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2-FMA (75mg total) - first time - Comparisons with other stimulants

bluedolphin

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Hello, I'll skip most of the introduction and all that as I'd rather just get to the point and describe the effects of this relatively new substance.

My history with stimulants is as follows: MDMA, MDA, MDEA, bk-MDMA, 4-MMC, dextroamphetamine, adderall, methamphetamine, propylamphetamine, trans-4-mar, cocaine, MDPV, and MDPPP

At least I think that's all of them. Close enough, anyway.

So I got some 2-FMA after hearing it's a fairly potent (by weight) and clean stimulant. I don't even like stimulants, in spite of how many I've done. It hasn't been my thing for quite some time. Either way, it was cheap and sounded like something I could either try and enjoy or give away if I didn't like it.

First attempt was 15mg insufflated on an evening that I had also been doing a bit of MXE. This combination sucked, and sort of stressed me out and made my heart beat a little fast. So I decided if I do any more 2-FMA I better just do it on it's own.

So then one morning I decided I'd give it a go on a work day. I decided to start with 15mg insufflated... and over the course of the next 6 hours at work I repeated that dose 4 more times.

I found that after maybe 45mg it was about as strong as 10-15mg dexamphetamine in terms of focus... in terms of euphoria it was closer to propylamphetamine.

I found it easy on the heart and cardio system, with not much increase in heart rate or blood pressure. Some mild sweating in the armpits but not much.

It seems like a nicely prosexual drug but not anymore than dexedrine. Certainly not as crazy as methamphetamine or 4-MMC or even MDPV in that department.

Primary effects seem to last 3-5 hours and then it tails off. Not leaving me feeling cracked out or geeked out. Coming down off pure dexedrine is more noticeable. This is more similar to propylamphetamine or small doses of trans-4-mar in that it is pretty smooth feeling overall... somewhat "transparent" compared to harder stimulants.

Which IMO is a good thing. I absolutely detest cocaine, methamphetamine, and drugs like MDMA/MDA/4-MMC are something I wouldn't do anymore because they just don't feel good like they used to. Too taxing on the mind and body as well.

My last dose of 2-FMA was probably around 3:00PM, and the first one was 9:00AM. During which time I consumed probably 75mg. I had no trouble falling asleep by midnight and probably could have slept a couple hours earlier if I drank some booze or took a benzo or something. But this was not nescessary.

I feel like the potency of this drug has been overrated especially in early reports and rumors about it. However it does live up to it's reputation as a very smooth stimulant that seems relatively easy on the mind and body. Would probably be a good one for people with ADD.

One thing I must note, it did have one significant side effect for me. I had to take like 8 shits that days. I don't think even adderall or coke would make me shit so much.

Would I recommend it? Not really. But if you are looking for a stimulant that could substitute for something like dexedrine I expect you won't find anything better than this.

Also I'm not sure why I decided to snort it. Probably because I figured it would be easier to titrate the dose. It did not burn at all, but has a mild but still pretty nasty drip. Nothing an experienced drug user should have any reason to whine about.
 
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Thank you very much for writing up this report. There are not that many reports out there, even fewer decent reports. It is a shame you have not trailed any of the other floro-amphetamines.

I am not familiar with propylamphetamine and I would quite like a reference for the euphoria of this drug. Could you compare it with MDMA/bk-MDMA/4-MMC as out of the stims you have done I have tried those.


I was really hyped up about trying 2-fma, but I think I will instead opt for 2-FA after reading this report.
 
Propylamphetamine is almost as potent as Dextroamphetamine but somewhat less taxing in terms of peripheral side effects. It is quite as "euphoric", I guess, but close. Propylamphetamine, in my opinion, is the ultimate utilitarian amphetamine.

I'd like to see that one become available again. That shit was rare and hard to come by even when it was around.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/376525-N-propylamphetamine

So yes, as you can see, comparing 2-FMA to propylamphetamine is nothing short of a compliment.

I would like to see how 2-FA compares. I have no desire to sample 4-FMA or 4-FA as from what I have heard they are not the kind of clean, transparent, yet effective stimulant experience that I would prefer.

In my opinion, actually, low doses of Methoxetamine is actually my preferred stimulant. I can see using 2-FMA on days when I needed that extra degree of focus... but low dose MXE gives me more "hypomania" I guess, which to me feels like a natural form of mental and physical stimulation, without feeling like it's pushed or forced by a speedy-feeling drug with all the typical amphetamine side effects.

edit: I take that back... trans-4-mar, in low and responsible doses, might be slightly better than propylamphetamine. Very transparent on the body, long lasting with no noticeable or depressive sort of decline, no grinding of teeth or other forms of sketch (at reasonable doses). However this one can also be a whole LOT of fun if you take a serious dose and then you could get yourself into trouble in terms of maintaining a reasonable lifestyle.
 
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i have done 2-fma about 4 times now from the same RC place. I find that the experience is quite differant depending on how you take it. At first i insulflated it. This produced a rather speedy effect with similar side affects compareable to Adderall around the 60mg level. the come down for me was between an hour and 1.5 hours before i had to redose. It did burn a little when insulflating but any experienced drug user shouldnt have much complaint.
I just got more about 3 hours ago and decided to parachute it. keep in mind that i do not have a mg scale, so i had to eye out what i was taking. first dose was around 100mg's in my professional opinion. this produced the inital affects of other amphets but not as bad, like twitching, hand shaking, stomache a little weird, and i dunno if everyone gets backaches on stims but i do, and bad. This actually has a calming effect at first when taking orally. was quite a different, and enjoyable, feeling.
2 hours in and i redosed at about 200 mgs maybe a tad less. still waiting for that to kick in, but i would reccomend trying this RC orally, its a very cool experience.
 
Propylamphetamine is almost as potent as Dextroamphetamine but somewhat less taxing in terms of peripheral side effects. It is quite as "euphoric", I guess, but close. Propylamphetamine, in my opinion, is the ultimate utilitarian amphetamine.

I'd like to see that one become available again. That shit was rare and hard to come by even when it was around.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/376525-N-propylamphetamine

So yes, as you can see, comparing 2-FMA to propylamphetamine is nothing short of a compliment.

I would like to see how 2-FA compares. I have no desire to sample 4-FMA or 4-FA as from what I have heard they are not the kind of clean, transparent, yet effective stimulant experience that I would prefer.

In my opinion, actually, low doses of Methoxetamine is actually my preferred stimulant. I can see using 2-FMA on days when I needed that extra degree of focus... but low dose MXE gives me more "hypomania" I guess, which to me feels like a natural form of mental and physical stimulation, without feeling like it's pushed or forced by a speedy-feeling drug with all the typical amphetamine side effects.


edit: I take that back... trans-4-mar, in low and responsible doses, might be slightly better than propylamphetamine. Very transparent on the body, long lasting with no noticeable or depressive sort of decline, no grinding of teeth or other forms of sketch (at reasonable doses). However this one can also be a whole LOT of fun if you take a serious dose and then you could get yourself into trouble in terms of maintaining a reasonable lifestyle.
Damn, I want to try propylamphetamine now.




4-FA is more like a methbomb roll, but cleaner than meth imo. Depending on the quality of course. Not utilitarian at all (4-FA), but absurdly euphoric... skin and even brain crawling. -The works.
 
yeah propylamphetamatamine was the shit, for sure... as if I'll ever get to see that one again... ;)
 
Bluedolphin I swear you and I are psychically connected in someway, I have this one on my list of goodies literally in first place. I wish I knew your astrological information as it would be interesting to see how our natal charts interact.

I think it's obvious from my candor of the gratitude I extend to you for this entry, I'll defer to it exclusively in terms of cataloging my own experience when and if the situation should arise.

-Thou
 
Damn, I want to try propylamphetamine now.
I tried it and liked it. It was, as stated, highly functional. Good stuff. Still, I think 2-FA is the most lucid centrally active amphetamine out there, and it's more available right now. Different strokes is all. Maybe you missed out, maybe you didn't. No way to tell.
 
Bluedolphin I swear you and I are psychically connected in someway, I have this one on my list of goodies literally in first place. I wish I knew your astrological information as it would be interesting to see how our natal charts interact.

I think it's obvious from my candor of the gratitude I extend to you for this entry, I'll defer to it exclusively in terms of cataloging my own experience when and if the situation should arise.

-Thou

Saggitarius
 
I tried it and liked it. It was, as stated, highly functional. Good stuff. Still, I think 2-FA is the most lucid centrally active amphetamine out there, and it's more available right now. Different strokes is all. Maybe you missed out, maybe you didn't. No way to tell.
More so than 2-FMA I take it then?
 
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