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How is hydrocodone in comparison

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I had a surgery on my shoulder in 2009 and it started acting up again about a month ago and I've been getting some pretty severe pain. Of course, NSAIDs, Codeine, and Tramadol didn't do shit, but a doctor reluctantly gave me a prescription to percocet which worked really well. This was a couple weeks ago and I was using them as needed on the really bad days, but he only gave me 20 so it ran out. I went back to the clinic today and the guy there said he doesn't prescribe percocet to anyone and he gave me a script for morphine hcl and I didn't like it. It gives me some pretty bad gut rot and the euphoric buzz not only leaves something to be desired, but it gives me a somewhat shitty feeling for some reason. The amount of pain relief is similar to percocet, but I'm not digging the side effects.

I guess the only thing left on the list to try to hydrocodone and I was wondering what it's like compared to morphine and oxy. I'm not afraid to ask for percocet (like I did today) because I know not to do it often enough to get addicted... I've been doing oxy occasionally for the last 3 years and I know not do it enough without getting addicted. They give me babydick 5mg doses of whatever they prescribe anyways.

I'm on a long wait for an MRI, so it's opiods until then... not too shabby.
 
It's really all about personal preference, but for me I really don't think hydrocodone works as well. You could always try it though and just go back to your dr if it isn't working. Then you will appear less like you are "drug-seeking" by asking for percs right off the bat. It's best to tell drs what your pain is like and what meds haven't worked in the past as opposed to telling them what drugs you want.

I have to say, that "knowing not to do it often enough to get addicted" is meaningless when it comes to opioids. That's what everyone says before they get addicted. And if you're in severe pain it will make it very easy to rationalize taking it increasingly more often without really intending to. And you yourself said "I'm on a long wait for an MRI, so it's opioids until then" - how long do you think it takes to become physically dependent?
 
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For me personally hydrocodone is somewhere between oxy and good ol codeine. Im quite surpsied you turned down morphine 8o. If you really wanted to, I believe the conversion to diacetyl morphine (heroin) isnt too complex. But thats probably not quite what your after. Hydrocodones worth a go, but considering your previous experiences it might not be your thing.
 
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I have to say, that "knowing not to do it often enough to get addicted" is meaningless when it comes to opioids. That's what everyone says before they get addicted. And if you're in severe pain it will make it very easy to rationalize taking it increasingly more often without really intending to. And you yourself said "I'm on a long wait for an MRI, so it's opioids until then" - how long do you think it takes to become physically dependent?
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My pain isn't so severe that I'd go crazy without the meds so I honestly use them pseudorecreationally if that makes any sense. I know better than to use them more than 3 times a week, and before today, it's been like 10 days since I had percocet. I saw my friend go through addiction and withdrawal and I'm scared straight enough to not be doing it every day.

The funny thing is, if I took the percocet as prescribed - 1 to 2 times every 4-6 hours daily as needed - I'd definitely be addicted.
 
1114 said:
My pain isn't so severe that I'd go crazy without the meds so I honestly use them pseudorecreationally if that makes any sense. I know better than to use them more than 3 times a week, and before today, it's been like 10 days since I had percocet. I saw my friend go through addiction and withdrawal and I'm scared straight enough to not be doing it every day.

The funny thing is, if I took the percocet as prescribed - 1 to 2 times every 4-6 hours daily as needed - I'd definitely be addicted.
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I see. Well what I said still applies even if you'e taking them less often than prescribed. Everyone says what you're saying. No one intends to get addicted. Just try not to be over-confident. It's very easy to start rationalizing taking opioids progressively more often, especially when you have a constant supply and are in pain. Dependence creeps up on you real fast. I'd seen people whose lives were ruined by addiction too and I thought I would never let it get to that point and if I just take them once a week then I wouldn't get addicted. But willpower and logic go out the window. Taking opioids for any reason - especially "recreationally" as opposed to solely for a short time in the absolute minimal amount needed to make pain bearable- is playing with fire, just be aware of that.
 
Hydrocodone was always my favorite opi when it came to the euphoria, but not so much for painkilling properties. If you do go the route of hydrocodone I highly recommend doing a cold water extraction (search + megathread) to remove the tylenol from the hydrocdone.
 
Hydrocodone doesnt last as long for pain as say oxycodone or morphine (surprised you turned it down but its not for everyone) its more euphoric than some other opiates & its great when mixed with soma (no harm reduction in that statement)
 
Your doctor declined to prescribe percocet, but gave you morphine instead? Wow, wish I had a doctor like that. =D
But hydrocodone is similar to oxycodone, but in my opinion, it is more euphoric and sedating at the right doses. Oxycodone is very slightly more potent on a mg/weight basis, but I find hydrocodone to be nicer. As far as analgesia and pain relief, you would get the same pain relief from 7.5 mg of vicodin/lortab as you would get from a 5 mg percocet.

However, both are inferior to morphine as analgesics. Morphine is the gold standard prototypical opiate that no other opioid has thus far been shown to be superior over in all research for over 200 years now. I am shocked you would turn morphine down. For pain relief, it is god.
 
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