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Shops and schools

It's not about the stickers, it's about schools getting their equipment from private business', public schools run by the government working with the moguls of the industry.
I highly doubt it's a selfless act.
 
DeathDomokun said:
It's not about the stickers, it's about schools getting their equipment from private business', public schools run by the government working with the moguls of the industry.
I highly doubt it's a selfless act.
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oh true i must of missed that.yeah i guess thats pretty fucked up. any way to maake a extra lil $$$ 8(
 
Oh yeah, it's terrible that schools are given equipment that they would otherwise not afford. 8) Local business do the same altruistic favours all the time (corner store, local doctor etc) and people just heap praise. You don't think there is an ulteria motive then? Why is it only terrible when a big business does it?

I used to get a happy meal voucher for being Player of the day at football 30 years ago and no body pissed and moaned then.
 
In the UK, Tesco do something very similar.

The amount of vouchers required to get a school some equipment for free is pretty astronomical. However, it's better than nothing.

I would have a greater concern over junk and snack food manufacturers offering such reimbursements. The UK's highlight being Cadburys offering cheap sports equipment to kids who consumed large amounts of chocolate. See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-178669/Cadburys-scheme-fire.html

Similar schemes have been run by Walker's Crisps.
 
No, I do think there is an ulterior motive. I find it hard to believe they're doing it out of good will. I just feel bad about business moguls mixing with education. I just doesn't seem right to me.
I also think it's different with a sports club, there are different options (pizza hut, dominoes, maccas, sloppy dacks, etc) and a sports club is something you do in your free time to have fun, not something you attend 5/7 days a week for a vast majority of your childhood.
I don't have any proof there's anything wrong about this, nor am I here to come up with conspiracies, I just feel it's wrong and I was wondering if anyone else felt likewise.
Coles and Woolies own <80% of the market. Compare that globally and I'm sure you'll find no other company has that sort of hold over a country.
 
Yeah ColesWorths suck, but its so convenient alot of the time. I've said no a handful of times to those school sticker things in the last week or two, but i imagine parents with kids must be right into it, or a fair few of em anyway.
 
DeathDomokun said:
No, I do think there is an ulterior motive. I find it hard to believe they're doing it out of good will. I just feel bad about business moguls mixing with education. I just doesn't seem right to me.
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Their ulterior motive is to improve the goodwill of the Woolworths/Coles brand. Goodwill = brand preference = Sales.
The ethics of this is a grey area but at least they're putting back into the community, something which lots of multinationals aren't doing at the moment.

Where you draw the line between supporting the community and brainwashing kids is a personal opinion
 
muzby said:
there's a line???

damn...
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I can draw a line between sponsorship for sports equipment and a kid getting their education at a school called Woolworths Primary with "DOWN, DOWN, PRICES ARE DOWN" screaming over the PA system...
 
Why worry about something that might not happen? Woolies and Coles have a huge monopoly because 80% of people are lazy. Fresh fruitnveg and great cuts of meet are found at any number of local farmer's markets for a fraction of the price. UIf you live in the bush you can actually get them straight from the farm. Most other staples, if you were really worried can be order online from any number of other retailers.

Why complain if a large successful company is returning some of their profits to the community? Like some one said, good will is a valuable comodity in any business, does it have to be more complicated a reason than that?
 
Company generates positive PR and goodwill, public school students receive goods and chattels for the purpose improving education or fitness, co-ordination etc in terms of sporting equipment.

Looks like win/win to me.

Coles (as a subsidiary of Wesfarmers Ltd) and Woolworths are two factors of an oligopoly which is a perfect competition scenario. PR is just another way to differentiate their brand.

I'm really struggling to see the conspiracy here, I mean it's hardly the illuminati is it. I can tell you now that when both companies were running a SWOT analysis or whatever marketing metrics they put together prior to launching this, one thing they were hoping for was that a number of students, teachers and parents would favor one company over the other. In the case of a year 7 student, the supermarket is hoping for a future revenue stream.

OK, so there is one so-called ulterior motive. But to believe that you would be also discounting that student's (or the parent and teacher) freedom of choice. That student could just as easily chose to buy all grocery items from small self supported traders for the rest of the students life.

To me it's obvious that the supermarkets have a motive(s) outside of providing equipment to schools, however, to call them ulterior motives only indicates that you are naive to the basics of commerce. The OP's argument implies that these motives are somewhat sinister in nature. If the reality was that the supermarkets were tricking the students into loans that they had to repay then I'd be with you. But as it stands this argument that there is a "sinister" ulterior motive is just silly.
 
it must be targeted to the mums and dads who pay big $$$ every week for there familys shopping, i kinda wish they wouldn't do it, its like really shitty sports equipment in the add and there making so much money any they give a handfull of average sporting equipment to make the dads and mums shop there instead of any were else... there just making it to close, tightening the grip, gaahhhh. Ausie farmers direct is good and any thing else other than coles or woolworths.
 
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