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Is there a new speech/writing recognition search engine that you're testing?

 

[Transform]

Has aPVP been mentioned in this thread yet?

It's not very new and there's not a whole lot of information about it so I guess it's not very popular based on that.

It's also already illegal in the UK so I don't see much reason for it to crop up here.

I tried it and found it to be ok - no euphoria but quite a social aspect and a noticeable comedown. I doubt I'll be bothering with it again because I'm not a fan of comedowns.

 

[Na'vi]

I know it's been around for a while now, but I'm starting to gain an interest in MDAi. I used to do a lot of MDxx until the come downs became too bad and my fiendishness for the drug was reaching dangerous levels. I've not done any MDxx in almost 3 years now and feel great. However, I kinda miss that feeling. I don't miss feeling awful for the next two/three days though. I was wondering, as MDAi is meant to be weaker and less stimulating, does that mean the come down is less harsh? Or will it still make me feel like arse for a couple of days? It seems like it could be a nice compound to take in the sun on the beach or something, without getting too visibly fucked.

 

[Shambles]

I find MDAI less physically draining than MDMA but more mentally draining (ie comedown mongdom lasts langer and runs deeper but less aches and pains and that). Tis a goody though. Doesn't really lend itself to overly excessive use cos there's a distinct limit on how "high" you go and a vertiginous drop to come if you take the piss. Ideal for a chilled day/eve/nite (probably not in blazing sun though) but is distinctly "mongy/stoney" and you will definitely look mangled on highish doses. Very euphoric and loved up but absolutely zero stimulation (unless injected... but that's probably not such a great idea...).

There was a good thread on it here in EADDland not so long ago if you search.

 

[effie]

Here it is - I organised the megathreads in the "Essential reading" thang in our header recently

I'm a fan. What Shams said, really

 

[swedger77]

in my limited MDAI use, i felt pretty bad the next day and i looked totally fucked (dilated pupils) whilst high.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I see that 3mmc is available now; this chemical is believed by some to be that special ingredient that gave pre ban meph its distinctive specialness, and is what has been missing in the production of post ban meph. The lack of this is what had made post-ban lacking, so the theory goes. Wouldnt mind trying some of this, if the theory is correct then possibly 4mec + 3mmc might give something simillar to preban meph.

TBH im not totally convinced or overly optimistic, but no harm in trying eh.

 

[Rio Fantastic]

I see that 3mmc is available now; this chemical is believed by some to be that special ingredient that gave pre ban meph its distinctive specialness, and is what has been missing in the production of post ban meph. The lack of this is what had made post-ban lacking, so the theory goes. Wouldnt mind trying some of this, if the theory is correct then possibly 4mec + 3mmc might give something simillar to preban meph.

TBH im not totally convinced or overly optimistic, but no harm in trying eh.

Where does 4-MEC fit into this? Surely prepan meph if anything other than plain ol 4-MMC was a mixture 4-MMC and 3-MMC.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I see that 3mmc is available now; this chemical is believed by some to be that special ingredient that gave pre ban meph its distinctive specialness, and is what has been missing in the production of post ban meph. The lack of this is what had made post-ban lacking, so the theory goes. Wouldnt mind trying some of this, if the theory is correct then possibly 4mec + 3mmc might give something simillar to preban meph.

TBH im not totally convinced or overly optimistic, but no harm in trying eh.

Very unlikely. The starting chemical is a 4-methyl for 4-mmc, and the starting chem to make 3-mmc is a 3-methyl+it is more difficult to make. Putting the methyl on a different ring doesn't really make it legal in most jurisdictions either... Plus, according to Sekio, it is quite possible that this will cause heart hypertrophy.

Where do people get these myths from by the way? Lots of mephedrone was tested and none came out as 3-mmc. Most of it came out exceptionally pure, so I doubt it is anything but psychological... especially when you consider there were some people who swore by the powdery meph that stank and some people swore by the crystallier stuff.

 

[Na'vi]

Cheers for the MDAi info everyone, I might give it a miss if it's pretty hard on the mind come down wise. I can be up and down at the best of times, haha. Back to the drawing board. I quite like EPH when I do enough to get proper euphoria, but it does make me a bit edgy and destroys my nose. Maybe my time with stims is over

 

[33Hz]

I got some UR-144 a few days ago which as far as I can tell looks pretty benign in structure compared to the naphthalene based JWH's. Quite impressed with it so far. Reminds me of a cross between JWH-081 and JWH-250 but with a slightly more benzo like feel to it in lower doses. High doses are quite trippy though, akin to a strong sativa. It's making my weed last a lot longer too which is a nice bonus.

 

[i against i]

Cheers for the MDAi info everyone, I might give it a miss if it's pretty hard on the mind come down wise. I can be up and down at the best of times, haha. Back to the drawing board. I quite like EPH when I do enough to get proper euphoria, but it does make me a bit edgy and destroys my nose. Maybe my time with stims is over

getting my first soon. know i should wait til i have an easy day the next day but it's gonna be straight in yo!

followed by regret.

i love eph (at least, the first couple hours of frequent lines and euphoria....not the after straight up harsh stimulation) as regular speed or coke doesn't really do much for me, but then it's probably all shit.

 

[33Hz]

getting my first soon. know i should wait til i have an easy day the next day but it's gonna be straight in yo!

followed by regret.

MDAI has one of the least harsh comedowns out of all the MDx type drugs i've tried. I wouldn't even call it a comedown tbh. I actually got a pretty decent afterglow off of it. It's only when you dose a few days apart from each other that it starts to fuck with your state of mind.

 

[i against i]

iv'd a couple shots as my scales suck in low weights as they've gotten older. iv = pointless, for this, it feels, so you don't need to do that. kinda almost got that stomach going over a bridge feeling that mdma gives you, without the energy, not as intense or simply amazing. was having an ok time chilling to de la soul but then something turned me on to the dead left on mt everest, e.g. green boots. as you can imagine that fucked up my mindset. was thinking "oi, stop reading about this shit, you're making yourself feel bad because you feel so much!"

3 hrs later, pretty much back down, very smooth as you say. may do some more and stick with de la soul and a tribe called quest....

will finish the bag but probably won't buy again.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

iv'd a couple shots as my scales suck in low weights as they've gotten older. iv = pointless, for this, it feels, so you don't need to do that. kinda almost got that stomach going over a bridge feeling that mdma gives you, without the energy, not as intense or simply amazing. was having an ok time chilling to de la soul but then something turned me on to the dead left on mt everest, e.g. green boots. as you can imagine that fucked up my mindset. was thinking "oi, stop reading about this shit, you're making yourself feel bad because you feel so much!"


3 hrs later, pretty much back down, very smooth as you say. may do some more and stick with de la soul and a tribe called quest....

will finish the bag but probably won't buy again.

Yeah mdai can be good for loosing yourself in other things - books or films etc it seems to clear your mind.

I got some UR-144 a few days ago which as far as I can tell looks pretty benign in structure compared to the naphthalene based JWH's. Quite impressed with it so far. Reminds me of a cross between JWH-081 and JWH-250 but with a slightly more benzo like feel to it in lower doses. High doses are quite trippy though, akin to a strong sativa. It's making my weed last a lot longer too which is a nice bonus.

I havent been much interested in the synthetic cannabinoid powders after trying a couple of the pre made blends of various ones, as im prone to anxiety/paranoia/general out of control overwhelming thought streams on them, but other people have also said that that UR-144 is the least anxiety/paranoia provoking of all the cannabinoids. Might get some. Will have to learn all about making my own blends or get some 0.000 mg scales though.

 

[scrooloose]

The second generation blends are fucking horrible. I've said this before,but my old favourite was spice,relaxing smoke,very sedating. Having tried and failed to find an alternative to spice,i give up.

These new blends are extremely potent in an extremely unpleasant way. I think the last one i tried was Black Mamba,and not the one from Anne Summers. I had ordered some 'grey area' RC's and was convinced that the postie from the collection office,the one with "that knowing look" had notified the police,that i was a frequent collector of special deliveries and they would be there waiting for me (the police)

They produce an intense paranoic state of mind that lasts about half an hour before tapering off into a more manageable state. Is there ANYTHING that even has similarities to spice anymore?

They are either too weak or mindblowingly strong. Damn i miss Spice original and i only used it realy for sleep. I remember it as having rather pronounced aphrodisiac effects aswell :D

 

[scrooloose]

Ah, codeine linctus. A guaranteed way to get pharmacists to flash you their "fuck off, junkie" eyes.

Ah codiene linctus indeed. Was out on the road delivering overpriced shite,tried 2 chemists in Slough or sluff,first response was an abrupt NO! (AS IN WE DON'T STOCK IT),the second one tried fobbing me off with pholcodine,so that was a no. Third try was in the rather picturesque village of Haselmere. The man said no but i know this branch of pharmacy stock it. So in the end i went into the same branch in my home town BINGO,young lass picked it off the shelf,but the pharmacist poked his head around the corner and asked me a few questions "look mate,i'm a driver and this cough is keeping me awake all night" he replied "but have you tried this..........and that" "i've tried everything and nothing works"

After typing all that out,i am a newbie to codiene linctus.Remember my old man having it about when i lived at home,but never tried a recreational dose. Starters? Or just UTFSE?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

,i am a newbie to codiene linctus.Remember my old man having it about when i lived at home,but never tried a recreational dose. Starters? Or just UTFSE?

Do not take it too fast or you may get a bad histamine reaction - ie turn betroot colour all over with a horrible itch - has happened to me a couple of times. Codeine is pretty weak - you'll probably need 200 - 400 mg of it. (the body cant use more than 400 mg of codeine anyway). I would split your dose into 4 intervals, taken half an hour apart or something. Have some anti histamines on stand by, or take them first!! (that is pretty important). Promethazine is meant to potentiate & compliment codeine according to some.

When i had some codeine linctus i didnt have any prometh, and now ive got hold of some prometh i cant get any more codeine linctus. 8( The Loratedine which i did have at the time did effectively relieve the nasty side effects, even though one proper scientific study i have read about the Loratedine and Codeine combo concluded it doesnt work, my experience is that it does work very effectively in controlling bad reactions. Cheaper than chips from Asda too.

 

[scrooloose]

Do not tae it too fast or you may get a bad histamine reaction - ie turn betroot colour all over and a horrible itch - has happened to me a couple of times. Codeine is pretty weak - you'll probably need 200 - 400 mg of it. (the body cant use more than 400 mg of codeine anyway). I would split your dose into 4 intervals, taken half an hour apart or something. Have some anti histamines on stand by, or take them first!! (that is pretty important). Promethazine is meant to potentiate & compliment codeine according to some.

Thanks for the info mydrugbuddy,and i also have promethazine,result.Also i now know how to spell codEIne.

*i've been a bit 'naughty' and stopped,albeit temporarily my AD'S.Fuck it,it's a long weekend and i'm not sure how they will react with anything recreational. The last three days i have been taking a methylone 'replacement'. Felt like the real deal to me. I MUST STAY OFF THE BOOZE ASWELL.

 

[Mailmonkey]

and was convinced that the postie from the collection office,the one with "that knowing look" had notified the police,that i was a frequent collector of special deliveries and they would be there waiting for me (the police)

There is nothing suspicious about receiving special delivery items in the post.

Its a postal service. Special Delivery is one of many services offered. RM make a shitload of cash from it.