Heroin Has anyone ever fully withdrew from heroin and found it NOT hard?

[Tommyboy]

You also have to consider how many times you were sold shitty bags over there. I hear they like to play games in Jersey, making the stamp fire at first, and then a few hours later putting out bunk bags in the same stamp. Then there are knock-off bags which are just that... A knock-off of a stamp that is known to be good from one crew, but another crew puts out the same stamp but with shitty dope in it. Basically brand name loyalty no longer exists there like it does in NY.

G a day for a year = 365 grams = 13 oz = 3/4 of a pound plus an oz

you did damn near a pound of heroin in a year and no major W/D ?

Then you didn't read damn near any of the content of the posts.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

G a day for a year = 365 grams = 13 oz = 3/4 of a pound plus an oz

you did damn near a pound of heroin in a year and no major W/D ?

We decided that since he was copping in Patterson, he was most likely doing bags about .04mg's, not .1's. So he was really only on about half a gram a day. Even still though, what he described still sounds way too tame. Half a gram a day of H for a full year is still half a gram of H for a full year. I've never kicked that small of a habit but... I would assume it to still be a lot shittier than what he said happened.

 

[ech0s85]

i havent seen anybody else mention this yet, but personally i found the kick got worse everytime i did it.
so if this was the first time youve gone through withdrawals they probably werent that bad. the first few times i kicked i felt shitty, couldnt sleep, and got kinda sweaty and that was about it. a couple years and a ton of withdrawals later and its not even comparable. When i kick the same size habit now i puke bile constantly, drip sweat, get INSANELY anxious, wild hot and cold flashes, come close to shitting myself and have to run for the bathroom.

it could just be from using longer now, but whatever the case its much worse now than even a year ago.

 

[pbuilder]

^ Yea man. Good thing you kicked on your own instead of going to detox and telling them you were doing a "gram" a day for a year. You woulda almost OD'd on methadone if they were generous with their dosing.



Quality = high, quantity = low

If a little over 2 bundles is needed to weigh out to a gram, then the price is pretty close to the normal price for a gram.

sorry hadn't read the whole thread, didn't see how skimped the bags were.

 

[rules]

Quality = high, quantity = low

i must agree. i copped in newark a few times before and hated all that shit. some people say it's better there. i don't think so. now that i think about it, in newark the bags weren't much fatter...

 

[rules]

You also have to consider how many times you were sold shitty bags over there. I hear they like to play games in Jersey, making the stamp fire at first, and then a few hours later putting out bunk bags in the same stamp. Then there are knock-off bags which are just that... A knock-off of a stamp that is known to be good from one crew, but another crew puts out the same stamp but with shitty dope in it. Basically brand name loyalty no longer exists there like it does in NY.

Oh yeah, that is normal behavior in paterson. when lexus was around for a while though. omg. almost makes me want to relapse. jk

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

All I know is I'm surprised anybody has to settle for mediocre H or skimped bags nowerdays. There seems to be heroin, and good heroin at that, all over the fucking place. There has been a serious surge.. even up north out of the city there are more dealers who are all slinging bags for half the price they usually did that far away from NYC. Makes it hard to stay clean when there is so much H around.

 

[chairmanma084]

ranged between half a bundle and a bundle a day. maybe once a month i'd do a little more than a bundle. you can call bullshit...but i swear to you that i didn't throw up, have diarrhea, or pain in my body none of the days that i was withdrawing. i had cold sweats, obviously my feet kicking nonstop, a moderate feeling of needing dope, and some mild dystonia. that's it. i have no reason to lie. i'd love to come on here and say that i was proud of withdrawing because of how difficult it was...but it really wasn't...i don't know how else to explain it. it was very weird to me, i won't lie.

yea this dude thinks he's clean but he's probably taking mad doses of oxy or some other shit. i totally agree with 'i against i.' either someone's on here to get a little attention, to sound like a superhuman badass, or just to lie. whatever, rules. you are, at least in SOME way, completely full of shit.

 

[Tommyboy]

All I know is I'm surprised anybody has to settle for mediocre H or skimped bags nowerdays. There seems to be heroin, and good heroin at that, all over the fucking place. There has been a serious surge.. even up north out of the city there are more dealers who are all slinging bags for half the price they usually did that far away from NYC. Makes it hard to stay clean when there is so much H around.

The scene has changed so much in just the 5-6 years that I have been using. When I started, bags out in the suburbs were double the price since they were all from middle-men making runs to the city. Once word got out on how much money could be made on heroin, dealers started setting up shop in the suburbs and selling for city prices, but the mills were making smaller bags. But still, now I can buy pretty much all I want around here, whereas 5 years ago it wasn't like that because people making runs to the city were getting 50-100 bags at the most so supply was limited.

 

[rules]

yea this dude thinks he's clean but he's probably taking mad doses of oxy or some other shit. i totally agree with 'i against i.' either someone's on here to get a little attention, to sound like a superhuman badass, or just to lie. whatever, rules. you are, at least in SOME way, completely full of shit.

i fully understand that oxycotton is also an opiate. i'm not five years old. i'm not going to argue with you though. agree to disagree.

 

[Nightlites]

OP you were using a year...
did u ever run outta cash/bags whatever and go through any withdrawls when u couldnt get ur hands on anything?

and like echos85 said, my first kick i kicked a Poppy tea habbit, pretty hefty one, had never really experienced withdrawls before becaus it wasnt to hard to keep a steady supply at my house of them, so i used everyday with never having to experience withdrawls except once when i woke up sick, but all i did was go down stairs and mix up some brew and Voila! im well again...

but i ran out one and beleive it or not i kicked COLD TURKEY at Burningman festival lmao... i started getting chills/goosebumbs diahria (luckily it was like 110 degrees out ther) so wasnt too cold.... but i went 3 or 4 days threw the ordeal and didnt even bat an eye... i even brought pods out there with me but still didnt use them... why? idk really.....but i got throught the whole withdrawl for bout 4 days b4 i dosed again... and honestly i coulda just "walked it off"....

what im getting at is, the first time i whithdrawled i didnt really know wat to expect, i think that had a lot to do with it.
since in fact so much of it is psychologicle(?)

now days fucckkkkk i damn near wanna cry and am almost having panic attacks BEFORE I EVEN GET SICK... ughhhh

but i worked my way up to 10-15 bags a day habbit and well... that shitl knock your socks off lol

 

[rules]

OP you were using a year...
did u ever run outta cash/bags whatever and go through any withdrawls when u couldnt get ur hands on anything?

actually, no. i have been sick before. but then i'd just drive my car into paterson and cop. snort bags on the way home. good times. i actually come from a rather privileged background so even when i did run out of cash, it wasn't too hard to get money out of my mom and dad. while on binges, occasionally i'd run out of cash and i'd ask them for money for whatever it was and i'd get it. so i've had almost no experience with any kind of withdrawal.

and like echos85 said, my first kick i kicked a Poppy tea habbit, pretty hefty one, had never really experienced withdrawls before becaus it wasnt to hard to keep a steady supply at my house of them, so i used everyday with never having to experience withdrawls except once when i woke up sick, but all i did was go down stairs and mix up some brew and Voila! im well again...

i'm curious with the fact that you say you used to get poppy tea with no problem. I'd have no problem starting my habit again as long as it'd be that way. You don't live in the US, do you? i've been trying to find places to find poppy pods for awhile with no avail.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Yeah, the first kick is never that bad.. and it does get worse and worse the more times you get clean and then get restrung out. So perhaps that's part of what the OP experienced. I also agree that the idea of being sick is like... the worst source of anxiety for an addict. You build it up in your head and start having a heart attack before any symptom even presents itself, just because you know it's going to happen. I wonder how much worse we make it because of our fear of it, our anticipation and build up..

 

[Tommyboy]

i'm curious with the fact that you say you used to get poppy tea with no problem. I'd have no problem starting my habit again as long as it'd be that way. You don't live in the US, do you? i've been trying to find places to find poppy pods for awhile with no avail.

You were able to get them on eBay up until like 3 years ago. There was seller ratings and feedback, and tons of them to choose from. Ah, those were the days. We used to order them on there using paypal, and have them delivered to our dorm.

We don't allow sourcing though, and I only mentioned eBay because it no longer sells them.

 

[rules]

are they illegal? i thought they were legal. it isn't sourcing if it's legal, is it? ):

 

[heroingirl]

Ive had the same experience of having a legit habit for quite some time, then kicking, and expecting it to be like it appears in movies and stuff. I've been using anywhere from 2 grams a day (keep in mind, black tar, SHITTY seattle dope) to 8 grams a day, could afford it cuz my bf was the dopeman, but anyways, yeah, i've never thrown up, ive never been like screaming in agony, trying to break down the door to run and get more, etc. but i HAVE had some really bad constant chills, sweating, aching shins, runny nose, sneezing, restless horrible leg feeilng... and feeling really depressed. but yeah, ive never had anything like in the movie trainspotting where he sees a baby crawling on the ceiling and stuff. i DEFINITELY thought that kicking heroin was going to be much much worse. but don't get me wrong, the longer i do it, (going on 7 years now) the worse the kick gets. now i am terrified of it. im on day 4 right now but im making my boyfriend pick me up and im going to get some cuz i ran out of subs yesterday. i hate this haha

 

[Project Will]

I have been hooked on opiates for about a year recently using around .3g/day of insufflated H or ~150mg hydro, 40mg opana, or whatever else I could get my hands on. I quit a couple weeks ago first doing a quick taper using my last 30 norcs, followed by tramadol the next few days and using large doses of loperamide (like 50mg a day at least) the whole time. This shit sucked but I was able to function without shitting myself. I realize it wasn't a huge habit, but still thought WDs would be worse. I didn't sleep much the first couple nights when the norcs ran out, had bad leg aches, sweating and freezing, nose running, eyes watering and such. I found that taking high doses of lope REALLY helped, and a couple mgs of clonazepam at night worked for sleeping.

I've heard from a bunch of people that WDs get worse and worse after each time you go through them. Perhaps it is like taste aversion or negative association - once you know what to expect, you build the shit up in your mind and make it worse.

Up until a few months ago there were still decently priced pods around if you ordered from the UK, now I only know of one good and cheap source and that shit isn't going to be posted on a forum and ruined like all the other good sources. It is too bad that the pod market is so insanely expensive now.

 

[rules]

I have been hooked on opiates for about a year recently using around .3g/day of insufflated H or ~150mg hydro, 40mg opana, or whatever else I could get my hands on. I quit a couple weeks ago first doing a quick taper using my last 30 norcs, followed by tramadol the next few days and using large doses of loperamide (like 50mg a day at least) the whole time. This shit sucked but I was able to function without shitting myself. I realize it wasn't a huge habit, but still thought WDs would be worse. I didn't sleep much the first couple nights when the norcs ran out, had bad leg aches, sweating and freezing, nose running, eyes watering and such. I found that taking high doses of lope REALLY helped, and a couple mgs of clonazepam at night worked for sleeping.

I've heard from a bunch of people that WDs get worse and worse after each time you go through them. Perhaps it is like taste aversion or negative association - once you know what to expect, you build the shit up in your mind and make it worse.

Up until a few months ago there were still decently priced pods around if you ordered from the UK, now I only know of one good and cheap source and that shit isn't going to be posted on a forum and ruined like all the other good sources. It is too bad that the pod market is so insanely expensive now.

sweet. an experience similar to mine! i did just remember though...i also tapered with some tramadol too. can't believe i forgot that after all this arguing. -.-