Opioids the extended release hydrocodone

[HYDRO_CHRONIC]

anyone know if this is going to be abuse proof right off the bat ,i mean u would think companies would save money and just make it abuse proof to begin with

i really hope not though ,am really eager to try when comes out since i found hydrocodone to be a better euphoric ex

 

[BiggDirty01]

I haven't heard anything specific regarding the time release matrix but I've heard there is 3 different companies applying for various patents of some version of Hydrocodone-ER. But assume it will be most likely in the same mold as the new OP and Opana because it seems as though the FDA wants to keep adding new ER Opiates (for BIG PHARMA's bottom line) but is taking heat from advocacy groups that oppose the introduction of new high strength opiate narcotics.

It should be interesting to see what comes out of this and if they actually approve all 3 kinds of Hydro-ER or just one of them. Either way these companies seem highly interested in flooding the market with new, expensive medications despite the fact that we don't necessarily need them.

Just my .02

 

[pbuilder]

I've heard something about i think a pharma company called "watson" that just got the rights to make a new form of opana ER. Who know's if that will be like the current new opanas and OP oxy's to, or if they will make it like the original oxy contin *er*, which was very easy to make ir

im sure it is now the standard though with prescription opiates, by law, to be required to be made with whatever makes them gum up now and impossible (almost... i've heard of the microwave and oven techniques, both sounding really sketchy to me lol) to crush or shoot.

 

[HYDRO_CHRONIC]

gaurentee sp it will gel since iv hydro is bad for the lungs

 

[Tommyboy]

^ I'm assuming you are referring to the bad histamine release from IV hydrocodone. Codeine is even worse for IV since it causes pulmonary edema, so by that rationale it too would be made to gel up. I think that abuse resistant formulas have more to do with potential for abuse rather than potential for harmful side effects when abused.

I thought that 'Zohydro' (the new ER version of hydrocodone with no apap) was to be made in a capsule, so I am not sure if it will be made to gel like others.

 

[tricomb]

I'd call it HydroContin.

 

[Znegative]

Is amazing that it's taken this long for them to come out with an extended release version of hydrocodone.. I can't imagine that these would not have the new, pain in the ass XR formula though... It's a shame too, because hydrocodone is one of the few opiates that if i were to get one of these, I would break the time release and still take it orally.

 

[rob007]

these things suck. i have a hefty dope habit but my connect got bagged so i found these. 8mg exalgo's. cant crush them for shit. got 1 to break up using pliers and a razor. couldnt get anywhere close to a fine powder. i gave up and swallowed about 6-7 of them. so like 48mg or 56mg dilaudid. barely removed my withdrawals. its been like 8 hours and crap. i dont know if i wanna try to IV these because i just got away from the stick and not trying to go back. just saying the XR Hydromorphone sucks donkey balls

they are like plastic feeling. you need to grind them with like a razor to get anything close to powder. cant crush em. and even then, still not go.

 

[HYDRO_CHRONIC]

not talking about hydromorphone slick

ya id want to insulf. just to try it

but then again oral hydr has always been good ,was way more euphoric for me than oxycodone ,i would literally just sit there and had the good NODdreams and be so happy and gitty

 

[BiggDirty01]

Hydrocontin would be the coolest thing ever. I wish I could be on my HC80s.....

Seriously! I always favored the high from hydro just had to take too many once the surgeries piled up. HC-80 would make the days of the blue/green OC80 seem like a distant memory (especially in the era of OP80).

 

[rob007]

not talking about hydromorphone slick

ya id want to insulf. just to try it

but then again oral hydr has always been good ,was way more euphoric for me than oxycodone ,i would literally just sit there and had the good NODdreams and be so happy and gitty

thought you were talking about the exalgo's that came out.

 

[ro0ga]

I don't think any concrete information has been released on the time release mechanism for the Zohydro, but I would say there is a reasonable chance they may be in the "crushable" formulation. I say this only because it costs drug companies a lot more money to formulate an abuse proof time release mechanism, and big pharma is all about spending as little as possible (and charging the most!).

 

[Intrinsic man]

I thought that 'Zohydro' (the new ER version of hydrocodone with no apap) was to be made in a capsule, so I am not sure if it will be made to gel like others.

That sounds awesome! Hydrocodone with no apap in a capsule... unless they found a way to make it "abuse proof" I can see myself dumping these into some OJ or something for an easy and quick ingestion/onset. It would also make insufflation much easier...

 

[Intrinsic man]

I just hope it's something that can be beat with water and a micron filter. No solvents, no polymers, no thankyou.

I'm guessing this new hydrocodone is far from being approved and ready to be prescribed? I read an article about 5 months ago talking about a new "super hydrocodone" and how strong it's going to be. Apparently there are a lot of critics who say the abuse potential will be just as bad resulting in a new wave up addicts like when Oxycontin was first released. Is there anything, that we know of now, that us supposed to be different other than no APAP? I was under the impression that the opiate was actually going to be stronger.

 

[Tommyboy]

I was under the impression that the opiate was actually going to be stronger.

Then the media did their job. Hydrocodone can't be any stronger than hydrocodone. When they say things like "this new super-drug is going to be 10x more powerful than the current formulations of hydrocodone" they are likely comparing it to the lowest hydrocodone dose (which I think is 5mg) to make the story more interesting, so they are likely just talking about a 50mg hydrocodone ER pill.

The truth of the matter is, acetaminophen is finally getting the negative attention it deserves, so it only makes sense that they would make an ER version of hydrocodone without it. I only wish they had done this sooner which would have saved a lot of peoples liver from being damaged, and also would have provided more of a bridge between vicodin and oxycodone.