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Smoking OC's

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GarageFlower

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Is it really that bad for you?

I enjoy smoking H, I love the whole ritual of it, chasing it on the foil etc..

I have smoked OC's in the past and found out that they STINK and burn up rather fast.

I usually either rail or chew mine when I get the tabs but I get most of mine in liquid - 10mg/ml and I take ~100mg/day and sometimes .3 H on top of that.

Is it a waste to smoke them and is it really bad for your lungs and organs 'coz the smokes real harsh.

GF.
 
Does anyone else have any experience with the liquid?

To me the tablets feel stronger for some reason, can't put my finger on it.

Chewing 2 x 20mg tablets feels stronger than 40mg of IR liquid, how can that be?
 
Drugs can be quite subjective in their effects. Oxycodone is specifically formulated to have a strong oral effect. Smoking, snorting or plugging won't give you the same impact.

If you are determined to smoke oxycodone, I'd suggest trying a vaporizer.
 
Smoking oxy..or any other pill, is a total waste of your drugs. You'd get higher if you just swallowed them, man. I don't know where this whole smoking of oxy thing came from, I've been hearing about people doing it..and it baffles me because it's pretty well known, (or at least I thought it was) that smoking pills is not a valid ROA.. you just waste it all. Snort them, chew them, plug them, or shoot them. Those are the only ROA's that will actually provide any value to you in regards to pills.
 
It's not a waste. It works, though with roxicodone it's easy to burn it up by accident and not get good effects. The original oxycontin smoked better than some tar. Pill are made of sugars, most street drugs are cut with sugars. Though smoking the roxycodone with the V on it was very harsh and I can only recommend the ones with the M 30 or the original oxycontin.

It's probably not the healthest thing to do, but to say IV is safer is bullshit.
 
It's probably not the healthest thing to do, but to say IV is safer is bullshit.
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When an IV is done properly, it is one of the safest(if not the absolute safest) ways to administer a drug

Pill are made of sugars
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No, they're not. Here's an example of the typical inactive binders/fillers in a pill(in this example a purdue oxy)
-Ammonio Methacrylate Copolymer
-Hypromellose
-Lactose
-Magnesium stearate
-Polyethylene glycol 400
-Povidone
-Sodium hydroxide
-Sorbic acid
-Stearyl alcohol
-Talc
-Titanium Dioxide
-Triacetin
-Polysorbate 80
-Yellow Iron Oxide
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When an IV is done properly... That goes for anything. When done properly fire eating, sword swallowing, and free diving from hundreds of feet into a small poor are perfectly safe. The problem is, how easy is it to screw up, and what are the consequences of doing so?
 
Still how is it worse than cigarettes?And how is it safer to inject all that directly into your bloodstream? IV has the risk of infection, more likely to OD, the binders reak havok on the cardiovascular system, it's very addictive, and no one uses clean needles and proper technique all the time. I've never met anyone who uses a micron filter. The reality on the streets is it's safer to smoke pills some pills than shoot them. I never said it was safer than oral, the safest ROA. Smoking pills is the reality on the streets. What if someone addicted to smoking oxy comes on bluelight for advice and everyone gives them shit for smoking pill and scares them away?

Smoking pills is nothing new. The largest heroin epidemic in history was in 1920-1940's China, where opium addicts switch to smoking heroin/caffeine pills as a cheap replacement for opium. It's decendant yaba(meth/caffeine pills) is widely smoked in Asia. And Mandrax pill are widely smoked in India and some parts of Africa. It's not the healthest thing to do, but it's a reality on the streets.
 
Still how is it worse than cigarettes?
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I never made that claim.
And how is it safer to inject all that directly into your bloodstream? IV has the risk of infection, more likely to OD, the binders reak havok on the cardiovascular system, it's very addictive, and no one uses clean needles and proper technique all the time.
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You completely misunderstand what I mean by a "proper" IV. A proper IV would be one using sterile equipment, the correct filter, and a pure compound free of any impurities and binders/fillers. I'm talking about something like in a hospital setting, where all these factors are (hopefully) taken care of. I'm not talking about what is "on the street" at all. When done in this way, IV is one of the safest if not the safest ROA.
I very much hope that clears that up. :)
I've never met anyone who uses a micron filter.
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That's truly unfortunate.
 
Oh, ok.

Really for the micron filter to catch on with drug users the govenment would have to subsidize them and educate them.
 
delta_9 said:
If it "goes for anything" then I fail to see how it's relevant. :\
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Exactly my point. It was silly for you to say "When an IV is done properly, it is one of the safest(if not the absolute safest) ways to administer a drug". By adding the "when done properly" you nullify your point. Anything not inherently dangerous is safe when done properly.
 
I used to be addicted to the original OC, and smoking was my favorite ROA, it works pretty well(not as efficiently, but more of a rush for sure) and i learned to LOVE the taste of them, and ofcourse chasing the pill was always fun. I do regret the damage i probably did to my lungs, but those were the most blissful times of my life.
 
THC2LSD said:
Still how is it worse than cigarettes?And how is it safer to inject all that directly into your bloodstream? IV has the risk of infection, more likely to OD, the binders reak havok on the cardiovascular system, it's very addictive, and no one uses clean needles and proper technique all the time. I've never met anyone who uses a micron filter. The reality on the streets is it's safer to smoke pills some pills than shoot them. I never said it was safer than oral, the safest ROA. Smoking pills is the reality on the streets. What if someone addicted to smoking oxy comes on bluelight for advice and everyone gives them shit for smoking pill and scares them away?

Smoking pills is nothing new. The largest heroin epidemic in history was in 1920-1940's China, where opium addicts switch to smoking heroin/caffeine pills as a cheap replacement for opium. It's decendant yaba(meth/caffeine pills) is widely smoked in Asia. And Mandrax pill are widely smoked in India and some parts of Africa. It's not the healthest thing to do, but it's a reality on the streets.
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It is not safer to IV pills. Smoking and IVing pills are both a big fail. Have you ever tasted OC when smoking it? You might as well smoke plastic.. it's fucking disgusting.

I would probably smoke an OC before shooting a non-micron-filtered pill though.

You are much better off just injecting or smoking heroin then using OC's any way other than orally/sniffing. All those pills you mention be ing smoked in different countries are an epidemic. Extremely unhealthy. The reality is, is that you are guaranteed to develop chronic lung problems from smoking pills. 100%. You are giving your self cancer.
 
Smoking a pill, and inhaling the fillers/binders (think about the weight of a pill vs the dosage of drug) is not safe and is not good for your lungs. I don't think you can quantify it as better/worse than a cigarette, but it is not a good idea. It is also wasteful and you are likely to just frazzle your opioids.

IV is not a particularly safe ROA but delta is correct that if done properly (sterile, fresh needle, micron filter, ampoule of bacteriostatic water, good technique etc) the risk is reduced. It is still pretty risky indeed though - you are at risk of overdose, vein damage, venous thrombosis, infection (you are shooting a non-sterile product, the steps above reduce the risk but not to zero), endocarditis and obviously abscess and even amputation if you miss your shot or hit an artery. IV is safer than IM/SC in some ways (the latter two have a very high risk of abscess) but it is important that you are educated about the risks.

IVing pills has an increased risk too due to the fillers/binders - they can lodge in your lungs causing a progressive and irreversible lung disease called talcosis/pneumoconiosis which can be likened to emphysema. The risk of this is reduced if you use a micron filter. You may not have met anyone who uses one but that is no reason for you to assume it is safe not to. The symptoms of talcosis develop later on so it would not be clear that you are doing damage initially.

Related reading:
IV complications megathread
Micron filtering
Why you should micron filter
Case studies thread
 
Yeah I mean just because you never met someone with a micron filter.. it's not like they are a mysterious piece of medical equipment the government needs to educate us on lol. You can easily order them off the net. You might think 3 or 4 bucks is expensive for single filter.. but you can get quite a few pills through that and have a micron filtered solution ready to go now thats good for multiple shots.. not just a single shot.

You dont need one for every pill you use.. Check this out http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/481622-Micron-Filtering-Mega-Thread-and-FAQ?. That's everything you need to know.. now theres no reason you can't be the one to start a revolution...be the one to show your friends the light.
 
mr.scagnattie said:
I don't know where this whole smoking of oxy thing came from...
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