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The EADD Mental Health Support Thread

Just incase this triggers anyone, I'll NSFW it...
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Been in a right state all night. Tried not drinking but don't have enough Benzos to quieten the cravings.
So drank a bit, not enough, but my Pancreas would say "too much".

So, in the most excellent of decisions, I found my knife and my wet stone, ritualistically sharpened the knife and have cut my upper forearm about 8 times.
I'm feeling comfortably numb. I just hope it lasts.
 
Oh monsta. I don't have any personal experience of that sort of thing, I can only guess why you'd do it. If you want to talk, let's talk! If you don't, please stay safe! <3
 
Monsta <3

I can certainly relate... thankfully not these last coupla years really but have an inkling. I also have an inkling that there's usually not much to say that will necessarily help at such times... but know that you're far from alone in such matters and plenty here can surely relate and understand in their own way.

We all know I'm shite at PMs and stuff but hopefully you also know my PM box is always open <3
 
Thankyou everyone <3

Sorry, I was just in that post-harming-detached-numbness that follows.
I'll be ok.

It's... It's just been so long since I've done this, but it's not surprising that I did. I was emotionally wound up like a fucking spring and needed any form of release. And because the substances I usually use weren't available I turned to the only thing I knew that "helps".

Anyway, again - I thank you all. And I'll be ok.

<3 Love to you all <3
 
Glad to see you back and full o' <3<3<3's, Monsta <3

Was actually a-ponderin' upon that very selfsame subject of self-abuse meself just this very morning. Not in a planning-stage kinda way so much as it just striking me outta the blue how long it's been. Can only speak for meself but can say that kinda thing was a way of life for many, many years (since before me balls dropped as I recalled earlier which I'd actually forgotten about) but the... outbreaks do seem to get farther and farther apart as the years go by. Not so much cos my self or situation has improved greatly so much as... I dunno why really... it just does. And will for you too <3
 
i need some advice guys.. Iv been battling what i have self diagnosed "depression" for over a year now. I know its mainly down to my unbalenced life-style, taking drugs and a few other things. i have an appointment with my doctor later but im thinking of not going because i know i wont fully open up about my drug use which will not help the doctor to help me.

I understand that if i stop using drugs or at least cut down i will feel better but i dont feel that is practical at this stage as iv just got off for summer. So whould i go to the doctor and not fully open up about my drug use etc and be perscribed something that probably wont benefit me? or should i just try to take it easy and see how things pan out?

this post is seeming more and more pointless the more I type but any feedback or shared experiences would be much appreciated!
 
headfuck123 said:
I know its mainly down to my unbalenced life-style, taking drugs and a few other things.
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We can all blame the drugs, but what is the cause of your unbalanced life-style? Why take so many drugs? Other people go through life without even considering drugs. Or they take them sometimes but most of the time not.

It's possible that it is the drugs, of course! Maybe you just thought it was OK to take them to excess and it turned out it wasn't. Your doctor may even tell you that it's the drugs. Doctors generally do not have the time to investigate the underlying causes of our unhappiness. They're not fucking miracle workers, after all ;) so it is much easier for them to blame the drugs, and tell you to cut them out. Then maybe prescribe you different drugs! :D

My self-diagnosed depression hit a peak at the same time as my drug use. I can fairly confidently say the drugs are not the root cause! I was self-medicating.

I cut out the drugs, and I stopped drinking. For a week, then I spoke to my GP. It wasn't easy to get hold of my GP. In fact if it was left up to me I would have given up trying. My cousin forced the issue. It's useful to have family members who are also in the caring professions, particularly the psychiatric variety! But I'm probably unusual in that regard.

Anyway, what I'm saying is, I don't know the specifics of your case but there's a good chance that drugs are not the underlying cause. Self-medicating can help for a while. In the long run, though, the underlying cause needs sorted out.

The GP probably can't help with the underlying cause, unless it's a straightforward chemical imbalance. You probably need to speak to someone. Your GP can refer you to a counsellor of some kind. Personally, I decided the waiting list for NHS psychologists to be ridiculously long and arranged therapy privately. I am so glad I did, it is fantastic. But hopefully waiting lists in your area are not as bad.
i have an appointment with my doctor later but im thinking of not going because i know i wont fully open up about my drug use which will not help the doctor to help me.

I understand that if i stop using drugs or at least cut down i will feel better but i dont feel that is practical at this stage as iv just got off for summer. So whould i go to the doctor and not fully open up about my drug use etc and be perscribed something that probably wont benefit me? or should i just try to take it easy and see how things pan out?

this post is seeming more and more pointless the more I type but any feedback or shared experiences would be much appreciated!
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Go to your appointment. Get a referral. What have you got to lose?

PS If your doc prescribes you more drugs, that may or may not work for you. It is working for me, in the short term, while I get the underlying issues sorted out.

Whatever you do, don't leave without a psychiatric/psychology referral. Drugs buy you time but you don't want to take them for ever.
 
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^ I was going to come and post here but knock said it all really <3

Mental health is so multifactorial. It's best to explore all the avenues you can I think.
 
I tend to be of the opinion that honesty is generally the best policy when talking to doctors. If you hold stuff back you're just making their job harder and if you try to bullshit them they can usually tell and are less inclined to help (at least in my experience). Unfortunately some docs have a massive blindspot when dealing with drug users and can't seem to see beyond that side of things. If you have a good relationship with your GP it's a massive help though.

May also be worth looking into some form of drug counselling. Even if you don't feel your drug use is necessarily a big problem for you at the moment, drug support services are usually very familiar with the mental health concerns that can often accompany drug use and can offer good advice and referrals to other support services that may well be of use to you. My drug support workers have been a massive help to me over the years - far more so than my doctors have been to be honest as it's a more informal relationship and you get a lot more time at appointments to discuss stuff wot needs discussing. Services vary around the country, and some are definitely much better than others, but it may well be worth looking into.
 
thanks for the replys everyone! i guess you gave me the advice that i subconciously already knew was right but i didnt want to take it on board and deal with it. il go to the appointment but i have a feeling il pussy out of talking about drugs and end up trying to blame it on stress and other porblems (even though i should talk about drugs). Well at least ill make the first step!

i have a feeling he may already have an idea about my drug use because i went to see him about the surgery that needs done on my septum and he asked "have you had any trauma to your nose?" which i replied "eh no". i know he isnt stupid but i feel if i discuss my habbits then he will see me in a different way and help me less.
 
ah fs i ended up completely avoiding the topic of drug taking. The only thing i was advised was councelling or if it doesnt work, anti-depressants. my own fault i suppose but at least i have discussed some things with my Dr.
 
^ you've made the first step and that is often the hardest :) it's really not easy to say everything you want to in a short appt with a doc you probably don't know v well, especially something like drugs.. you could look around to see if there is counselling (drugs or otherwise) offered by an agency not the nhs? there are a few in my city.

a good doctor won't judge you for your drugs use, they'll have seen it all before and should be entirely non-judgemental. all are not like that :| but you're within your rights to shop around and find another gp if you are not happy.. good luck with it :) <3 often just doing something can be a huge help..

i'm not having a fun week. drugs-crash but also hit hard by grief again. hide under duvet time..
 
So you're avoiding telling your doctor about your drug taking in case it makes them think less of you?

It's not a doctor's place to be morally judgemental. Obviously they're human and have opinions! But a doctor's judgement shouldn't really be a patient's concern.

If they help you less because they think you're of low morals, then they're in the wrong, and you should probably find a new doctor.

Why do you stick with this one if you think they'll judge you? What makes you think they'll judge you?

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effie said:
^ you've made the first step and that is often the hardest :) it's really not easy to say everything you want to in a short appt with a doc you probably don't know v well, especially something like drugs.. you could look around to see if there is counselling (drugs or otherwise) offered by an agency not the nhs? there are a few in my city.

a good doctor won't judge you for your drugs use, they'll have seen it all before and should be entirely non-judgemental. all are not like that :| but you're within your rights to shop around and find another gp if you are not happy.. good luck with it :) <3 often just doing something can be a huge help..

i'm not having a fun week. drugs-crash but also hit hard by grief again. hide under duvet time..
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thanks, im glad iv at least discussed it with my Dr and he seems sound enough. He discussed possible options for me but didnt force anything. Since i dont feel that bad atm i'll just take it easy for a while and see if that helps and if not il most liekly go with his suggestion of counselling
 
Unhappy and depressed are not synonyms. One is a state of being, the other a chemical imbalance of the brain. The first is more common, the second more commonly claimed. Depression may be treated with drugs, prescription or otherwise, unhappiness by either a change of personal circumstances or recourse to the 'all life is suffering' school of philosophy.

Forget everything you've been told and think for yourself. It's usually the best, and often the only way through. Know which 'problems' are actually yours, and of those which are of your own making. The 'solutions' may then become apparent, if not always easy to implement. Be of good and courageous heart and it'll be all right on the night, which, really, is all that matters,
 
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Unhappy and depressed are not synonyms. One is a state of being, the other a chemical imbalance of the brain.
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I know what you're saying. The medical profession can make a diagnosis of depression and this is not the same as having a shit time.

I'd like to unpick this a bit more though.

You say that unhappiness is a state of being, while depression is a chemical imbalance of the brain. It's worth remembering that any emotional experience is mediated by chemicals in the brain. "Ordinary" emotions, and those emotions which occur as part of what we call "mental illness", are expressed via the same mechanisms. I'd like to emphasise this because I think sometimes when the distinction is drawn between unhappiness and clinical depression, the similarities are missed.

I'd also like to note that the word depression has been, to an extent, hijacked by the medical profession. You say it is not a synonym for unhappiness, and yes, that's true, unhappy doesn't have quite the same connotations as depressed. My OED defines depression as "melancholy, low spirits, dejection". Well, it gives several definitions but that's one of them. So while depressed is not a synonym for unhappy, it is in fact OK to use it in everyday discussion to confer a severity and perhaps a prolonged duration of unhappiness that the word unhappy alone does not.

So what am I getting at... Sometimes people say they're depressed and someone will say "you're not depressed, you're just unhappy". That's wrong, because in common parlance depression does not mean clinical depression. It just means generally and deeply unhappy.

I'm making an issue of this because this can come across as dismissive, and I think that's wrong, because someone who is generally and deeply unhappy for circumstantial reasons is just as entitled to support as someone who is suffering from clinical depression.

I also think that there is a crossover between severe unhappiness and clinical depression, in that unhappy feelings can become self-perpetuating, in a way that is out of proportion to, or unsynchronised with, life events. Such inappropriate unhappiness can be just as debilitating and worthy of intervention as clinical depression.
 
The doctor that i usually see when i have 'issues' is retiring. He's not even my official doctor,but was always referred to him in bleak times,he listened. :(

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

feeling antsy,isn't sobriety wonderful :\, for the sake of sanity i suppose it could be :|

Must get a hobby,stamp collecting,nailing dead exotic butterflies to walls or something............................
 
I'm glad that this Thread has got the respect and dues that i set out to try and do when i started it .

It's always hard to do a serious thread in EADD & when i started this i was really ill & tbh the thread made it worse i was so close to just deleting it (Honestly )

I didn't because i thought that would be selfish and i still had hope that it would work out like i had originally planned.

Well not really planned but i thought we ( Us Europeans ) needed a place that was safe to post in where you won't get judged for one of the most controversial of topics and hardest to open up on .

Obviously it would be great if no one posted n we were all dandy 24/7 but thats never gonna be true among a community of drug Users.

Anyway just wanted to say that &

Much <3 to all that have posted in here good init :)
 
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