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Heroin Is it safe to use heroin subcutaneously?

TheOneWhoSees

TheOneWhoSees

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I've looked around a little bit on the internet and what not and was unable to find much about SC administration of diacetylmorphine HCL. I apologize if this was already written about at some point but I think this is an interesting topic. The bioavailability of SC diamorphine is considerably higher than insuffulated diamorphine so it would be better for heroin users to inject SC provided that it's safe. %)

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No, it is not safe. It causes abscesses a lot easer than with other ROAs, particularly IV which also uses a syringe. The solution doesn't have a chance to circulate well when you SC (same goes for IM) so it kinda sits there, so if there is any bacteria it can easily cause an abscess. The only time that SC can be considered somewhat safe is if you use a micron filter for the solution, but even then you don't know what cuts make it into the solution, and you don't want that to be under your skin for a while.
 
It should be fairly safe if you use wheel filters, but otherwise I wouldn't recommend it.
 
What if a micron filter is used then the solution is subsequently transferred to a different spoon then heated and filtered again?
 
TheOneWhoSees said:
What if a micron filter is used then the solution is subsequently transferred to a different spoon then heated and filtered again?
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What would you hope to accomplish by this? If you for some reason decide to do this, you will destroy more heroin in the heating process than you will bacteria, which thrive in a hot, wet environment, please allow the solution to fully cool down prior to filtration.

You aren't supposed to be pushing hot water through a micron, especially the first time through. I don't know what you'd hope to accomplish by doing it again, that would be expensive and redundant IMO. I would not SC heroin, definitely not tar, I've never seen powder.

Better off using another ROA, like rectal.
 
Skin popping is just nasty..and utterly pointless too. It hurts like hell, leads to infection, and you achieve no rush. If you're not going to IV it, put the needle down because IM'ing and subcutaneous use of H is wasteful and dangerous. Plug it, smoke it, whatever... but don't skin pop. It's retarded. :\
 
Doesn't plugging carry a significant risk of infection? In the east all we get is diamorph HCL; never any black tar.
BTW thanks for the replies everybody.
 
^ I assume that they have run out of good veins to shoot in.

TheOneWhoSees said:
What if a micron filter is used then the solution is subsequently transferred to a different spoon then heated and filtered again?
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What would be the point of this, ie, what do you wish to accomplish by doing it? You should not heat the solution since doing so will allow for cuts to dissolve into the solution, pass through the filter, making it into your shot, and then precipitate back out once in your system. This is unsafe for various reasons, and can accumulate in certain parts of your body which is very dangerous. You should dissolve the solution in room temp or cooler water, micron filter, then shoot. Heroin HCL dissolves freely in room temperature water, so there is no need to heat it, and doing so will only allow more cuts to dissolve.

TheOneWhoSees said:
Doesn't plugging carry a significant risk of infection? In the east all we get is diamorph HCL; never any black tar.
BTW thanks for the replies everybody.
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No, plugging does not carry a significant risk of infection, especially compared to SC, IM, or even IV ROAs. Bacteria has more of a chance to effect you if it is SC'd or IM'd and sits in one place and multiplies. Also, if the shot has bacteria in it then it will obviously be worse to IV it since you are introducing the bacteria directly into your bloodstream. "Cotton Fever" is an example of this.
 
Just to clarify I was referring to heating the solution after a first round of filtering; therefore most cuts would be filtered out and the heat would kill off some bacteria.
 
I used to skin pop, inject SC, almost every time I shot. I have small and deep veins that make it almost impossible to shoot IV, and I'm in the medical profession where I administer IV, SC, and IM shots/lines/etc...

SC is not a good ROA. You get a lot less out of the drug, the come on is a lot slower and there are a lot of risks with it. There is a huge risk of getting an abscess, I've had a few. And that was with using good aseptic technique and sterile fluid.

It's really a last resort and is usually just a result of missing a vein. It does get the dope into you and is easier than IV, but it's a horrible way to go about getting high. Smoking would be a better choice if you don't want to IV.
 
Much better to inject it into the muscle than under the skin. And I wouldn't recommend it unless someone absolutely can not inject into a vein and is needing to prevent withdrawal symptoms. And then they should read up on everything they can do to help prevent infection etc.
 
TheOneWhoSees said:
Just to clarify I was referring to heating the solution after a first round of filtering; therefore most cuts would be filtered out and the heat would kill off some bacteria.
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Heating it won't help. It takes a very long time to kill bacteria, and you would be ruining dope if you were to heat it for the amount of time needed to actually kill bacteria. Micron filters can filter out bacteria though, so yet another reason to invest in them.
 
I'll qualify then - subcutaneous administration of diacetylmorphine is the least safe conventional Route of Administration.

I added the word conventional because obviously things like injecting into your eyeballs or open wound administration are going to be more dangerous.
 
Tripman said:
I'll qualify then - subcutaneous administration of diacetylmorphine is the least safe conventional Route of Administration.

I added the word conventional because obviously things like injecting into your eyeballs or open wound administration are going to be more dangerous.
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LOL, that is accurate. I'd think of subcutaneous as a last resort. (*ETA: And eyeball or open wound administration as a never resort to, of course).
 
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