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Increasing violence on the streets?

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I feel like I might just be getting old, but lately I've noticed a increase in random, unprovoked violence on the streets. Has anyone else?

I've always felt fairly safe walking around the streets, even in areas with a dodgy reputation, because it's always felt to me that violence in these areas happens for a reason, and if you know the right things to do or how to act, you wont be bothered. This has always worked for me, or perhaps I've just been lucky.

In the past few weeks though, two completely unprovoked incidents have really made me think times are changing. First time I only just avoided a confrontation with a group of guys as my ex arrived just as this group was converging on me. Second time this same ex had a knife pulled on him whilst walking to the supermarket. A girl sitting alone may be an easy target, but my ex is a fierce looking bloke and I'm surprised two guys would pull a knife to steal a phone or whatever they thought he had on him. If it was me I would've been fucked.

Both times have involved the same ethnicity of guys. I've always been one to tell my mates off when they stereotype a particular race, but after these two incidents I can see why people develop these views. Not saying that it's fair or rational, just that I understand.

The whole thing has really changed how I feel walking around in what I always considered a place I know and feel safe in, just the unpredictability of it.

Has anyone else noticed a similar rise in unprovoked violence, or have I just been unlucky lately?
 
hey hey.

What I've noticed in the Adelaide club scene, when the pills draught hit. More violence occurr'd in the clubs and pubs. Reason 1 = no pills people get on booze more and we all know alchy leads to rowdy violent behavior. Reason 2 no pills people get on meth/shards instead of pills. Meth/Shards/Ice makes people a lot of on edge/sketchy sometimes psychosis episodes that leads to violent behaviors too!

But this is just what I've observed in the night life scene yo!.

Maybe this same logic can be applied to everyday life? These days more and more people are well and truely addicted to Meth. Weekend worriors turns into daily users/smokers. And meth aint cheap + being a fulltime crackhead almost always = ppl losing their normal jobs etc. So when the going gets tough what to do? Go out in town armed with knifes etc and rob ppl for cash phones etc and then get more drugs????

Or maybe if its not for the money, its just irrational behaviors in results of over use of dopaminic drugs. As meth changes people into impulsive fucks etc?

i donno, just my 2cents and then some.
 
I wouldn't go so far as to say that our new generations are responsible for the sudden climb of violence. In fact, you could even assume that, statistically speaking, the violence rates have been the same- it has just occurred numerically more because our population has increased exponentially. Regardless, I always see people causing shit at night around my place - and it's just the friendly Burbs. Noted, they are just kids, but it's still fucking annoying when I have to actually be cautious when walking around at night. And yeah, Headdah's on to something here. :\
 
I'm certainly noticing more instances of violence. Whether it's because I am reading the news more, or whether it's happening more, I am not too sure. However, one thing I am certain about is that the absolutely soft punishment of violent crimes by the courts cannot be helping.
 
I feel pretty safe walking around in my city although there are particular night club areas that you do have to keep your wits about. I can't even say that I think meth is to blame, more often than not I find it is alcohol to blame. walking with a pretty girl can get the odd loon wanting to be smart, but I find it is far easier just to smile and nod and keep walking. It is usually the ones who get butt hurt and want to save their honour that suddenly have to fight off 3 or more attackers. I just go to classier establishments that have tight security and leave the riff raff on the streets.

I definitely believe that sentences for serious crimes, particularly violence by juveniles are too soft. It seems the only ones who do any prison time are manslaughter/murder and even then if you are under 18 you are hard done by if you are not out by the time you are thirty. If they are aboriginal you get the "poor parenting and lack of role model" defence from their lawyers. I am all for giving someone a chance if they make a mistake but a lot of the time these kids are up to their 4 or 5th conviction. The two kids who were shot in the Cross on the weekend are a perfect example. It seems that more people are concerned about their rough treament rather than the fact they ran over some poor pedestrian. Perhaps if they were belted more when they did play up by their parents they wouldn't think of stealing a car. Kids go to school and aren't allowed to feel like a loser, or get roughed up playing Red Rover or are discouraged to ride their bikes because of the danger, yet turn around and sook when they get a copper's knee in the neck when they try to resist arrest. You reap what you sow it seems.
 
don't buy the hype. the news are centering on guns as a flavour of the month. that is all.

business as usual.
 
I have never seen a gun but I've seen someone beating to a pulp just for trying to stop some guy pushing his girlfriend around on the street. I don't think we are any where near the gun culture of the states but violence on the streets has definitely got worse and more indiscriminate.
 
This isn't clubs, pubs or bars I'm talking about. This is just on the street in the suburbs, walking to the supermarket or some such. I'm not really convinced it's meth, I would attribute that more to increasing violence around 'night spots' or on weekends.
 
If were talking Footscray here, as suggested by your username, then I do agree that the "new" ethnic group occupying footscray have a higher tendency to be unpredictably violent. Not to say I'm racist or anything, but they seriously ARE more violent than most. Growing up in and around those suburbs, I've found unprovoked violence to be relatively consistent. However, most that I've witnessed have been further out west.. Footscray is somewhat cleaning up
 
could it have something to do with the new Australians? and i don't mean refugees / boat people
 
L2R said:
don't buy the hype. the news are centering on guns as a flavour of the month. that is all.

business as usual.
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Yep. Give it another few weeks and there'll be a major decision coming up regarding personal freedom, and so many will willingly give it away just "to be safe from the bad guys with the guns"!
 
be glad theres not a lot of guns it sounds like the stuff you are describing goes on every night in some US cities. Except its even more impersonal as people just squeeze off a clip and run without even aiming really. A lot of people are shot for no reason except being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
shimazu said:
be glad theres not a lot of guns it sounds like the stuff you are describing goes on every night in some US cities. Except its even more impersonal as people just squeeze off a clip and run without even aiming really. A lot of people are shot for no reason except being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Glad I don't live in said US cities. Here, most of the time, even in the roughest suburbs, if you comply with the potentially violent intimidating individuals, it's most likely that they won't even hurt you. Someone unloading a clip is completely unheard of here. Unless we're talking gang related.. and that's still rare at that. The US should not have guns legal IMO... what good do guns bring really
 
Raw Evil said:
Yep. Give it another few weeks and there'll be a major decision coming up regarding personal freedom, and so many will willingly give it away just "to be safe from the bad guys with the guns"!
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i think you are on to something there...

pigs running around with guns isn't any better bikes riding around with guns...is it?
 
Hmm two people shot today on the gold coast at a shopping center in daylight. Maybe it is just the flavor of the month and the media is convincing me.. but i cant recall the last time i heard about so many shootings in such a short amount of time.
 
using a gun to finish a fight seems to be getting more common around here, i have never been shot at personally but i have seen a friend get shot at once, and i do know another person who had a gun pointed at their head in a home invasion.
Gun crime/shootings come in stages from what i have noticed, there will be a period where guns are more frequently used, then the police will start focusing on randomly searching for guns in cars and people for guns, with multiple arrests, then popularity of using a gun drops for awhile (afew weeks or months or even years) and then its like a wave where afew shootings turn into multiple shootings.​
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I disagree with HEADDAHs comment that alcohol and more recently ice is the main factor, here in sydney there has been shooting 'spikes' around 1998/99 and again around 2003/04, both of these periods were before ice had become popular like it is today and both these periods xtc/mdma were getting popular or was at its most popular.​
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The thing that i believe is the more likely reason for increased violence on the streets is more to do with the 'changing of the guard'. It is a fact that each new generation/main players in a particular area are always going to be meaner/more violent than their predessors, lol how else do they get to the top. this can be a new ethnic group who have experienced more violence, or just the next wave of 'tough guys' in the area that need to out do the older guys to get a name for themself. This then raises the bar of what is now acceptable or normal for street crime. This would explain what 'footscrazy' posted where it has become more violent with the newer arrivals to the area often the culprits.​
In sydney the people responsible or most likely to use a gun also want to be seen as the baddest and get a name for themselves, and if there is an increase of shootings then these people will follow suit. Atm here using a gun or owning a handgun is the 'in' thing.​
 
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Crime and violence are down, but news reporting on it is higher than ever. Gotta keep the fear alive and the people divided, after all.
 
Crime and violence are down
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What in Melb? Or Vic? Or Australia?

Where did you get that info from. You might be correct, i have no idea really, but Sydney seems to be having alot of gun crime and drive bys recently, but as you said the media and tv may just be reporting it more, i dunno.

The streets seem safe where I am (most of the time) i guess if you go out at night you may get into some probs, i tend to not head out at night much alone tho.

Places like the city in Syd and Byron town seem to have alot of violence, but again maybe its just an increase in media coverage. idk.
 
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