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RCs Big n Dandy 4-FA (4-fluoroamphetamine) thread v.1.0

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homeydontplaythat said:
i do think that now m1 is illegal this is the closest thing to E. too bad it makes some people paranoid to the point of suicidal ideation.
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lol, IMO, it comes closer to E than m1 ever did. but I thought the same thing about 6-apb the first time I tried it. just always had a shitty setting on m1, never at a rave or anything cool like that. The 4-FA gave me some intense time dilation, 4 hours felt like 1 hour. It was quite euphoric, but I was snorting and the peak of the experience didn't come until after I had snorted it down quite a bit, I wonder if there is a big difference between oral doseing and insuffulated. If there is a big difference there, I would think that insuffulation is more energetic, less flooring, less euphoric, and more sociable, and that oral is closer to psychedelic, euphoric, and quite flooring. I have no idea, just a guess, assuming I eventually began to absorb it via my digestion after it left my nose and entered my stomach. liked it more than 4-MEC for sure though.
 
4-fa TRIAL (4-Fluoroamphetamine)

Well first off i would like to say hello i am new here as a member but have read this site for years now :)

I am going to be starting a 2 week DAILY 4-fa (4-Fluoroamphetamine)

i have decided to do 150 mg a day 1 time a day 1 hour after breakfast

i have only used 4-fa 3x in the past two of these times being 150 mg and and one being 200

i really see this being a great treatment in add/adhd and will would like to be one of the first to do a full report in great detail daily

will report back on Thursday :)
 
uhh i wouldnt use it at all just because its a research chemical and not much is known about it

have you tried it before at all? im really interested in the effects, please post an experience and a comparison to say, adderall if youve taken it
 
If you would have read all of my post you would see that i have tryed it and its like a cleaner version of speed IMO very good and there is alot known about this chemical as it has been banned in the uk since 1977 there have been a good amount of studies if you just searched around buddy
 
sorry i just looked on erowid and it said that its not the most reliable, but i guess that it would seem safe if youve done the research
 
id say it seems 75% safe from what i have researched i have had no bad comedowns or any any bad side effects other then the first time not being able to sleep till 3am or so like 10 hrs after i took the drug but now im going to be ingesting it ever day around 9-10am
so by sleep time i should be well ready to sleep great and i love the nice feeling when i get in the bed on this its like i just sink right on into it such a relaxing mellow almost like clean meth but stronger almost like mdma but alot weaker takes 30mins to kick in lasts 3-4 hrs then a nice nice comfort that never really feels like a comedown just kinda fades into a different feeling till i sleep and then wake up 100% refreshed
 
Ive also been looking into this RC. Make sure to update this thread, i'm intrested in what you will experience.
 
you think 4 fa is more like mdma than m1???????????!!! dude, m1 is just a bk version of mdma. i dont know how you get any closer.

the variation between batches is VERY really in my past experience. just like MXE. i mean wild variation. IME again.

the dif between something like smooth amp and something that makes you roll is pretty severe to me.

sadly, the only reason i comment on this thread is because of how much this stuff scares me. fluronated amps are pretty neurotoxic and one can feel it if they admin IV. a huge headache wales through the skull. it really tells one something. i wouldnt touch it ever again.

ok. i should really stop posting. i get i have vicarious PTSD just from witnessing a friend try to off himself on this stuff.

i should be happy that others are able to enjoy it without psychosis and sleep dep(not hand in hand). everyone be safe. no need to sniff this stuff. just bomb it. PLEASE.
 
Merging with the 4-FA thread. Try and keep all discussion contained within there if you can.
 
homeydontplaythat said:
you think 4 fa is more like mdma than m1???????????!!! dude, m1 is just a bk version of mdma. i dont know how you get any closer.
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For me m1 was much less like mdma than 4-mmc, and 4fa far less than either. I also wouldn't rate 4-fa as high as meth or regular amphetamine.

Apparently it's YMMV for any of these type of chems. I have only had 4-fa a handful of times (maybe 8 ), while I have had hundreds of experiences with mdma, 4-mmc, and probably several dozen with m1. Partly that is because 4-fa was not all that interesting in comparison (2 separate batches, 2 years apart, different sources).

If you are gonna try it, do it now while it's cheap and plentiful. Prob won't be around too long. Although I thought that about m1 when I first bought it in 2004, and it was legal here all the way up until last year. 4-mmc, which I thought was a much better drug, didn't last anywhere near as long. 4-fa has probably been on the rc scene about as long as m1 was so maybe it's due already.

Possibly some of you can remember the days before the UK mephedrone/m1 explosion, back when m1 was about $120/g and only a few vendors were carrying it.

Cheers again,
-SimStim
 
So what's the deal with the ridiculously disproportionate pain this causes on insufflation? Does it react badly with moisture, or have the crystals got tiny bees in them, or what?
 
^ Have you read the whole thread? There are at least as much pros as contras regarding 4-FA!
 
I did read the whole thread. The thing is, I don't know organic chemistry at all, so I am in no position to judge anyone as more or less valid. 4-FA does seem very similar to 4-CA structurally, but I don't suppose that means the world.
 
white_magic said:
Hey, I was wondering if anyone here had an opinion on this person's warnings about the potentially high neurotoxicity of 4-FA (due to its great similarity to 4-CA): http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175262 ? This guy seems to be the lone voice on the internet.
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i saw an answer to this somewhere once.... fluorine is more similar to hydrogen than it is to chlorine was one thing i remember hearing... i think someone else mentioned rat studies or something that showed that 4-FA isn't neurotoxic like 4-CA, but i might be imagining that its been a minute.
 
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