What are you not understanding KoB? 30minutes ago you finally acknowledged that there must have been something wrong with your 6-APB.
Also, 30 minutes ago you said you don't know how your brain could be too fried and now you say Before I frid my brain lol!
Keebsington wasn't just lucky to have a good time on this, from my estimate like 80% people enjoy this drug so it's actually you who are minority.
I never had ultra quality mdma, just average or below but I dare to say I find 6-APB just as euphoric too.
Moderators please, this thread need cleaning, like merging posts, theres a lot of useless data now.
Sorry for the confusing contradictions. That's how my brain works. I see things from all angles. Let me explain. When I said my brain was fried, I meant that I'm lower on serotonin than most people. I explained how I have many new "squiggley" connections in my brain from using mdma too often in the past. But when I said "How can I be too fried to roll" I meant just that. I am still able to roll from MDMA. It is not possible to fry your brain to the point of never being able to roll again. Losing the magic- Sure that's possible, but you still will always roll if you give yourself a break, the serotonin always grows back. Just not as "Thick" as I explained in the one post. So that is why I dont see any reason why I shouldnt be able to roll from 6-apb. The only logical reasoning, is that it is not a rolling drug. If it was, I would roll from it. It clearly is more of a tripping drug, which to some people feels like rolling. But for me, the trip feeling dominates any possible way for me to roll from this drug.
And Shifty, I totally believe everything you're saying 100% and I actually agree. You cannot be wrong about what you feel. I am just standing by my theory about 6-apb being a trip drug and not a rolling drug. Therefore the only people who could feel like they are rolling from it, are those who are already happy. 6-apb is not going to raise serotonin levels in people like me who are already low on it. (If it did I would of been happy on it..but my girlfriend wasn't any happier than normal either and her serotonin is fine..so I just dont see 6-apb being a powerful serotonin releaser...and THAT is my definiton of rolling, when you're sertonin is pourin out like crazy!) I think what it does is ENHANCE serotonin levels, and the "Feeling" you get from the drug could be confused for a roll, if you are already high on serotonin. However if you are permanently brain damaged as I am, the 6-apb won't do much at all to help you feel happy. MDMA and MDA (even with my brain damage) still helps me become happy tremendously...when I do it, I am so happy, like a normal person would be. But not the same with 6-apb.
So that is just one reason why I stand by my theory that 6-apb is not a true rolling drug. If it were, then it would make me happy. No doubt. I also think those who do not like to trip, will not enjoy 6-apb as much as MDMA. The reason being 6-apb feels like "tripping" and MDMA does not. So these are the things Im trying to put out there, so newbies to the drug dont get confused into thinking it will be like an MDMA experience. It really is not even in the same ballpark. It is highly possible it will feel like a roll to a lot of people who take it, but for those who are like me, it will just dissapoint them big time if they go in with high expectations. Which is hard not to do with all these fabulous reports on it. I wanted to give an unbiased report on the drug. Both me and my girlfriend did the same batch, probably the same batch as the member on this site did, which he claimed was "The best quality"
So I dont think quality is really the issue here. I think it's how people perceive the drug. I would much rather have low quality mdma then high quality 6-apb. And that is because MDMA releases tons of serotonin with minimal side effects. 6-apb releases hardly any serotonin but has very nasty after effects. It really does amaze me that so many people like it. I react to MDMA the same way as everyone else. So I should react to 6-apb the same way too, if it were truly a rolling drug I'd feel it. I guess it being a psychedelic also, probably overpowers any "Rolling" feeling for me. I am very sensitive to psychs. Maybe that is part of it as well.
Also, Shifty, Are you saying you find 6-apb to be spirtual? I Did not find 6-apb to be spiritual at all. I think it's far from it. Both times I did it, I either ended up talking nonsense or sitting there brain dead and bored. No insights at all. It is the only Psychedelic that I have not found to be spiritual. Shrooms are super spiritual to me, but I hate them very much. Used to love them back in the day before I had my share of bad trips from taking way too many. After that I just wig out way too easy now to enjoy them. It's not the same experience anymore. I also attribute this to being low on serotonin. When I say low, I mean "squiggley" If anyone is confused by that, read my previous posts, on comparing frying a human brain to topping a weed plant.
Later, no hard feelings just go by some damn mdma if u like it so much, the rest of us can keep eating 6a for a long lasting mda esque roll.
lol I wish. I haven't been able to get MDMA for a long time. That's why I had to resort to crappy stuff like 6-apb. 4-FA is not too bad though. Now the 4-FA actually feels similiar to rolling. Much more so than 6-apb. So to those looking to mimic a Roll with a single RC, try the 4-FA over the 6-apb. 4-FA has no visuals (At least for me it didnt and I took a high dose) But still 4-FA is like a tease because it is so weak compared to the real thing. But I like the head tingles you get from 4-FA. Those are not present with MDMA. But after the euphoria wears off, 4-FA has long lasting stimulation which I don't find to be pleasant...(But it's not really all that bad either)
PS- This is off the subject, but when Mephedrone was legal, to anyone of you who tried it...did it feel anything at all like 6-apb? I dont think I ever tried Meph. I think all the bath salts being sold here had MDPV and other shit in them. I say that cuz I never had a bath salt that made me "Roll" but I heard a lot of about Meph feeling like MDMA. So I was curious to know how Meph compares to 6-apb. I loved MDPV but I hated the side effects. It had the best rush and excitement, and kept me going all night. I always thought what I was taking was Meph..but I found out later Meph only lasts about 20 mins then you gotta redose (Sound really addictive..lol) this MDPV would last like 12 hours if you didn't abuse it to the point of having a tolernece. So Im sure I wasnt taking Meph...
PSS- About the multiple posting...I've now been editing my post like 20 times. I was just thinking though, wouldn't a bunch of multiple posts take up the same space as one huge long post? What's the difference?
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I don't know if I mentioned that I did 6-apb on an empty stomach both times. Would it be better if I ate before hand this time? I was looking forward to the nausea they said 6-apb caused, but I never got any. I love the nausea you get on the come up of good MDA and MDMA, cuz once you puke you start blowin doors!
Also I've read just about EVERY report on 6-apb that there is. I was reading for a week straight while waiting for it to come in the mail...I was so excited. I read all about the bad experiences when they first released it. I must of read well over 1000 reports at least. Good and Bad. But there is contradicting info about dosage. Some people say higher doses are better and some say lower. In your experience, what is more likely to give you that "roll" feeling? A low dose or a high one? Also is it safe to take 100 mg's of 5-HTP right before you take the 6-apb? I've also heard contradicting reports on this as well. Ah...isn't the internet a lovely place?
Thanks for any answers and to those with the patience to read my post.
