Vaporizing 2-FMA, build up on lungs and humidifiers...

[DexterMeth]

(Mods, move to OD or BDD if need be)


So the thought just occurred to me. If one were vaporizing 2-FMA, and then ran a humidifier, with water vapor out the top, inhaling this indoors, would any 2-FMA (as well as amp/meth) build-up on the lungs dissolve, and possibly even get into your bloodstream?

Are amps in general so water hygroscopic that there is not any real build-up from smoking them in the first place? I'm not talking large amounts btw, as like what your standard "tweaker" might smoke in an all day/night session, especially since I'm on piracetam now.

 

[FlippingTop]

I would have thought that your lungs were moist enough to dissolve any remaining 2-FMA without a humidifier running.

 

[sekio]

Are amps in general so water hygroscopic that there is not any real build-up from smoking them in the first place?

This, it is a myth that meth/amphetamines "recrystallize" in the lungs. Amph salts & freebase will rapidly distribute themselves from the lungs into the blood & body.

 

[DexterMeth]

Much thanks to you sir.

What then is the problem with vaporizing meth/amps?

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I'm not going to delete this thread. I think it's helpful to have around, but perhaps it could go in another forum? You have answered my question.

 

[sekio]

Meth/amphetamine vapour is usually amphetamine freebase, pyrolysis products & hydrochloric acid (as normally the HCl salt is smoked), all of which are not exactly friendly to the delicate tissue of the lungs, throat, teeth, etc.

In addition, the vapour is hot and is usually inhaled fairly deep into the lungs causing the usual thermal damage, also seen in heroin/pill smokers. Cannabis smoke on the other hand has the advantage that THC & other cannabinoids seem to limit lung damage somewhat & are anticarcinogenic.

Really the issue is that smoking most anything is unhealthy for you.

* Do remember your lungs are coated in mucuos which contains surfactant protiens that basically act like soap & the mucus (should) keep your lungs very moist all the time.

 

[DexterMeth]

Interesting

Am I wrong here, or can meth/amp smoke actually be lower in temp than combusting marijuana plants?
I've been taking TINY hits of 2-FMA spaced out, vaporizing, and drinking water and swishing after each hit. This doesn't avoid damage to the teeth at all I take it. Perhaps some fluoride is in the works now.

Is there really any sense in taking small hits many times versus a few big hits spaced out even further? I'm speaking specifically about teeth, throat and lung damage, as well as possibly gums?.. ya, "etc." should suffice here.

 

[Dr. Drugs]

It's my understanding that much of the tooth decay seen in stimulant abuse is due to the dry mouth (xerostomia) they cause, regardless of ROA. In the case of meth, I also suspect that the caustic contaminants left in the final product of amateur synthesis accelerate the decay. This could mean NaOH, NH3, or any number of other nasty chemicals that you don't want in your mouth. However, I wouldn't expect these contaminants in professionally-synthed 2-FMA. If you think the 2-FMA smoke is caustic, then consider brushing your teeth after using.

Otherwise, remember to stay hydrated and keep your mouth moist while on any stim. Gum or moist fruit can help. This is the best way to avoid stimulant-induced tooth decay.

 

[nuke]

Interesting

Am I wrong here, or can meth/amp smoke actually be lower in temp than combusting marijuana plants?
I've been taking TINY hits of 2-FMA spaced out, vaporizing, and drinking water and swishing after each hit. This doesn't avoid damage to the teeth at all I take it. Perhaps some fluoride is in the works now.

Is there really any sense in taking small hits many times versus a few big hits spaced out even further? I'm speaking specifically about teeth, throat and lung damage, as well as possibly gums?.. ya, "etc." should suffice here.

You're smoking vaguely researched experimental amphetamines... The partially combusted particulate matter isn't really safe or healthy, but I'd be more worried about the unknown effects of using the drug often in general.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I'd choose a different ROA; vaporization of methamphetamine is awful tasting, the last time I did it.

Tell me, does 2-FMA taste much better?

 

[DexterMeth]

^About the same

You're smoking vaguely researched experimental amphetamines... The partially combusted particulate matter isn't really safe or healthy, but I'd be more worried about the unknown effects of using the drug often in general.

Agreed.

I am no longer using it. It browns up very quickly too.
I guess recrystalization would help in this respect, but I'm no longer looking to find out.

 

[Jakeperson]

I'd choose a different ROA; vaporization of methamphetamine is awful tasting, the last time I did it.

Tell me, does 2-FMA taste much better?

I dunno about 2-FMA but the only times I have smoked ice that tastes strong enough for any one to think its awful tasting has been when its cut.