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mrflowers00

mrflowers00

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can anyone kick a drug addiction if they don't really want to cause i don't think it's possible with even the slightest doubt that you want to quit
 
I think it's very important that yiu need to have at least an inkling of a desire to get off drugs...even if you want to do it for others initially, that could be enough, I'm personally not a fan of 12 step programs, but there's a saying "fake it 'till you make it" which I really like.

Mst people get clean at first due to external forces such as legal problems, work problems, health or family problems, so it's not so outrageous.
 
In my opinion, it's going to be pretty hard to quit if you don't 100% believe you want to quit. You are going to have to come to a point in your life that you have to make a decision.
 
mrflowers00 said:
it might just be me but i can't quit even though i kinda want to i really like being high so i can't stop
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I feel the same. I know I have to but it requires commitment, I'm struggling to because it's not just recreational, I use to function and I've got so used to that I don't know where to start, it's not just one thing but multiple substances which makes it a bit harder.

I've started to attend CA meetings, only one so far which was last week, but there is another tomorrow which I'm planning to attend.

Also agree with Znegative about the 12 step programme, I don't think that will work for me personally but it has helped many others, down to the individual I think really. Other than the step programme just meeting and talking with people who understand and accept you and give support at these meetings I think is what will help me the most.

I hope so anyway cos I don't know what else to do!
 
i have a difficult situation because i use drugs for my chronic pain and panic attacks but i abuse them to get high so i don't know what to do
 
mrflowers00 said:
i have a difficult situation because i use drugs for my chronic pain and panic attacks but i abuse them to get high so i don't know what to do
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I know it's a tough situation, I've become physically dependent on stuff so I'ts past the stage of just choosing not to, what the most sensible thing to do is excercise some disciplined self control stick to a minimum amount and taper down gradually until it can be stopped altogether without experiencing any ill effects from the withdrawal.

As well meaning I try to be at times, the self control can go straight out the window even when it defies any sensible logic to use more when you know that you shouldn't. I might do well for a couple of days, sticking to the smallest amount required to not experience physical withdrawal effects, planning to reduce it further, and then I find myself absolutely caning it and losing all self control I tried to have before.

Some people can be sensible, control their use and stick to a set limit. I have always had a problem with having any sort of limit with most substances and so I inevetibly end up in a pattern of abuse, pushing it as high as I can go.

It either all or nothing. When I do get away from these addictions it will have to be permanent, living completely sober because I know I am not able to pick something up and have enough control to not get taken by it.
 
no i dont think its possible. you, as a person, need to get to a point where you truly want to stop otherwise it wont work. i know because i've been there many times before. i've reluctantly quit opiates and relapsed 3 times. a couple months after the 3rd time i finally told my self this really needs to stop so i did cold turkey. i've been clean of everything for almost a month now i barely even smoke weed anymore, and it feels great to be back in my head... because when i was addicted to opiates i was completely out of my head.
 
lars90 said:
Well whats the point of getting cleen if you dont want to be cleen? wtf?
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Totally agree, however I never thought I would be clean. I probably never would have if I didn't have some major consequences waiting for me if i get caught with anything in my system. Fuck I'm scared to use listerine with alcohol in it cause they test ffor 80 hour alcohol.

I would suggest NA or other classes/meetings with people like you to which you can relate. But I have a lot of respect to people that just quit because they need/want to fuck I never would have if it wasn't for the dang ole law kinda forcing it on me.

It's easily the hardest thing I have done though with my life so far, fuck man it sucks not associating with people that you used to love to hang with because I know Im gonna be tempted. I have played the Oh I can hang out with them and not take anything game before and holy shit thats like playing with a old raggidy loaded gun with the hammer back no matter how much you practice anything could happen
 
I willed myself to quit using heroin despite not really "wanting" to quit.

So yes, it is possible. You are filled with an immense amount of will power.

You are always welcome to PM me for moral support. Quitting drugs you are addicted to is never easy but it can always be done. <3
 
I think that if you haven't truly got the desire to get clean then you would find it very difficult to do so.
If the desire to get clean isn't there then you are hardly gonna put in the effort to get clean.
 
mrflowers00 said:
no i need the drugs i can't live a normal life without them i just want to stop abusing them
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Those who cannot stop abusing certain drugs (such as myself), by way of reason and experience, cannot be expected to be able to use those very same substances in a scheduled, non-excessive manner. The idea that "i need the drugs i can't live a normal life without them" isn't necessarily a fact until you've exhausted all other options. I mean, all other options. There is such an inspiring myriad of growth, experience and success stories here in TDS involving wildly variable approaches towards psychiatric illnesses. A simple search for symptoms that you suffer from ought to bring up a veritable wealth of positive reading material for you, and very interesting, too. I love the various insights offered in a great thread; it's almost more engaging than readin but with the same unifying outcome - relief from the weights they had to bear for so many years. I am one of those people, just like you.
 
mrflowers00 said:
no i need the drugs i can't live a normal life without them i just want to stop abusing them
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What are you prescribed? Is it benzos and some opiate type painkillers? I personally couldn't control using a prescription that I could get a high from and would end up abusing it the same way as you most likely, I haven't been in that position but with the way I do abuse substances it would be quite possible.

Have a try with what Vaya has said, you may be able to find a drug free solution, which is the best position you could want be in.
 
Groundhog said:
Have a try with what Vaya has said, you may be able to find a drug free solution, which is the best position you could want be in.
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When in the throes of deep depression, it is very easy for me to allow for even the possibility of being happy to go unnoticed; so, too, is it with being in the throes of dependence on medications. Not always, but sometimes - sure.

But there is a force opposite depression working in our lives. And there exists a unique way by which we might conceivably live better (more fulfilling, I've noticed) lives without drugs that we've become even psychologically dependent on. This happened for me with many benzos over many years - despite long periods of physiological withdrawal symptoms, my mind itself was crawling crazily with the perceived notion that I needed something. Right then and there. Ugh - 'tis no way to live.

All I have is my experience this time around, but if I can be of some help to you, OP, please don't hesitate but to ask.

~ Vaya
 
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