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Magic mushrooms in the 60s

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Hi.

I am curious at how prevalent the use of magic mushrooms (or synthetic psilocybin) was back in the 1960s, specially how it compared to the rate of LSD usage. Does anyone have this information? People always talk about LSD and marijuana beings the drugs which had the most impact on 60s culture and generally mushrooms aren't mentioned. Personally however, I believe mushrooms are far superior to LSD so that is why I am curious about them.
 
If thats true, I think that is really a shame, that mushrooms weren't widely available during the height of the psychedelic explosion. For me, they have given experiences that LSD has never even approached.
 
but lots of low potency drugs are made available to everyone. there is a whole industry that makes them.
 
I dunno about the sixties, i was born in the 60's but grew up a child of the 70's in rural England and there were magic mushrooms going around then seasonally, It must have been around 1976 (that stinking hot summer) that I remember there being a lot of them around.

There used to be a big country/gypsy markets once a year in Cornwall called the Elephant Fair, that was famous for mushrooms.
 
mushrooms superior to lsd ? yeah right haha
im guessing people that say that haven't tried real lsd
 
mushrooms superior to lsd ? yeah right haha
im guessing people that say that haven't tried real lsd

No. It's this thing called PREFERENCE. Because drug experiences are very SUBJECTIVE. Although I prefer LSD personally, I can't laugh at people who prefer mushrooms. That's called being IGNORANT and STUPID. :)

And could it be argued that, if many of the contributors to psychedelic culture were turned on by psilocybin, that it also has a fairly large importance?
 
wayab, if you had ever taken a strong dose of mushrooms, you would maybe still prefer lsd but you certainly wouldn't laugh at the other person's post

hence, i'm sorry for you that you've never actually felt the effects of mushrooms

i'm also sorry to see this kind of attitude in a quality forum
 
Lsd isnt superior to mushrooms ime, and mushrooms arent superior to lsd, overall no psychedelic drug is more superior than the other imo. They both can knock your dick in the dirt times ten, alot favor lsd and I use to aswel.

I thought mushrooms were weak and would never amount to lsd at one point, i had a couple very very intense experiences that changed the way i view mushrooms and other compounds greatly.

my good friends dad was a hippy in the 60s and into the 70s and he said they ate alot of fungus theyd go fungus hunting and fill bags up. He lived in texas to in the country said they were every where.
 
mushrooms superior to lsd ? yeah right haha
im guessing people that say that haven't tried real lsd

It's like comparing a good coffee to a good beer, each has their place, one is not "better" than the other, that's a preposterous thing to say.
 
I am yet to experience my first shroom trip but from what I hear and read; its more spiritual than LSD. LSD gave me a divine feel which had me thinking astronomical things.
 
It's like comparing a good coffee to a good beer, each has their place, one is not "better" than the other, that's a preposterous thing to say.

I disagree that its a "preposterous" thing to say. If I had to give up one (well I've actually given both but let's say if I could have one back) I would pick beer over coffee any day. Beer has a lot more desirable effects for me than coffee does. I understand the concept of two things each having their place, but that doesn't mean you can't place a lot more value on one of them than the other.
 
I understand the concept of two things each having their place, but that doesn't mean you can't place a lot more value on one of them than the other.

Yes, you can place more value on one than the other but that doesn't mean one is better than the other. You might prefer bananas to oranges but that does not mean bananas are "better" than oranges. It simply means you prefer bananas. Y'follow?
 
I was under the impression that mushrooms were just as prevalent as acid back then, but the shrooms were much less potent than they are today. I could be wrong though.

No, hardly anyone used them in America - most people thought they only grew in South America. All of the the people who first tried them in America like Ginsberg etc were using "psilocybin pills" from Sandoz that Leary purchased. Once acid came in it was a lot cheaper than buying psilocybin pills so it died out. It wasn't until 1976 that the mushroom growing methods were discovered.
 
well its all about the potency. mushrooms is the least potent by weight, lsd is the most potent. it was easy to pass around and transport cuz it only took one drop for things to become radically different. i would love the share mescaline with everyone but needing 300mg to dose is not as "monetarily" beneficial as something that takes 100mcg to dose.
 
No, hardly anyone used them in America - most people thought they only grew in South America. All of the the people who first tried them in America like Ginsberg etc were using "psilocybin pills" from Sandoz that Leary purchased. Once acid came in it was a lot cheaper than buying psilocybin pills so it died out. It wasn't until 1976 that the mushroom growing methods were discovered.
yep, this is correct. it wasn't until the later 60s (generally the 70s and even 80s) that public knowledge of psilocybe mushrooms spread to local areas. it was widely known that these mushrooms were used traditionally in south and central america by indigenous populations, but it wasn't until many years later that the widespread distribution of psilocybe mushrooms (in their various localised forms) became known to populations of drug users.
various fungi fruiting bodies are notoriously difficult to identify, particularly in pre-internet days.

there are naturally occurring 'magic mushrooms' in a lot of different places around the world, including urban areas - but for many budding psychedelic communities, there was little knowledge of what was or wasn't growing right under their noses, outside of academic circles.
in cases where there was little cross-over between psychedelic and mycology folks, this knowledge did not become widely disseminated until the 60s had long since passed.
for example, in my part of the world (western australia) there is but a small patch of psilocybe subaeruginosa known to grow in a particular patch of forest a few hundred kilometres south of the largest city in the region. it may have been known locally by a small hippie population earlier, but common knowledge of this only spread in the mid 1980s (as is my understanding).
it should be noted, however, that this is not a naturally occurring species, but one that may have been transported by industry/agriculture from the eastern coast of the continent - which may account for why it took west aussie heads so long to find out about them.


iROLL22 said:
well its all about the potency. mushrooms is the least potent by weight, lsd is the most potent. it was easy to pass around and transport cuz it only took one drop for things to become radically different. i would love the share mescaline with everyone but needing 300mg to dose is not as "monetarily" beneficial as something that takes 100mcg to dose.
this logic may be true when taking the general practicalities of drug economics into account (for example comparing the smuggling traffic of opium to heroin) but until the later part of the 1960s most psychedelics were still legal.

psilocybin/psilocin and the mushrooms they naturally occurred in were not considered a drug in much of the world until the united states added them to the list of scheduled drugs, along with others such as LSD - so before this time, bulk or detectability of material was not a huge concern.

much of leary's famed psychedelic research at harvard (and beyond) was conducted with psilocybin - but rather than mushrooms, he was dealing with synthesised product from sandoz - in pill form.

the culture and widespread use of psychedelic mushrooms in the developed western world is a fairly recent development - one that is continuing to grow, but it was still very much in its infancy in the 1960s; an exotic and fairly unknown doorway.
thanks to the perseverance and commitment of people such as terrence mckenna, and the enormous amount of information about them spread on the internet, magic mushrooms have become an ever-expanding part western consciousness.
 
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