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Is there anything I can do to convince my friend to stop shooting OP 80's

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Me and the kid go way back and have a similar drug history, but he moved out to cali and picked up a tar habit while I stuck with tooting opanas at my worst. WHen he got back home he got to banging OP 80s like it was his job and if you have ever seen someone do this it is disturbing. Well anyway I stop by there the other day and he tells me he is diagnosed with some kind of malignant cancer in his lung(which was due to a car accident lodging a bone fragment)as he says. I tried to convince him that it was more likely due to his habit, but the minute I say anything he shuts down and says everyone are hypocrites b/c they do this a that and have no right to tell him not to do op's. Is he a lost cause? I may attempt to go by one more time I just have to keep my distance as I get tempted easily and have been clean for a bit. His bloated arms with his rapid weight loss is sad. ANy advice appreciated!
 
All you can do is support him. Let him know how you feel about his actions, that you care about him and your intentions are pure.
I don't know, maybe if he's spending all his money on Oxy bring him some food (if you can afford it)
I'm not exactly sure. In the end, it's his decision and you can't force him to change that. You can try to support him in making other choices, but ultimately it's up to him.
Best of luck with it all, I hope he comes out alright.
 
It is very hard to voice your negative opinions towards drug use to an active user. I think the only and best thing you can do is to make sure he knows you love and care about him. Usually excessive negative responses towards drug user will make the user withdrawal. I know how painful it must be to watch someone be town down that way.

You need to think about yourself and how much emotions you are willing to sacrifice for him. You also need to keep yourself safe from accepting the drug yourself again.
 
Above posters are right OP...This fella aint gonna see what you are saying...Not unless he wants to and he seems to be, well, in denial....Hes not even at the first step...admission...Which as you proly know is also the hardset step...But if he dosent think hes doing anything wrong, mate, you got no hope in helping him....

Except to love and support him and try and work out exactly how much of your emotions you can spare on him...because he will bleed you dry given the chance...Not money wise but emotionally...and if he isnt on the up and coming, he aint going to accept your help anyway...
Your FIRST priority is keeping yourself away from harm too...stardust and death have nailed it....
 
thanks guys! Its what I thought. I cant exactly punch him in the face and tell him to stop though I want to. The worst thing is the doctors prescribed him kpins and tabs. Is this doctor retarded? His arms make me think of that STP song dead and bloated. 26 year olds dont just get odd lung cancers normally or do they?
 
You can let him know you are concerned but you will not be able to get him to stop. It is important to let him know you are there for him but refuse to enable him. This is more effective if you are not using.

I knew I had a problem long before I quit (I am talking years) when a friend or family member would tell me they were worried it would reinforce that. The path to getting your shit back together takes a very long time for some of us.
 
No. I couldn't convince my friend to shot shooting heroin, even months later when I felt like I had one last chance to prove something to her about her life. They won't listen, your friend is an addict and all that matters is the feeling of getting high. Just support your friend and make sure they're being safe :/ I'm sending my love your way because I know how hard this can be <3
 
The fact that your friend has lung cancer may be a factor, too. He may feel that his life is doomed anyway. Do you know what his prognosis is? It must be terrifying to be 26 years old and have lung cancer and be suffering from addiction as well. In addition to all the good suggestions from everyone else, maybe you could offer to go to a couple of his doctor visits with him and listen to what they say and help him make sense of it all. I know my husband is going through cancer treatments right now and he is in a total mental fog so having someone else there can really help. My heart really goes out to both of you.<3
 
Droppersneck said:
thanks guys! Its what I thought. I cant exactly punch him in the face and tell him to stop though I want to. The worst thing is the doctors prescribed him kpins and tabs. Is this doctor retarded? His arms make me think of that STP song dead and bloated. 26 year olds dont just get odd lung cancers normally or do they?
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Young people get cancer all the time it may be rare but that doesnt mean shooting the OPs caused it. In fact I would wager to guess they didnt cause it. It sounds like dude is dying if your really his friend you will support him. If I had cancer you can bet your ass I would be shooting dope like its going out of style wouldnt you?
 
Of course you can get lung cancer at 26 and i have actually known people who have gotten it around that age. Though environmental factors where most likely at play in the cases Ive seen. No doubt your friend is suffering from alot of depression and hopelessness over the diagnoses and as we all know quitting anything when your miserable is a hard job. I have felt that way many times and it fuels the downward spiral of drug addiction more then anything else. Not to mention the pain that comes from cancer that can't be treated without opiates will complicate matters more. A clonazepam and opiate prescription is hardly unreasonable of the doctor given the circumstances here.

You can't make someone kick because a person will only quit when they want to and are ready. Is your friend atleast using basic harm reduction such as using micron filters when shooting the pills? If he is not that could very well be one area in which you could get through to him on. Ive never had opana as we don't have oxymorphone here but if the pills are anything like say mscontins then using hard reduction techniques can make the difference between getting no complications other then a ragging addiction and track marks as opposed to say having your arm rot off due to shooting pills with alot of shit in them.
 
crimsonjunk said:
^^^I think he is talking about the new oxycodone OPs and not opana but I could be wrong
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Thanks everyone first off. And yes they are the plastic op-ocs. lol @ micron filters he wont filter period. Before tar it was years of crushing daluadids and pouring the powder directly into the rig, drawing up water and blasting away the yellow liquid. Could this be a case of the talc in his lungs cus there is plenty their?
 
Droppersneck said:
Thanks everyone first off. And yes they are the plastic op-ocs. lol @ micron filters he wont filter period. Before tar it was years of crushing daluadids and pouring the powder directly into the rig, drawing up water and blasting away the yellow liquid. Could this be a case of the talc in his lungs cus there is plenty their?
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Good fucking jesus 8o . I wouldn't doubt but talc and other shit in those pills did play a factor in his cancer. I could be wrong on that but that shit cannot be good for you especially if you don't even cotton filter your pills or smack first!
 
Your friend, very sadly, does not value his life. I feel for him. He had whatever pain and discouragement led him into the recklessness in the first place and now he has a full blown addiction and a possibly fatal disease. No doubt his self worth is taking a brutal beating. I guess the best thing that you can do as a friend is to keep yourself healthy and sane and moving forward in your own life and be as compassionate as you can, when you can, however that plays out. Like people said, that may be bringing food, giving him rides, etc. but make no mistake, you cannot save him. I am sorry for you as it is obvious from your thread how much you care for him and the strength of your bond.<3
 
paranoid android said:
Good fucking jesus 8o . I wouldn't doubt but talc and other shit in those pills did play a factor in his cancer. I could be wrong on that but that shit cannot be good for you especially if you don't even cotton filter your pills or smack first!
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This is the only reason I started this thread I just didnt clarify enough. He even convinced me to do it afew times like a dumbass. I would say a solid 3 years of booting Dillies and roxies with no filter. Now is gets 2 op80s files down with screw places powder in spoon with water and heats the shit out of it till the ball of goo gets smaller.Then AT LEAST cotton filters into 2 rigs and injects both at the same time. He smokes but no more then a half a pack a day. This kid would do krocodile if he had some.
 
shit op....I wouldnt be surprised if his had indeed bought this lung disease upon himself...Shooting pills that way...I too was a heater of pills, i had no idea about heating oxys untill i came here last year and read about it...You really dont heat pills...His lungs will be full of that shit...My lungs are terrible and i was shooting a pack of oxys 80mg a day...and i heated them all..I sound worse than an astmatic and im not one..That whistle that puts me to sleep every night in my chest is not good..Heating his pills is such a bad thing...not to mention crushing them and putting them directly into the fit...OMFG!!!I havent heard of anything sooo harmful since i heard about krokadile....Make sure he dont find out about that shit OP...He suicidal do you think?<3
 
Miss Kirsty said:
shit op....I wouldnt be surprised if his had indeed bought this lung disease upon himself...Shooting pills that way...I too was a heater of pills, i had no idea about heating oxys untill i came here last year and read about it...You really dont heat pills...His lungs will be full of that shit...My lungs are terrible and i was shooting a pack of oxys 80mg a day...and i heated them all..I sound worse than an astmatic and im not one..That whistle that puts me to sleep every night in my chest is not good..Heating his pills is such a bad thing...not to mention crushing them and putting them directly into the fit...OMFG!!!I havent heard of anything sooo harmful since i heard about krokadile....Make sure he dont find out about that shit OP...He suicidal do you think?<3
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Unfortunatley at least yall have real OCs their. I am talking about the new plastic OP-ocs here in america so its even worse. I would say he is suicidal I have seen the kid put an 80 and opana 40 and some fentynal into a few shots and take it all while fucked up on booze and bars. He coined it the death blow. his rich ass parents need to cut his dumb ass off. He has never held a real job. I may have been an addict but I have always been able to function and know when to say when for the most part. How many is a pack of 80s?
 
Droppersneck said:
Unfortunatley at least yall have real OCs their. I am talking about the new plastic OP-ocs here in america so its even worse. I would say he is suicidal I have seen the kid put an 80 and opana 40 and some fentynal into a few shots and take it all while fucked up on booze and bars. He coined it the death blow. his rich ass parents need to cut his dumb ass off. He has never held a real job. I may have been an addict but I have always been able to function and know when to say when for the most part. How many is a pack of 80s?
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30 tabs to a pack...I have never suggested an intervention to anyone before as i bdont beleive in them,but fuck man...it might be a lifesaver in this case...what would his folks say if they knew?
 
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