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The difference between a 'head buzz' and euphoria

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I don't really know how else to ask this question, so here's my best attempt:

Do you find that some substances give a pure euphoria as in comfort, happiness, well being, empathy, etc., where as other psychoactives simply give a fun 'buzzing' or brain massage physical sensation type of feeling that simply results in you feeling happy?

For example, a euphoria could be compared to the feeling you'd have after you just won the gold metal and the world is cheering for you, it's purely in your mind, you are in a true state of euphoria. Whereas a 'head buzz' could be compared to getting a massage or sitting in a hot tub, and the physical sensations on your body (or brain) feel nice so it makes you happy as a result, but the feeling of happiness isn't coming from deep within your mind, it's from external stimuli. Does it make sense what I'm trying to convey?

So basically I'm asking if you find different drugs give feelings of pure euphoria whereas others simply give a pleasurable sensation in the head? If so, which ones? Is there a drug out there, preferably a natural one, that simply gives a buzzy-type feeling in the head?

I find kratom and oxycodone to be good examples of this. Kratom I find makes my mind feel amazing is if I had some deep internal realization, like I love everything and everyone and life is full of wonder. Whereas oxycodone makes all my joints, my body, chest and head buzzes with pleasurable sensations, but I usually don't get those same loving-life feelings, I'm simply happy that my body feels so good.

Thanks! ;)
 
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Yes, my example would be this:

Opiates and stimulants: Euphoria. The world seems like a better place, I feel connected, interested and in love (though I'm never sure with what). In this state nothing can bring me down, I feel like I'm walking with God.

Benzodiazepines/GBL: Drugs like this make me feel calm, relaxed and sociable, but taking a Xanax is not going to make me forget about the fact that say, my girlfriend just dumped me for someone else, or that I've been kicked out of my school, house and am now homeless (these are examples). However, opiates would make all that shit seem like a slight buzz in the background.
 
I would say that euphoria is a pleasant feeling of active enjoyment. You are thinking to yourself "Fuck yea this feels good, I am happy!" Like the feeling you get from Stimulants, opiates and MDMA being perfect examples of very strong euphoria. Most/all recreational drugs produce euphoria at least some of the time, otherwise they would lack the reinforcement needed to be abused.

A buzz is just feeling intoxicated. It does not have to be pleasant. Something that makes you dizzy still gives you a buzz, but not euphoria as such. Perfect example would be anti-psychotics. While taking one produces obvious psychogenic effects -a buzz- they are not euphoric, and generally actually produce dysphoria.
 
Opiates definitely cause euphoria. Oxycodone gave me that "crowd cheering" feeling amplified ten fold. Pure bliss. Caffeine does the same thing, but less intense and also makes me act like a crack head.

The head rush from nicotine is a different feeling. My head just feels funny in a good way, as you said like someone is massaging my brain.

But when I think of the euphoric feeing from oxy I can't separate it from the grimy feeling of how devastating that stuff is to your life. So I prefer the head rush.
 
A "mood shift" is different than euphoria. Euphoria is very distinct, but can feel different depending on the drug used. Euphoria can best be described as "an extreme feeling of good and wellness". Euphoria is pleasurable, by definition. I think in your case you are struggling to acknowledge/feel/perceive the euphoria of oxycodone, for it is more than a "buzzing". Opiates are euphoric drugs, plain and simple. Eukaryote provides a good example with anti-psychotics. When I took 100 mg Thorazine with very little experience with anti-psychotics, I felt quite drugged, but in no way was there euphoria, and it was, in fact, dysphoric. There was light-headedness, dizziness, somnolence, and all, but it was not pleasurable in the least. With other drugs, I have felt floaty and light and buzzy, but also euphoric like with opiates, barbiturates, alcohol, DXM, methyphenidate etc. In my opinion, you are disecting these feelings of euphoria too much, and should just enjoy the drugs for what they do. Opiates are an accquired taste for some.
 
4-Ho-MET+LSD was pure euphoria for me, empathogens like methylone and MDMA are more "buzz"-like (I suspect dosage was too low)
 
I'd say euphoria is where you feel the most satisfied. It's possible to experience euphoria sober if everything is going well in your life. Every substance has it's own different versions of euphoria.
 
euphoria = when you are so confident in the moment, everything feels perfect in life, you could talk to friends you haven't for years and you feel connected to everyone and just so great

euphoria = when you are sitting on your bed, having wave after wave of pure pleasure pulse through you, getting more and more intense and just feeling so incredible

both of these are euphoria really.

I actually tend to get the second euphoria from plugging cocaine then just dosing off lieing on my bed as i enjoy the feeling

first one i get from drinking and snorting cocaine, ill be out at the bar chatting my head off to mates

i enjoy both.

also had the second one of course from my limited expiriences with opiates, but that essentially is the high of opiates, always lol.
 
A head buzz is what I get when I'm smoking a cigarette and euphoria is what I get when I'm nodding on my bed after snorting lines of dope. Its basically when I go "oh fuck this is better than an orgasm." And a head buzz is like meh I feel okay but I'd rather be high on heroin.
 
i've actually been thinking about this same question a lot lately, what's the difference between being high and feeling euphoric?

i always assumed they were the same thing, but then i came to the conclusion that a head buzz/change = drinking a beer, smoking a bowl, maybe a couple lines of coke.
euphoria = doing some dope and feeling like your life is one big soft fluffy cloud you're laying on with Jesus giving you a back massage reassuring you everything in life is going to be okay haha

over-exaggeration i know, but i really don't know how to put euphoria into words, you just gotta feel it for yourself
 
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LOL yeah me either.

Some folks above seem to be reading into my question a little much, it's simply a curiosity topic for discussion that's all. I'm not losing touch with my inner self nor am I not enjoying my drugs because I'm analyzing them too much or anything like that... :p There's so many different chemicals and herbs out there that do all sorts of unique things, both physical and psychological, and that's what makes experimenting with them so much fun! :)

The nicotine buzz is a perfect example of a 'head buzz' where your brain just feels light, fuzzy, tingly, and it's euphoric in a fun, playful way.

The kratom buzz is more like that classic feeling of well-being, comfort, happiness, the 'crowd cheering' feeling as it was described as above.

Opiates like oxycodone I actually find to be a mixture of both now that I really think about it, but still leaning slightly more towards the physical buzz than mind. However, I've never had very high doses of full-agonist opiates though, so I don't know what that's like. I've had IV hydromorphone in the hospital a few times, and that rush was comparable to a nicotine rush, however far, FAR more pleasurable. Perhaps high doses are mostly pure euphoria?

MDMA I find to be a mixture of both as well, however with far more mind euphoria and less physical buzzing.
 
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euphoria is pretty much subjective, i find a strong dissociative buzz (by dissociative i mean ndma antagonist, not fucking salvia or amanita muscaria or such bullshit) incredibly euphoric whereas many find it quite the opposite.
 
treezy z said:
euphoria is pretty much subjective, i find a strong dissociative buzz (by dissociative i mean ndma antagonist, not fucking salvia or amanita muscaria or such bullshit) incredibly euphoric whereas many find it quite the opposite.
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Ah, this is a point I made in another thread where someone was asking for a definition of 'euphoria' in terms of a drug's effect. I explained exactly what you said, that certain effects are euphoric to some simply because they enjoy them so much, while others may not enjoy a particular effect. In general, I would blanket this in with the 'head buzz' effect I'm talking about, where it doesn't particularly affect your mind directly, but it produces a physical sensation that you find pleasurable.

The real 'euphoria' that I speak of is an actual direct effect on your mind set, producing feelings of bliss, love, comfort, anxiety relief, often on a level of intensity not generally achievable without drugs. For example, just because you got a massage doesn't make you want to run around hugging strangers, it simply felt good, put you in a good comfortable place, you're happy and content, but not inhumanly happy. Whereas drugs like MDMA affect your mind and make you think and feel things you wouldn't naturally feel....like hugging strangers and writhing around on the floor caressing yourself and others. Make sense?
 
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