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Opioids is mrphine 100% soluble in water?

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Likely because maybe some morphine is getting stuck in the micron filter . Try dampening the filter first.
 
The Dope Man said:
its soluble to around 60mg/ml I think. I know its around there.

but you also have to take into account the non-active binders and fillers that will lower the solubility.

and as for heat. it wont make the morphine more soluble but will help keep it from gelling.

i wrote a guide on how to IV morphine pills a while back

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/615204-How-to-Iv-morphine-er-pills
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False, adding heat just makes the gel appear to have dissolved, but it is all still there in the solution, which is why you don't heat pills. Heating pills melts the gel, binders, and fillers into the solution when if cold water is used, ALL the morphine goes into the water. The inactive ingredients do not lower the solubility to any significant amount.
 
^ it depends on the type of dope (assuming you mean heroin). The #4 powder (hydrochloride salt) that I'm familiar with certainly does not but if I'm not mistaken, european #3 and black tar do require some cooking. I have zero experience with either of these forms though so pardon my ignorance on that subject.

People get misinformation from friends, what they see others doing in person or through media or a host of other sources. Many try to prep pills to shoot without heating and when the insoluble fillers don't make it into their shot, they worry that they are missing some of the 'good stuff' so they try heating and then it all gets in their shot and SEEMS ok so they assume it is.
 
Cooking pills is not necessarily needed as most opiates are easily soluble in water. With heroin it is a bit different.

There are 4 different types of heroin (according to the DEA, they are as follows):

#1: Morphine freebase or morphine sulfate/HCL
#2: Heroin freebase
#3: Heroin no.4 (so morphine diacetate or diacetylmorphine HCL) but is specifically altered at the point of manufacture to make it conducive for smoking. The technical definition is a 60:40 mix, with 60 representing heroin hcl. and 40 representing caffeine hcl.
#4: Morphine diacetate or otherwise known as diacetylmorphine HCL

#1 & #4 are especially made for IV use, while #2 and #3 can be smoked and shot up (#3 must be mixed with caffeine in order for it to be shot). #2 and #3 may need to be cooked.

So Europeans mostly get heroin #3, #2, and on occasion simply #1. What they call "Polish heroin" in Europe is nothing but heroin #1 (or simply just morphine).

This is all just morphine at different stages of alteration. That is all heroin really is - it is why its a morphine prodrug.
 
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No USA form of heroin requires cooking, tar included. Heat will hinder, not help.

I have never used powder heroin in my life (west coast USA) and I guarantee you heating tar is just something people learned by watching TV or watching other ignorant addicts "teach them" a life-long anti-HR process.
 
Cane2theLeft said:
Thanks for the clarification, tricomb.
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Yeah, your post was 100% accurate, I just wanted to clarify for AMERICANS, that there is no excuse for heating. It's like saying "I cannot spend an additional 30 seconds mashing the tar with something sterile, so I'll just add heat and save time and contaminate my shot."

In the US, there is no pharmaceutical or illicit opioid that should be heated for any reason when creating an aqueous solution. As I've said at least 50 times this week, all this does is degrade your opiate and contaminate your shot with all the mass that is NOT an opiate.
 
I heat my heroin very slightly only because I do a lot in a shot. If I tried to cold shoot it, I wouldnt be able to draw it up through the cotton. Heating it a bit just helps it all get dissolved and easier to pull up.



Oh and also I usually start with say 90 units of water and usually end up with 88-90 units at the end so nothing is lost.
 
Flabu said:
I heat my heroin very slightly only because I do a lot in a shot. If I tried to cold shoot it, I wouldnt be able to draw it up through the cotton. Heating it a bit just helps it all get dissolved and easier to pull up.



Oh and also I usually start with say 90 units of water and usually end up with 88-90 units at the end so nothing is lost.
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FYI, heating it a bit helps the "tar" dissolve, but you gotta know that all the heroin in that tar is released simply by mashing the tar with the sterile end of the plunger a few times. The goal is not to get everything through the cotton and into the rig, the goal is to get the heroin out of the tar and into the water, which is easily accomplished with manual mixing. Seriously, try doing a cold shot instead and you'll see that you've been going to extra effort to get a tar-like substance into your veins, and not a drop more heroin.

Heat will only degrade the heroin, while contaminating the shots with the cut.
 
The Dope Man said:
its soluble to around 60mg/ml I think. I know its around there.

but you also have to take into account the non-active binders and fillers that will lower the solubility.
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I am seeing solubility figures of 50mg/ml in water with 5% dextrose, and 30mg/ml in saline solution (source). These figures were from measurements taken at room temperature [22 degrees Celcius, 76 degrees Fahrenheit].
 
Yeah, so long as you use enough water/saline to opiate ratio according to it's solubility.

From experience, I've always used cold water and it works perfectly.
 
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