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Amphetamine: What actually is it?

Not having an interim period of two decades or more between the experiences might be a very good start... :)

Where did two decades or more come from? Sorry, I know I should swallow it down, but I demand a right to reply/clarify :)

I quit my bad billy habit around 98 following 5 years of heavy abuse (20 since I first dabbled back in 78 ffs!). That's not to say I quit completely though. I've dabbled on and off since. The quality really dropped off for me early 2000, then came back briefly in a batch around 2005. Self preservation has since limited my use, but it's always been my drug of choice, so I still slipped occasionally. Poor quality up until last year just about did it for me though. Then I got to try some fantastically greasy/stinky stuff at the start of last year from an old contact. The magic was well and truly there. I resisted buying any as I'm greedy and want a few more years on what's left of this planet. Inevitably the bug got me and I went back in search but the supply had dried up. I then tried some of this magic 80% Dutch stuff a few months ago....meh.

So, hardly "two decades" or more and selective memories. Just mostly shite speed. So :p =D

That's me done now...
 
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Thanks for that it fills in a few gaps, I've been as far as Long Beach Mississippi (Before it got blown away) and spent a fair bit of time around the Boston area as well as crossing over into Canada to Toronto. The States feels more like a continent to me than a country being from essentially , in comparison a little island.

People in the UK will read your posting of the phrase "Well Massive" and laugh, I know it was unintentional but it would be common place, especially in the south for a younger person than me to sat something like "see dat new shop they built in town it is well massive" shame I can't do the accent in text =D
 
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Where did two decades or more come from? Sorry, I know I should swallow it down, but I demand a right to reply/clarify :)

Only from the post of mine you quoted and replied to, which read:

Sammy G said:
What I will say for certain is that making comparisons that rely on (possibly rose-tinted) memories of a vintage of two decades or more is at best unreliable and at worst pretty bizarre.

Keep up! :D

Must be all that nineties vintage super-speed playing havoc with your memory, eh? ;)
 
Thanks for that it fills in a few gaps, I've been as far as Long Beach Mississippi (Before it got blown away) and spent a fair bit of time around the Boston area as well as crossing over into Canada to Toronto. The States feels more like a continent to me than a country being from essentially , in comparison a little island.

People in the UK will read your posting of the phrase "Well Massive" and laugh, I know it was unintentional but it would be common place, especially in the south for a younger person than me to sat something like "see dat new shop they built in town it is well massive" shame I can't do the accent in text =D

Just imagine a typical mid-southern accent + tweaker ramble and you've got it.

On a related note, its a solid 14 hours after I took the Dexedrine XRs and...I'm still wide awake. I'd like to go to sleep now, though...
 
Only from the post of mine you quoted and replied to...

What I will say for certain is that making comparisons that rely on (possibly rose-tinted) memories of a vintage of two decades or more is at best unreliable and at worst pretty bizarre.

Keep up! :D

Haha, nice try. But fail. Wrong quote. Keep up! ;)

When I first quoted you, I was arguing for the benefits of subjective decision making. Different quote. Different time. What I took issue with was in THIS second quote I used:

Not having an interim period of two decades or more between the experiences might be a very good start...

Who is this mystery person that's had an interim of two decades or more between experiences that you use in your argument? If I was comparing speed of today directly with speed of 20 years ago or more that you implied, I would accept your argument because I wouldn't have a very strong one. But I certainly wasn't - dunno if anyone else was. I've had it on and off for years as I said. And I compare it to all my good and bad experiences over that time. Subjective, as I first said. There was better consistency during the 90's sure, but I've had some good classic stuff since as well.

The bottom line for me is that good speed was easy to get 15 - 20 years ago. It was everywhere. Speed like that is now harder to get, that's all. The forums are full of reports of poor speed, it's nothing new. This so called 80% Dutch stuff is what I take issue with. I've tried it and it just isn't the same IMO. It has nothing to do with age since I had some really good stuff just over a year ago. Hence my beef with your "rose tinted" comment. blah, blah....[ repetition warning]

I would also like to add that my best speed days were when I was in my 30's. So no "youth" effects there. Don't grow old too quick people. There is life after 30 if you let it happen. Jealous? Moi? Hell yeah! =D

Must be all that nineties vintage super-speed playing havoc with your memory, eh? ;)

My brain has taken a hit for sure. Hows yours? Semantics huh? ;)
 
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Just admit it, you replied without really digesting what you were replying to.

Nice (if convoluted) attempt to wriggle out of it by the way, but it ain't gonna wash. ;)
 
Just admit it, you replied without really digesting what you were replying to.

Nice (if convoluted) attempt to wriggle out of it by the way, but it ain't gonna wash. ;)

Haha..come on Sam, that's not like you. You can do better than that feeble reply. Swerving a complete time zone around my points and questions with a final little dig is a weak retort even for you ;) So come on, it's not difficult - and I'll keep it brief this time - who were you referring to when you said:

Not having an interim period of two decades or more between the experiences might be a very good start...

Since you quoted me when you said it, it seems reasonable to assume you meant me. If it wasn't me, then who?
 
Since you quoted me when you said it, it seems reasonable to assume you meant me. If it wasn't me, then who?

I quoted you in response to you quoting me and questioning the point I made in said quote (which was made before you entered the debate, and therefore obviously not addressed at you specifically). Which is a bit of a mouthful, sorry. :)

That's the reason I didn't address your points, as I didn't consider them relevant to any argument I was actually making; rather they were a response to what you believed me to be saying.
 
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Aha! That and a bit of whizz aged around..... hmm, 19 or something? Well, youthful high spirits and a load of phet and I'd be trying to dance to every single drum in the breakbeat for hours at a time.
 
This thread is a joke. If someone says a pill is over 200mg and it tests at 220mg......then why would you doubt them if they say their phet is 80%, 70%, 50% etc. Probably the main problem here is most of the people who say they tried it bought it from the 'trusted UK dealer(s)' on that even more trustworthy site haha. The stuff I had from Holland was rocketfuel. Concidering the phet habbit I had in the past and I've done shards of meth I should know what strong phet is. The golden oldies who've tried the likes of those 'black bomber' capsules and proper pharm grade amphetamine pills fair enough. Obviously there probably is a difference between 99% and 50-80, but if your talking about putty or paste your not going to get much higher than that no matter what decade we're talking.

Only time I've ever had stronger speed was when it was sulphate crystals from a Lithuanian gang in Ireland, and it wasn't much stronger, a bit, just a bit cleaner on the comedown. Still days of suffering though as per usual with amphetamines.
 
Concidering the phet habbit I had in the past and I've done shards of meth I should know what strong phet is.

I didn't know you were an ex amphetamine addict. How long were you addicted for and how the hell did you stop? This person I care about is in a bad bad way, about 10 years in, h and benzo's too as on the side addictions which is common with amphetamine addiction.
 
I quoted you in response to you quoting me and questioning the point I made in said quote (which was made before you entered the debate, and therefore obviously not addressed at you specifically). Which is a bit of a mouthful, sorry. :)

That's the reason I didn't address your points, as I didn't consider them relevant to any argument I was actually making; rather they were a response to what you believed me to be saying.

Oh dear. This IS getting really tedious now isn't it? Apologies to everyone else.

It's really not difficult. Though you're making a good attempt at it! I was already involved Sam. I joined in (#31) before your now infamous "What I will say for certain is that making comparisons that rely on (possibly rose-tinted) memories of a vintage of two decades or more is at best unreliable and at worst pretty bizarre." (#35)

To which I said: "What better way is there than to make a subjective comparison?"

Your reply: "Not having an interim period of two decades or more between the experiences might be a very good start..."

Since then, I've just wondered where that statement came from, and why. Who in this thread said or implied that they had endured a gap of 20 years or more between taking speed? Just admit that you made that bit up for effect :) Anyway, presuming you now accept I was already involved, Does that grant me the privilege of that illusive answer? For the sake of humanity. Please? :)

I'm becoming a pedant now Sam. I hate that, and will never forgive you. But I like facts, not spin. I hate that even more. So give me peace before bedtime I beg you.
 
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