that has all positive effects and no negative ones is a pipe dream, plain and simple.


Let's try this in Drug Culture.
 
Well I doubt they buy from small dealers, and therefore closer to the source.
Probably better quality than the regular street-stuff.

edit: Never mind, missed that you're talking about a new compound. In that case, don't think so.
 
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Well the closest thing to what you're talking about would probably be a situation similar to what Ray Kurzweil has going on, that uis you have a full time staff to "optimize" several biological parameters using known compounds.

No one is going to spend billions developing an amazing new drug for anything without at least trying to market it to more than one person unless you're talking monoclonal antibodies and even then they'd market the production technique.
 
It's funny because I was just talking about this the other day with the girlfriend; we were watching some bullshit on the royal family, Prince William and shit... and I couldn't help but think, damn, they're always in the public eye, so doing drugs the way that we do drugs is just not an option for them, huh?

I mean, I'm not sure that Prince Henry or Prince William could have ever gotten away with taking the Bentley out on a dope-run. But who knows...
 
why re-invent the wheel? it would be much easier to get a doctor to prescribe your DOC and have legal grounds for possession.
 
^at sekio
Not fully disagreeing with you but I must say there are proven methods of fighting ( not curing) cancer that have much higher success rates than the common methods used, like chemotherapy. I have seen studies as well as real world evidence first hand of how effective some homeopathic treatments are. I do not say they are the end all cure, but big pharma almost undoubtably are pushing down some of cancer treatments available so they can maintain profits.
 
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verso said:
It's funny because I was just talking about this the other day with the girlfriend; we were watching some bullshit on the royal family, Prince William and shit... and I couldn't help but think, damn, they're always in the public eye, so doing drugs the way that we do drugs is just not an option for them, huh?

I mean, I'm not sure that Prince Henry or Prince William could have ever gotten away with taking the Bentley out on a dope-run. But who knows...
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Might apply to royalties, but alot of people who are concidered "paparazzi food" use drugs too. Thinking moviestars/singers/entertainers. They're in the public eye too, no doubt.
Often this information spills, but I'm sure there are alot who get away with it too. Though a royalty might be different. Our prince Laurent from Belgium could totally get away with it as he (successfully) avoids being seen in private situations. He has a reputation of "not having a stick up his ass" and he looks like a very casual person for his position. I believe he's had a scandal or two before, and still most Belgians like him more than our crown-prince. Laurent has charisma, Philippe doesn't, at all. Lol.

Anyway the UK royalties ofc are way more famous, so they would obviously suffer more consequences should they use and get caught. They're being watched more thoroughly aswell. Alot of people would concider it a disgrace, and make a huge deal about it because they feel princes should be "model citizens", who never make mistakes. But they're still only humans like everyone else, who didn't choose to be born a royalty. Anything is possible these days I suppose. But if they were to do it, they'd better be damn careful. :D
 
Plenty of rich people (Saying they possess these meds, which is impossible, but w/e.) would give it away without turning a profit. Good PR. (Bono, I'm looking your way. :D )

The companies that actually make them on the other hand..
 
^at sekio
Not fully disagreeing with you but I must say there are proven methods of fighting ( not curing) cancer that have much higher success rates than the common methods used, like chemotherapy. I have seen studies as well as real world evidence first hand of how effective some homeopathic treatments are. I do not say they are the end all cure, but big pharma almost undoubtably are pushing down some of cancer treatments available so they can maintain profits.
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Homeopathic treatments? Is that a joke? Homeopathy is based on the premise that "water has a memory" and the dilutions used in the final doses typically contain no molecules of active drug. Essentially homeopathic treatments are plain old water, and the newer more rigorous meta-analyses and clinical trials have confirmed that the efficacy is placebo, nothing more.

Physicist Robert L. Park, former executive director of the American Physical Society, has noted that:

since the least amount of a substance in a solution is one molecule, a 30C solution would have to have at least one molecule of the original substance dissolved in a minimum of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 [or 1060] molecules of water. This would require a container more than 30,000,000,000 times the size of the Earth
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy#High_dilutions
 
During my street heroin part of the i.v. part of my opioid addiction I have seen a lot of guys in suits buying from the same dealers I bought from. The only advantage they had was obviously money. Well, heroin wasn't cheap even at that time, especially compared to morphine ampoules I could get but cocaine was and is definitely the most expensive drug on the street here and it's very rare among people earning the average salary to afford that kind of addiction. The quality of everything on the street has dropped down in the recent years, so I wouldn't pay the equivalent of one penny to them dealers right now for whatever drug. And the price of marihuana is ridiculous when you're not an acquaintance of someone dealing, when you convert it to pounds, it's more expensive than in London sometimes.

These rich bastards don't have access to anything more than any drug user can get access to. They're just able to pay more, so this means they can stay high on cocaine all day even if this means snorting 5g throughout the day. An average user will have to pick some amphetamine or other shitty speed to get high off a stimulant. Heroin... Well, the most widespread form of it here and in Europe is "no. 3", i.e. a beige powder with heroin freebase, some caffeine is added so the powder melts into a drop quicker, then the vapour is inhaled (most people use aluminium foil, IMO it's a waste of product and it's better to use a light bulb for example, so no vapour gets lost in the air). If one wants to shoot it up, then he/she adds some citric acid and water, then boils it or adds 10% acetic acid water solution but that's rarer. White to off-white heroin that is heroin hydrochloride is there but it's much more expensive. Of course its purity is also much higher (brown sugar purity is now at most 10%, I guess, in the old times it used to be ~20% if one has had a good source). So the rich can definitely afford the white powder.

I saw businessmen, lawyers etc. buying off the same people I used to once upon a time. And I saw completely wasted junkies shoplifting to get money for a few fixes to keep them going. At that time heroin (beside the infamous Polish kompot) was available only in Warsaw so I visited the capital like once a week and bought the stuff wholesale so it lasts me a week as I attended school then and had classes on every weekday, it was cheaper as the price dropped down then very fast as you bought more than 1.5g or so, depending on the dealer.

An addict is an addict, all of us didn't differ in one thing - we were hooked on opioids, everything had its story. The difference between those rich men and average dope users is just money, nothing else.
 
I doubt that they have access to much better drugs. They probably just have more coke. And they might have better prescriptions.
 
alkap555 said:
Homeopathic treatments? Is that a joke? Homeopathy is based on the premise that "water has a memory" and the dilutions used in the final doses typically contain no molecules of active drug. Essentially homeopathic treatments are plain old water, and the newer more rigorous meta-analyses and clinical trials have confirmed that the efficacy is placebo, nothing more.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy#High_dilutions
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This is not what I was speaking of.... I guess my terminology was too simple or mistaken. By homeopathic, I meant remedies that work with the body itself, usually expensive herbal tinctures and extracts along with specific treatments by physicians. I was not talking about "water memory" or whatever the hell that is .
 
Hiltoniano said:
Not fully disagreeing with you but I must say there are proven methods of fighting ( not curing) cancer that have much higher success rates than the common methods used, like chemotherapy.
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Well, you claim you have seen studies that "prove" these remedies work. Got any evidence from a real journal (JAMA, NEJM, Nature, Lancet, etc - any tier-1 peer-reviewed publication) to back this up?

If you can produce convincing evidence, I would be really interested to see it. But if you can't produce anything significant, its highly unlikely that your claims are true. Such a discovery would be a breakthrough, and would surely be published in the tier 1 literature, and could be found easily on something like pubmed or scifinder.
 
As far as recreational drugs go they don't get anything better than any of us nor do they care to. They just get high off the same borring generic drugs some junkie in the ghetto does the only differnce is they are better connected and more likely to get higher quality stuff with less cut.
 
phenethylo J said:
As far as recreational drugs go they don't get anything better than any of us nor do they care to. They just get high off the same borring generic drugs some junkie in the ghetto does the only differnce is they are better connected and more likely to get higher quality stuff with less cut.
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Lol.
 
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