SaosinEngaged
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I think we all have thought of Tramadol to at least be a minor aid in easing WD from harsher opiates. I know I've used Tram this way multiple times. However, I've been reading through a lot of Tramadol threads on BL and came across this post that alarmed me greatly:
"ethnobot781
Be _very_ careful using tramadol to deal with withdrawals from true opioids. While trams lower your seizure threshold anyhow the risk appears to be much greater if they are taken after opioid withdrawal has begun. I have read plenty to suggest this risk, hopefully I can update with some links soon - my apologies for the lack of them now, I just changed my web browser to one that syncs more easily with my smartphone and am still going through a big folder of old links sorting the wheat from the chaff so to speak.
For anyone in the UK or Australia Dihydrocodeine is almost as easy to obtain as tramadol and is far safer and more effective for wd's/maintenance IMO. Unfortunately for those of you in the States I believe it is a hassle to obtain outside of fairly rare supervised maintenance therapy programmes but there must be a better choice than tramadol obtainable surely. To the OP, taking trams, especially if you have to take a highish dose due to tolerance, when already in suspected Heroin wd could well be a fast route to the ER with a nasty tonic-clonic seizure (similar to one of the more unpleasant forms of epilepsy), or worse if you fit badly alone with all the risks that entails.
Just thought you folks should be made aware - stay safe"
(It is from a thread titled "snorting tramadol" here on BL)
Now I saw this and immediately became very concerned. I've NEVER heard this before and generally have assumed using Tram for opiate WD is kind of a "best practice" type thing.
Can anyone substantiate or refute this guy's claims? Or perhaps back it up with literature they can find? I genuinely want to know if using Tram for WD is legitimately safe or an increased risk of seizures as this guy claims (and seems to really know what he's talking about).
"ethnobot781
Be _very_ careful using tramadol to deal with withdrawals from true opioids. While trams lower your seizure threshold anyhow the risk appears to be much greater if they are taken after opioid withdrawal has begun. I have read plenty to suggest this risk, hopefully I can update with some links soon - my apologies for the lack of them now, I just changed my web browser to one that syncs more easily with my smartphone and am still going through a big folder of old links sorting the wheat from the chaff so to speak.
For anyone in the UK or Australia Dihydrocodeine is almost as easy to obtain as tramadol and is far safer and more effective for wd's/maintenance IMO. Unfortunately for those of you in the States I believe it is a hassle to obtain outside of fairly rare supervised maintenance therapy programmes but there must be a better choice than tramadol obtainable surely. To the OP, taking trams, especially if you have to take a highish dose due to tolerance, when already in suspected Heroin wd could well be a fast route to the ER with a nasty tonic-clonic seizure (similar to one of the more unpleasant forms of epilepsy), or worse if you fit badly alone with all the risks that entails.
Just thought you folks should be made aware - stay safe"
(It is from a thread titled "snorting tramadol" here on BL)
Now I saw this and immediately became very concerned. I've NEVER heard this before and generally have assumed using Tram for opiate WD is kind of a "best practice" type thing.
Can anyone substantiate or refute this guy's claims? Or perhaps back it up with literature they can find? I genuinely want to know if using Tram for WD is legitimately safe or an increased risk of seizures as this guy claims (and seems to really know what he's talking about).
