No benzo tolerance but no effect on 9mg klonopin, input?

[c0nzor]

Hey over the course of 5 hours I have ingested 9mg of klonopin with no success, this is my second time since 2 weeks ago and have no history of heavy use. I know this will be a speculative thread but that is what I want, multiple opinions.

Anybody have any ideas? Also I have an empty stomach.

 

[Kudi85]

wow 9mg? that sounds like alot. i don't think i've ever ventured past 4mg at once w/ any benzo, cept temazepam 15mg for sleep. Sometimes if i didn't want to take alot, but wanted to feel it i'd drink a higher alcoholic level beer, just one or two, along with 1-1.5mg of a benzo - WARNING THIS IS DANGEROUS - don't drink with more than i'd say 2mg benzo and only a ONE or TWO drinks at most. This MAY help you feel something, but if not maybe you just have some unknown tolerance or they just may not work in your "system"

 

[debaser]

Some people are immune to some benzos. Clonazepam is well known to not work on certain people.

 

[c0nzor]

Thanks Ppl I had feared this, next time at my psych visit I shall advice and may even site your names as sources (likely not) but the only hiccup is this seems to be her wonder drug lol she feels it is the same strength as Xanax which for me it is on obviously not and cannot be beat, which it obviously can I'm prescribed me klonopin.

 

[effie]

If it's not working then your doctor should definitely change it.. just explain the situation and hopefully they will understand.

Even though it does not seem to be working I would not recommend taking bigger and bigger doses - it has a long half life and you don't want to be suddenly caught out!

 

[c0nzor]

Thanks Effie, I just never thought I would be immune to a drug!

 

[Lgl002]

Klonopin is, from what I've read, the most inconsistent of benzos. For many it can be a life saver. For some the effects are very mild. In a few studies I've read, it mentioned that for same patients the peak blood plasma level would be reached in 2 hours or so and for others up to 8 hours. The peak plasma level also varied by up to 20fold from person to person. This could certainly explain why you don't feel much.

If you really need a benzo for anxiety purposes and you've been prescribed klonopin, see if your psychiatrist would be willing to change it too another moderate duration benzo.

 

[c0nzor]

What do you thinks would conform with "moderate"duration in your opinion although I have plenty of my own opinion on the subject lol

 

[kokaino]

Maybe you just over did it? Sometimes I find that less is more. I have found that to be true with both benzos and opioids.

 

[SPC123]

Clonazepam can be subtle. Xanax on the other hand is the Mac Truck of benzos. Xanax is very short acting however, whereas clonazepam will remain in your system for up to 2 days. It's my favorite benzo. But it will not hit you the way Xanax does. Not many benzos will. You could try diazepam (Valium) and see where that gets you. Diazepam has a half life of up to 8 days, so it lasts a good while. But it is also far more subtle than Xanax. Another favorite of psychiatrists everywhere is lorazepam. That has the same half life as Xanax, but doesn't hit as hard.

My opinion is that the clonazepam is doing what it does, and you simply aren't appreciating the effects. This isn't a slam at you. Many people don't find benzos to be all that abusable. If you enjoyed the Xanax you probably should just stick with it. If you want to see if you just have some sort of natural immunity to clonazepam then lorazepam is probably the most easily obtained otherwise (as I said, lorazepam seems to be a psych favorite, so they don't mind handing it out). If you run into the same problems with lorazepam then you know you are just one of those people who isn't big on benzos.

 

[golden1]

Clonazepam can be subtle. Xanax on the other hand is the Mac Truck of benzos. Xanax is very short acting however, whereas clonazepam will remain in your system for up to 2 days. It's my favorite benzo. But it will not hit you the way Xanax does. Not many benzos will. You could try diazepam (Valium) and see where that gets you. Diazepam has a half life of up to 8 days, so it lasts a good while. But it is also far more subtle than Xanax. Another favorite of psychiatrists everywhere is lorazepam. That has the same half life as Xanax, but doesn't hit as hard.

My opinion is that the clonazepam is doing what it does, and you simply aren't appreciating the effects. This isn't a slam at you. Many people don't find benzos to be all that abusable. If you enjoyed the Xanax you probably should just stick with it. If you want to see if you just have some sort of natural immunity to clonazepam then lorazepam is probably the most easily obtained otherwise (as I said, lorazepam seems to be a psych favorite, so they don't mind handing it out). If you run into the same problems with lorazepam then you know you are just one of those people who isn't big on benzos.

I'd second this, if you're used to xanax, clonazepam has a much less "intoxicating" "alcoholish" effect, yet I find it is much better for my mood and clarity of thought.

 

[Swain]

What are you expecting to happen to you when you get high? I mean is it even making you tired sleepy or literally no affect? REemmber, benzos are not heroin or ecstasy... there is no euphoria to be had and the high is kind of subtle.

 

[Venrak]

What are you expecting to happen to you when you get high? I mean is it even making you tired sleepy or literally no affect? REemmber, benzos are not heroin or ecstasy... there is no euphoria to be had and the high is kind of subtle.

This.

Some people expect benzos to be sedating and euphoric like a good opiod nod, which is far from the case. Oftentimes, anxiolysis is the only effect, and when a person isn't anxious to begin with it can be perceived as inert.

 

[Tommyboy]

What symptoms are you looking to treat with benzos? If it's general anxiety then I would steer away from xanax, unless you go the xanax xr route. If you are only using it to treat panic attacks then xanax is good for that, but scripts for daily use of it can get messy.

For general anxiety I recommend valium. It certainly does not hit you like xanax does, but it is subtle and very long lasting, and is somewhat of an acquired taste for those that switch to it after becoming accustomed to other benzos that hit you a little harder.

 

[kokaino]

Clonazepam can be subtle. Xanax on the other hand is the Mac Truck of benzos. Xanax is very short acting however, whereas clonazepam will remain in your system for up to 2 days. It's my favorite benzo. But it will not hit you the way Xanax does. Not many benzos will. You could try diazepam (Valium) and see where that gets you. Diazepam has a half life of up to 8 days, so it lasts a good while. But it is also far more subtle than Xanax. Another favorite of psychiatrists everywhere is lorazepam. That has the same half life as Xanax, but doesn't hit as hard.

My opinion is that the clonazepam is doing what it does, and you simply aren't appreciating the effects. This isn't a slam at you. Many people don't find benzos to be all that abusable. If you enjoyed the Xanax you probably should just stick with it. If you want to see if you just have some sort of natural immunity to clonazepam then lorazepam is probably the most easily obtained otherwise (as I said, lorazepam seems to be a psych favorite, so they don't mind handing it out). If you run into the same problems with lorazepam then you know you are just one of those people who isn't big on benzos.

Xanax is most certainly not the "Mac Truck" of benzos at all. Have you ever tried triazolam, temazepam, loprazolam, flunitrazepam, lormetazepam, brotizolam, midazolam, nitrazepam, or even diazepam? Any of those make alprazolam seem insignificant in comparison both in time of onset and in how strong their effects are.

Clonazepam is not "subtle", it's just a weak sedative that's all. It is a more powerful drug than alprazolam in general though - it is a more powerful anticonvulsant, more powerful muscle relaxant and equally as effective, if not moreso as an anxiolytic. It's certainly a much better anxiolytic for long-term use. Alprazolam is just better for panic attacks, but I can think of many, many other benzos better than alprazolam for that same purpose.

 

[benzofan]

They are a lot of fake pills on the net, be carefull, maybe your pills are just placebo, maybe because 9mg without any effects hmmmm very weird for a non tolerant people. The quality of the product is also maybe weird 8(

 

[Swain]

My favorites are alprazolam and temazepam. I don't see how you can consider alprazolam to be insignificant in terms of strength. It is a powerful benzo.

I mean mg for mg it's stronger than temazepam and diazepam (not sure about the others).

 

[kokaino]

My favorites are alprazolam and temazepam. I don't see how you can consider alprazolam to be insignificant in terms of strength. It is a powerful benzo.

I mean mg for mg it's stronger than temazepam and diazepam (not sure about the others).

Mg for mg is just potency by weight. It has no relevance to how weak or strong the effects are. Alprazolam is one of the strongest benzos on a mg for mg basis, but so what. I've been on alprazolam for over 5 years now and I just don't think it's the "Mac Truck of Benzos". It isn't, there are stronger benzos (nitrazepam, triazolam, temazepam, flunitrazepam, lormetazepam, and others). Generally, most of the hypnotics are stronger. I've even found some anxiolytics to be stronger - diazepam, lorazepam, and clonazepam.

Diazepam, lorazepam, and clonazepam are stronger than alprazolam as anticonvulsants, as muscle relaxants, and are at least equal to it as far as being anxiolytics. Diazepam is a stronger sedative aswell. So as you can see, alprazolam is only good for panic attacks. It is a weak anticonvulsant, weak muscle relaxant, and is only moderately sedative.

 

[Tommyboy]

Xanax is most certainly not the "Mac Truck" of benzos at all. Have you ever tried triazolam, temazepam, loprazolam, flunitrazepam, lormetazepam, brotizolam, midazolam, nitrazepam, or even diazepam? Any of those make alprazolam seem insignificant in comparison both in time of onset and in how strong their effects are.

Clonazepam is not "subtle", it's just a weak sedative that's all. It is a more powerful drug than alprazolam in general though - it is a more powerful anticonvulsant, more powerful muscle relaxant and equally as effective, if not moreso as an anxiolytic. It's certainly a much better anxiolytic for long-term use. Alprazolam is just better for panic attacks, but I can think of many, many other benzos better than alprazolam for that same purpose.

Perhaps SPC123 should have said that Xanax is the "Mac Truck" of the most commonly prescribed benzos (alprazolam, clonazepam, lorazepam, and diazepam) in the US, that is. They also seems to be referring to recreational use in terms of which one "fucks you up" the most, so muscle relaxant properties are not really relevant in that regard compared to the anxiolytic and hypnotic effects.

 

[kokaino]

Perhaps SPC123 should have said that Xanax is the "Mac Truck" of the most commonly prescribed benzos (alprazolam, clonazepam, lorazepam, and diazepam) in the US, that is. They also seems to be referring to recreational use in terms of which one "fucks you up" the most, so muscle relaxant properties are not really relevant in that regard compared to the anxiolytic and hypnotic effects.

I wasn't saying alprazolam is useless, hell I've been on it for the past 5 years for anxiety and it does its job well. I just meant it doesn't have the qualities that some of the other benzos do, even in comparison to the "big four" you mention. Out of the 4, I'd say diazepam would "fuck you up" the most, followed by alprazolam then lorazepam and last clonazepam. But that's just my opinion, I'm sure some will feel the same as I do and others won't.