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Regional Heroin Discussion v14: What's the point?

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Thats dreadful about that man, very sorry to hear that. I think most of us have probably felt like packing it all in at some stage during the drought.

Its true, apparently its extremely difficult to score weight in dublin right now. Depending on how much I owe, the main I owe money to only collects when he has more product there and his phone has been off for an entire week now (though I've heard through word of mouth he cant get anything worth taking, however since that hasnt stopped him before - the scene must have actually hit a new level of low).

I know one chap with half-decent, but its nothing in comparison to what he was shifting six weeks ago and since that batch sold out its been failing miserably in delivering anything worth the asking price since. Its ok to shoot, but I dont want to get into that game. I do like it occasionally, but for many more reasons I prefer to smoke - and I never want a physical addiction to this shit again.

I'm really glad I kicked when I did. Truth be told I've had the odd smoke since I shifted the physical symptoms; mainly on my own and quite sparingly really. I met a wonderfully beautiful girl online from the states too, and while its very difficult to feel much if any emotion at the moment - it's given me something other than heroin/depression from lack of heroin to focus on. I reckon I'll fuck it up in no time, but luckily she's come at the right time. Oh happy days :)
 
Yeah Eireann i remember reading the news report, it was posted on Bluelight, back then we were only about 3 or 4 months into the drought, everyone was full sure that the drought would be long over by that summer! There were loads of Irish posters on Bluelight back then. I know that it wasn't a nice thing to say, but a few of us hoped that the overdoses were a sign of the drought ending, sometimes the mind of an addict can be a very selfish thing..... :(

I never got my hands on any of that batch, but one lad who was posting on here from Neilstown managed to get a bit. What was it like? Was it stronger the what was around before the drought? With peoples tolerance been so low it was just a recipe for disaster! :( But we were all so desperate back then! If i had been offered that batch i would have grabbed it! Although at least i only smoke the gear!

I score off a bloke in Crumlin, he is one of the old timers. He was saying to me last week that all of the old dealers that he used to get his gear off before the drought are either locked up or else they got out of the heroin scene coz of the drought. So all those old connections for getting heroin into Ireland have been lost. He said its a whole new load of people who are selling gear in Dublin now & they are all fairly young, in their 20's. Not many of them are heroin users them selves so they can't even test the gear before they buy it, so they get their mates to test the gear & their mates don't seem to have a clue about whats good gear & whats not! I think that is half the problem in Dublin at the moment! Coz the gear looks & burns so perfect people are fooled by it, i don't think things will ever return to normal.

Another thing that bloke i score off said is that if proper heroin came to Ireland again that himself & others would be really nervous selling stronger gear in-case people started going over on it. He said that he wouldn't want someones death on his hands & also the garda wouldn't be long hunting down him or who ever sold the gear. I can understand dealers been nervous of selling strong heroin coz of everyones tolerance been so low, but its got a LOT to do with profit as well, greedy bastards!!!

Although at least the drought has enabled me to get out of debt, i have aways worked & so does my Boyfriend, but when it comes to gear you can never have enough money! So just like you said in an earlier post Eireann we used to end up spending our rent money on gear & bills aways went unpaid! I owed thousands!!! Then just at the same time as the drought hit my landlord got sick of me, he told us to leave! :( But i begged him to stay & i promised to pay back every cent! So luckily because of the drought i was able to start paying back all that i owed! I still haven't paid off all my bills yet but i'm nearly there! :) I reckon that if the drought hadn't come when it did then i was about 2 or 3 weeks away from hitting my rock bottom! I was using more & more gear every day & i would have got kicked out of my house! Ugh! That would have been a nightmare! Its unreal how close i came to loosing it all! The timing of the drought couldn't have been better for me, its uncanny!

So now i hope to follow in your foot steps Eireann & get totally clean, i'm so nearly there! How are you feeling since you got clean? Do you still get cravings for heroin? How long have you been clean & how did you get clean? Are you on methadone? Fair play to you, you really did the right thing!!! :)
Here is news report from that strong batch back in February 2011:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/warning-to-heroin-users-after-four-drug-deaths-145070.html
 
endlessnameless said:
Thats dreadful about that man, very sorry to hear that. I think most of us have probably felt like packing it all in at some stage during the drought.

Its true, apparently its extremely difficult to score weight in dublin right now. Depending on how much I owe, the main I owe money to only collects when he has more product there and his phone has been off for an entire week now (though I've heard through word of mouth he cant get anything worth taking, however since that hasnt stopped him before - the scene must have actually hit a new level of low).

I'm really glad I kicked when I did. Truth be told I've had the odd smoke since I shifted the physical symptoms; mainly on my own and quite sparingly really. I met a wonderfully beautiful girl online from the states too, and while its very difficult to feel much if any emotion at the moment - it's given me something other than heroin/depression from lack of heroin to focus on. I reckon I'll fuck it up in no time, but luckily she's come at the right time. Oh happy days :)
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haha good man i no what your goin threw im 5 months off it and still not right when your on it your terrified of the physical wds but its when they end the real shit starts the only good thing for me is that when i think of heroin it holds no emotion for me anymore which is only very recent but im glad apart of the horrible shit that happend to me on it im fine heroin itself means nothing to me anymore its amazing i just dont want it so stick out dude....you no wat they say the definition of madness is doin the same thing and expecting different results.....keep it up with the american ya never no you could be in the us not having to relive ur past at all by next year
 
Firstly well done for all you oirish for stopping BUT its a different thing stopping cos you have to compared to stopping cos you want to - I would be willing to bet that the majority of those that have stopped would soon pick up again if good gear made its way to you - No critisism intended I would do exactly the same - been there, away from gear in the middle of nowhere, as soon as i found it i was bang at it again, this was in the middle of somerset where i found some travellers who were all on it and i bought hash the 1st 2 times then when i saw the works on a table that was it - a daily 5 mile bike ride to score.
 
Agreed. I know quite well my first cold turkey was circumstantial, thus enforced. I recall wasting up to 700euro during the peak of the drought (and I really dont care if anyone wasted 'double that') but it sure as fuck didn't stop me nor my friend walking every fucking street in dublin looking for the oh so elusive even after every single one of our physical symptoms were gone. The fact is, good gear is just too fucking good to turn down. Certainly not worth the physical habit though, but there's ways of avoiding that.

And you know what, I'm off out to score. I've been sitting in most of the week looking for jobs online as the cash that I owed out for last monday still hasn't been collected yet and I've been afraid to score in case I get the call and I dont have the money, but fuck it I cant fucking wait in any longer. I think if he could hold out till now without collecting then why cant he hold out till monday. Probably going to regret this but fuck it man, its the heat of the moment...and my insomnias back.
 
endlessnameless said:
Agreed. I know quite well my first cold turkey was circumstantial, thus enforced. I recall wasting up to 700euro during the peak of the drought (and I really dont care if anyone wasted 'double that') but it sure as fuck didn't stop me nor my friend walking every fucking street in dublin looking for the oh so elusive even after every single one of our physical symptoms were gone. The fact is, good gear is just too fucking good to turn down. Certainly not worth the physical habit though, but there's ways of avoiding that.

And you know what, I'm off out to score. I've been sitting in most of the week looking for jobs online as the cash that I owed out for last monday still hasn't been collected yet and I've been afraid to score in case I get the call and I dont have the money, but fuck it I cant fucking wait in any longer. I think if he could hold out till now without collecting then why cant he hold out till monday. Probably going to regret this but fuck it man, its the heat of the moment...and my insomnias back.
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my insomnias back to slept like 8hrs in 3days i wont turn to d gear or any drug....once u turn to gear today ur a slave all over again dude.....ructions the stuff dat came from tallaght was paid to guy as part payment for a debt he sat on it for months during d drought as he was affraid to sell it he wasnt a heroin dealer it wuda got u fuckd even during pre drought times it was snow white and fluffy it felt like i was gona od and i just smoked it

im doin well no cravings at all i caused so many problems on gear that no amount of drugs are gona make em go away im at peace with gear now i c it for wat it is....ITS LIKE A SHIT BEST FRIEND ITL TELL YOU WHAT U WANT TO HEAR BUT STAB U IN THE BACK THE SECOND HE GETS A CHANCE

i hope you totally get clean u seem like a nice person from ur posts same to u endlessnameless
 
I never saw this report before, i don't know how i missed it??? It says the Worlds biggest ever heroin seizer happened in Afghanistan in August 2010!!! That was 2 months before the drought hit. 8o They said the heroin was headed to Europe, it says that there was enough heroin seized to supply 30% of the UK's heroin for Year!!! 8( Holy crap, thats a lot of gear! £700 million worth!

I know that wouldn't be the whole reason for the drought, but it certainly would have added to it! 25/30% of the UK's heroin wiped out for a year! & then if there was a poppy blight along with the floods in Pakistan then i can see the whole picture starting to come together! Still doesn't explain why bloody Ireland is still dry?

I saw a report on another big heroin seize that happened this week, tonnes of the stuff was seized going from Afghanistan to Russia, the Russians are taking all the gear!!! AHhhhh!!!!!! :!

Here is a link to the worlds largest heroin seizer in Afghanistan, August 2010:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/839114-700million-of-heroin-seized-in-worlds-biggest-haul

Afghan heroin seized on way to Russia:
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_05_16/74884347/
 
yes ructions russia china and the middle easts populations are now just rich enough to buy all the gear which the suppliers love as its easier to smuggle it in to those countries

the price will go up and up from the new competition too
 
I said this a long time ago, that the the countries with land borders are gobbling up all the gear, Iran has a million addicts alone, russia has a huge amount and places like uzbekistan,tajistan and all the other stans let alone the afghani's and the pakistanis. On top of that UK is one of the hardest places to land contrabrand so why take the risk? at the source its 600-1000 a k so even selling it cheaper nearer to 'home' the margin is still in the 100's of %'s.
If it was going to come in by the tonne like it use to then it would have happened by now- it still might but right now i reckon its multiple kilos thats why there is so many different types of gear around the country Ive been getting three really nice ones in the last 2-3 weeks- a pale very powdery one almost like talcum, a darker one which was 'gritty' and a beige one in rocks all this is in london so fuk knows what its like in other parts of the country.
 
does anyone remember the light orange gear with black specks in it,it was hard as chalk??? it was lethal i was getting bottles of it on tick i still o that guy a fortune haha wouldnt mind hes a dangerous cunt.....when i came off the gear i listend to damien dempsys song serious its an amazing anti gear song will yas listen to it and tell me what yas think????
 
The profits involved in the importation into this country are presumably huge compared to those companies. The invisible hand would surely prioritise countries willing to pay the most if there's limited supply.
 
blondin said:
If it was going to come in by the tonne like it use to then it would have happened by now-
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Yep thats the way i feel too Blondin. We're coming up to a second harvest now, if last years harvest didn't make it to Ireland then why would this years harvest make it? All of the old contacts for people getting gear into the country are gone, its just dead in the water!

I lost all hope of things improving a long time ago, i used to hope every time that i scored that this time i'd score good but it never happened. I used to get excited when mates would tell me that they knew were to get good gear, i used to think maybe they are getting good! But every time i tried what they were using it was just always the same old crap! A girl i know from the clinic was going on & on for weeks about this great gear she was getting just outside Dublin (Co. Wicklow) i wanted to try it but my Boyfriend said she was just spoofing again. But last week i gave in & got some, luckily i only got two €20 bags, & guess what?! it turned out to be the same old crap, in fact it was worse then what i was getting! I said to her that it was crap & her story was that her dealer had just changed his batch that Very day!!! She reckoned he'd had good gear the day before! Hehehe! She is so dumb, but she must think i'm dumb too if she thinks i believe her stories, coz she's used that same excuse countless times! She sits in the clinic week after week telling everyone that she is getting really strong gear in Wicklow, & then any time someone travels all the way out to Wicklow to score with her she pretends that her dealer just got a bad batch that day! Why do people do that? Do they really think the gear is good? Or does it make the feel good to pretend their getting good gear? I will never fully understand it?! I'm not wasting anymore money on recommendations from stupid people like her! Guess its my own fault for letting myself get fooled more then once! Doh!

A lot of people have become clean & now i wanna go that way too! There is nothing worth scoring over here! If i stop wasting money on bash then i could save up & go to lovely London for a weekend, i have a mate living over there who uses gear so i'd be able to score, it seems like the only way! Coz its never gonna turn up over here!

Hi Eireann! :) I don't know the song that your talking about? What is it called? Maybe you could post a link & we could have a listen! :)
 
oh ructions youtube damien dempsey [serious] it couldnt be more dublin its class as a dub ul relate to even more than me chose the vid thats recorded not the live recordns
 
A relatively cheerful letter from Kat. Seems to have settled in well, gets her methadone o.k. and is on a 'drug free' wing. ( if they counted meth or other scripted stuff, they wouldn't be able to fill the cells. ) A pair of her trainers got lost and she's amused to find the (private) prison will not only replace them but also offer a small sum in compensation. As she says, it's been a long time since she ate three meals every day and. with a colour tv and her own 'room', finds in some respects she's more free in the slammer than on the outside. Lummee, bears no relation to the hard-time boobs of my youth, where junkies were tossed into a bare cell to suffer their withdrawals. Should be out on a tag next March. She misses her internet and is anxious to know what's happening on here so, if you've a spare few minutes, do drop her a line. Once the novelty wears off, the time will start to drag and communication with the outside grows increasingly more important. Still, good to hear she's handling it well.

An interesting article about making naloxene more freely available because of its usefulness in the case of overdoses; if you keel over and one of your companions can give you a shot of it, your chances of being alive when the paramedics arrive is much higher than it is otherwise. Of course, objections are raised by the 'it'll encourage 'em to take drugs' squad, who seem blind to how their efforts to discourage drug use have resulted in a 300-fold increase in heroin user numbers since the abandonment of Rolleston. More curiously, it is said that, if this lifesaving antidote is entrusted to drug users, they'll ' use it as a weapon in their fights.' What? '' Gimme a fix or I'll stick you with instant withdrawals? '' Like " if their customers got their drugs on prescription, pushers would have to sell their stocks to kiddies ", you couldn't make some of this stuff up. Keep on rocking in Freedonia.

[edit] for full article, see The Guardian web site - not sure of the exact date but in the last few days.
 
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Yep thats the way i feel too Blondin. We're coming up to a second harvest now, if last years harvest didn't make it to Ireland then why would this years harvest make it? All of the old contacts for people getting gear into the country are gone, its just dead in the water!

I lost all hope of things improving a long time ago, i used to hope every time that i scored that this time i'd score good but it never happened. I used to get excited when mates would tell me that they knew were to get good gear, i used to think maybe they are getting good! But every time i tried what they were using it was just always the same old crap! A girl i know from the clinic was going on & on for weeks about this great gear she was getting just outside Dublin (Co. Wicklow) i wanted to try it but my Boyfriend said she was just spoofing again. But last week i gave in & got some, luckily i only got two €20 bags, & guess what?! it turned out to be the same old crap, in fact it was worse then what i was getting! I said to her that it was crap & her story was that her dealer had just changed his batch that Very day!!! She reckoned he'd had good gear the day before! Hehehe! She is so dumb, but she must think i'm dumb too if she thinks i believe her stories, coz she's used that same excuse countless times! She sits in the clinic week after week telling everyone that she is getting really strong gear in Wicklow, & then any time someone travels all the way out to Wicklow to score with her she pretends that her dealer just got a bad batch that day! Why do people do that? Do they really think the gear is good? Or does it make the feel good to pretend their getting good gear? I will never fully understand it?! I'm not wasting anymore money on recommendations from stupid people like her! Guess its my own fault for letting myself get fooled more then once! Doh!

A lot of people have become clean & now i wanna go that way too! There is nothing worth scoring over here! If i stop wasting money on bash then i could save up & go to lovely London for a weekend, i have a mate living over there who uses gear so i'd be able to score, it seems like the only way! Coz its never gonna turn up over here!

Hi Eireann! :) I don't know the song that your talking about? What is it called? Maybe you could post a link & we could have a listen! :)
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Did you give her a square up for getting for you? If I get for someone who's not a mate I expect a square up. Sounds like she's fishing for punters for some free kit.

@ Ann: Are you not on any script? A dose of Meth' is better than the insomnia. I've cut myself down to 10ml now.
 
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Did you give her a square up for getting for you? If I get for someone who's not a mate I expect a square up. Sounds like she's fishing for punters for some free kit.
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That is exactly what my Boyfriend said! I think yous could be right! The last time i scored with her i waited till the last minute to say that i was broke & i couldn't afford to get her a bag, i told her if the gear was as good as she claimed that i'd be back tomorrow when i got paid & i'd buy more for myself & i'd get 2 bags for her to say thanx! But after testing the gear & realizing that it was worse then what i was already getting i obviously didn't go back! So she didn't make off me this time!!! ;)

But yeah i think your right Trip2themoon, she's after a free bag for herself, but as well as that she just loves letting on that she can get good gear! She loves to slag off people from Dublin saying that the gear we are getting is crap while the gear in Wicklow is amazing! Very childish really, she probably has mental issues! The way she goes on about the gear you'd swear that she grows the poppies herself & turns it into heroin!!! Hehehe! But its just more of the same old crappy gear!!!
 
ructions said:
That is exactly what my Boyfriend said! I think yous could be right! The last time i scored with her i waited till the last minute to say that i was broke & i couldn't afford to get her a bag, i told her if the gear was as good as she claimed that i'd be back tomorrow when i got paid & i'd buy more for myself & i'd get 2 bags for her to say thanx! But after testing the gear & realizing that it was worse then what i was already getting i obviously didn't go back! So she didn't make off me this time!!! ;)

But yeah i think your right Trip2themoon, she's after a free bag for herself, but as well as that she just loves letting on that she can get good gear! She loves to slag off people from Dublin saying that the gear we are getting is crap while the gear in Wicklow is amazing! Very childish really, she probably has mental issues! The way she goes on about the gear you'd swear that she grows the poppies herself & turns it into heroin!!! Hehehe! But its just more of the same old crappy gear!!!
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LOL, if you can't get in the big cities why would it be better in the small towns and villages? I wonder how old her habit is?
 
trip in ireland drugs are usually processed in the small towns around dublin anytimes massive heroin bust occur in ireland its usually in transit on its way to dublin in surrounding counties like kildare and meath when leaders of big dublin drug gang tend to move away from dublin either for safety or to try and stay out of the dublin gardai sights so if you find a dealer down the country with high up contacts you could get amazing gear in the country pre-drought times as it was less likely to have passed threw less hands so was less likely to have been danced on....but thats the past since the drought you could only get weight in dublin....that might have changed now tho i dont no anymore

http://youtube/damiendempsey/serious

http://youtube/damiendempsey/serious a must listen to for heroin and former heroin users
 
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