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Can Xanax or Valium kill?

Whipped Dream

Whipped Dream

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I have an anxiety and sleep deprivation problem for which I'm prescribed valium. Problem is, it doesn't work. Last night I stayed awake until 4:30am popping 10mg valium tabs until I finally fell asleep. In all I took around 80 - 90 mg of valium. That said, what is a lethal dose of diazepam, or is that even possible?
 
From the little that I know..
it seems as though most overdoses when it comes to
benzo's..are when they're mixed with alcohol.

Somebody smarter will come along shortly to help you out better than I can.
I'm right there with you as far as the anxiety/insomnia goes.
Have you asked your md. about trying something else for sleep?

<3token
 
Indeed. Compared to other downers, benzodiazepines are safer in terms of overdose. The danger doesn't really lie in death (unless you're taking insane amounts and/or taking it with lots of other depressants) but in blacking out and doing really stupid stuff and/or consuming other drugs during the blackout.

As weekend addiction said, the real danger lies in the day that your script runs out and then the day that all the diazepam (Valium) and its active metabolities are out of your system. I encourage you to look for other means to help you sleep and lower your Valium dosage slowly in the meantime.

Good to see you around again man, by the way :)
 
weekend addiction said:
You don't have much to worry about as far as that goes. Getting arrested maybe. by the way is this every night you cant sleep cause when your script runs out you will hate it.
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S/he said s/he's rx'd the vals...why's the op getting arrested?

I missed something here..
I wonder what they did.......

<3token
 
Well, 80 or 90 mg of Valium on its own is not going to kill you, that is for sure, but I would not recommend it for someone with no benzo tolerance due to the disinhibition, poor judgement, and amnesia that come along with higher doses of benzos. It would take much more Valium than that to actually kill you, because benzos are very safe in that they have a very high LD50 (lethal dose) compared to a therapuetic dose. On their own, benzos are very hard to OD fatally on, but combined with other drugs like alcohol, barbiturates, opiates, the situation changes drastically. Also, as I said high doses can be unsafe just because of the very often severe poor judegement they can cause, and amnesia to top it off. I do not know your tolerance, but if you don't have much of one, I would suggest not taking the doses you did unless well "supervised". But, the Valium does not seem to be working for you well, so I would suggest another benzo or two benzos (one for anxiety, one for sleep). Some of the more hypnotic benzos include Restoril, Halcion, and Dalmane, as well as others which aren't really coming to mind now. Z-drugs, too, help with sleep very well for some, such as Ambien (CR or not) or Lunesta.
 
If you were locked in a padded room by yourself, and no objects, it would be almost impossible to kill your self from benzos.

Benzo's leading to death is more likely from acting stupid while on them, or mixing them with opiates, or other CNS depressants. However just benzo's by themselves are relatively safe.

@Token: I think because benzos, and benzos +alcohol especially leads to very bad judgement, which can lead to getting arrested, or dying.
 
Thanks for the candid responses guys, I'll try something else. My wife was mortified when I told her how much I took.

A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do...
 
tokenname said:
S/he said s/he's rx'd the vals...why's the op getting arrested?

I missed something here..
I wonder what they did.......

<3token
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Step 1. Take a somewhat sane dose of benzos.
Step 2. Black out and forget that you've taken benzos.
Step 3. Take more benzos.
Step 4. Repeat steps 1-3 a few times.
Step 5. Attempt to do pretty much anything that requires using judgement.
Step 6. ???
Step 7. Jail.
 
Yes. My fucking unbelievably previous psych who had some horrible ideas/judgement in retrospect.... Had me on 6-8mg of Xanax XR a day, with additional 2mg Xanax IR bars to take as needed. Needless to say, I became extremely tolererant psychically dependent for about a year or so... Before I did one of the hardest things and got off after tapering.

But yes it can kill. It is ONE OF THE MOST HORRIFYING FEELINGS in the world IMO when you are at a level with a dangerous short acting benzo like Xanax like I was..... And then cannot get access to your pills! The past September i was in Venice and the dock-valet people took my bags and went to go, at least I thought... Bring them to my room....anyways long story short, after an incredible world premiere and one of the most fun and outrageously lavish nights I've ever had.. I blacked out drinking more or less, ended up on another island somewhere , phone dead... Boat driver long gone... Lost the girl and the people I was with. ABOUT 12 hours later of deliriously walking through sunrise and into the late morning in a stupid suit and loafers till my feet were bleeding a lot, I finally managed to get back somehow, without swimming..... By this time I could feel that it was BAD. It's a horrific feeling that compounds ontop of itself and expands and suffocates you and accellerates after and faster ans faster, you start shaking, feeling like you are going to have a fatal seizure any moment. Sweating balls... Can't sit, have to pave, everything extremely dissociative.

I used EVERY TINY MOLECULE of whatever will power.... To fight this off. And luckily a very busy person had empathy enough for me to call me a boat/driver ASAP and send me down with this chick to wait with me and to carry a crate of alps spring water and champaine.. I downed everything, and the boat did come finally and sped across the Adriatic sea , sitting on the back trying to not go into seizures and die , literally..... Chugging a 2nd bottle of ridiculous Chardon , knowing it might temp. Quiet my GABA receptors. And yes, I don't give a fuck about name dropping or celebrities but looking back on it.... The whole life threatening situation.... having Kira niightly and Madonna getting whipped in their driven boats right behind and next to me, watching me just FACING bottle after bottle, that old blond slut laughing and waving whats up, Im sure I looked absurd especially passing a normal public tour boat going like 50mph slaying bottles , full sear sucker suit flapping violent,y in the wind, twitching uncontrollably, literally on verge of convulsions and what I knew would be a no joke seizure , on the back of the mahogany leather back of the boat..... People waving and taking pictures meanwhile I'm hyperventilating hoping not to die yelling at the driver in horrible italian to drive full fucking speed.

Got to my new hotel right in time..... Where my bags actually were , and BARELY made it to my room. Swallowed down 10mg of Xanax bars and collapsed on the floor. Crying with relief. XANAX Can KILL. XANAX is VERY DANGEROUS.


And this same M.D later tried switching me abruptly to 100, yes , 100mg of Valium (which I had never seen or tried) from the Xanax when I got back with horrendous results.....I would have to leave class because I couldn't think or see straight , everything was ALL fucked up, and it made me even more angry because of this , or actually idk what exactly the effect it had on me but it was BAD. I did t care about anyone or bitvhes or even my classes (which is not myself) , I just would leave quick as possible and slur some words to to th valet outside school.... Get into my car, stop at the liquor store (no fucking idea why or what motive caused this ????) and I would buy around a half fifth of Jäger and red bull and just drink it all on the ride home through the city and bump music loud as possible.

In both situations with both benzos; it is a true miracle that I never was seriously hurt, died, or suffered brain damaging seizures....


fuck benzos really. They are a miracle when you REALLY REALLY need them. But that is it. I would much much rather be addicted to opiates (non IV) than benzos like that ever again. Once you are under the benzo dictator.... You are pretty much chained to a giant Xanax bar that controlls everyday and hour of your life.

End of the story....
 
don't play with it, as others have pointed out.
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Interestingly, it's not taking the drug that can kill you. Benzo withdrawal can cause seizures and be deadly. The higher the dose, the greater the risk.
 
blunted : So far everyone was talking about taking the drugs and having a bad effect, not from withdrawals. Also it takes a while to build up that type of tolerance to benzo's.

Just taking a huge amount of benzos at once isn't going to harm you. Doing that with other drugs, ie opiates, will kill you.
 
OP, I can relate to your problem

It's so annoying isn't it? you plan to have a good night sleep - you head to bed & take your valium - then it doesn't help at all, you end up having another sleepless anxiety ridden night

diazepam tolerance grows so quickly...
 
If not mixed with any other drug, benzodiazapines will knock one unconscious before causing a fatality. I wish I could remember what thread I saw it in (and thus the proper source) but a doctor stated (roughly) that "a patient is more likely to choke to death on the pill itself than to die as a result of the effect of the pill" .. or something to that effect. :)
 
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