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Opioids IM and IV hydromorphone

DemonSeed

DemonSeed

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Hello BlueLight,

I got 18 mg hydromorph Contin capsules. My opiates tolerance is killing my buzz... I get a okay buzz from 12-18 mg insufflation and am nodding out at 40-45 mg. I am poor and I wanna save my drugs and explore other and better ROA... the act of plugging is a buzzkill for me and I have internal hemmoroids. I tried to plug before, the high was not so different from insufflation IMO... got my hemmoroids to bleed so what about IM and IV?

I have done IM twice... I have a seringue phobia... but just pressing it into one of my shoulder muscle is just so easy. I just tried and now am less afraid of injection. But when I came to IV I was never able to pierce into a vein of my arm... my question is where and how can I make a vein spot hard enough to shoot up easily? Is it worth to IM, can I get a rush with an appropiate dosage, is it better than insufflation, which muscle HM has the best affinity, can a high dose or / and a particular musclespot gets me sortof a rush? I want to get that massive rush of euphoria I read about... some help and advices which would lead me there... would be extremely appreciated! Thank you and be safe everyone! ;)
 
I would recommend you do not IV/IM a pharmaceutical time released tablet-form hydromorphone. If you must, be sure to Micron Filter the solution to minimize the risk of abscess.

Rectal is the best, safer ROA, but I realize the hemorrhoids would make that difficult.
 
tricomb said:
I would recommend you do not IV/IM a pharmaceutical time released tablet-form hydromorphone. If you must, be sure to Micron Filter the solution to minimize the risk of abscess.

Rectal is the best, safer ROA, but I realize the hemorrhoids would make that difficult.
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^Plugging ftw.

Sort out the haemorrhoids and you'll be in for a whale of a time.
 
Yes, micron filter for sure if you're going to inject, especially if you insist on IM.

I was given 2mg IM injections every four hours when I was in the hospital and it still felt nice, but I can't imagine that it would have any benefit over rectal or insufflation in terms of onset, and I doubt the BA is that much better either.

I would really not get into IV drug use-that's opening a door that is very hard, if not impossible to close. I don't mean to sound preachy, but really, think about it. If it deters you in anyway, from what I hear about IV hydromorphone is that it gives a killer rush, and practically no high (or just a very short one).

If you are going to inject intravenously, make sure you have a friend nearbye, as hydromorphone is a very potent drug, and it's definately possible to overdose on it. Also make sure you are sitting down when you do inject, as The rush from IV opiates (especially dilaudid) can be so intense that some users can fall down.

Please re-consider!
 
Yes, when you IV dilaudid, at first you get the best rush and high. But then after a couple of times, you don't get high, just the rush. And that is a surefire way to become addicted.

Find a way to do rectal, nice rush & high & analgesia.
 
tricomb said:
Yes, when you IV dilaudid, at first you get the best rush and high. But then after a couple of times, you don't get high, just the rush. And that is a surefire way to become addicted.

Find a way to do rectal, nice rush & high & analgesia.
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I'm already addicted... well reading your replies, I see plugging came back in most answers as the best and safest ROA. Last time I plugged 4-6 mg but they were dilaudid and with my lack of experience, I had to add so much water it was bothersome to plug and plug and plug again and again. Those capsules have more hydromorphone for less fillers than dillies... much probably really much more fun! My hemmoroids has been lasting for years.. no big deal but I have to put them back in my rectum every time I take a shit. Imma see a doctor for that because it is annoying. If I manage to plug in one soft shot... hemmoroids shall not be a present.

As for IM/ IV, I just wanna try, that's all... as I said I have a seringues fear... I can't stand blood and have a general malaise about my own biological, physical body, so I just wanna be safe and try once to experience thst rush. IM got me high but it isn't better than crushing, lining up and railing that powder!
 
You don't need to use much water when you plug! You can dissolve it all in 1mL. You would only need to plug that once. You can dissolve a SHITLOAD of hydromorphone in 1mL, like upwards of 300mg/mL IIRC. Although I'm not suggesting you use that much, hypothetically it's possible.
 
DemonSeed said:
"I'm already addicted... "



"I just wanna be safe and try once to experience thst rush"
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I am sorry man but there is no such thing as 'just once' when you are talking IV drugs. Just once will show you what it feels like.. then it's down hill from there. I know, I know, willpower, blah blah, it wont happen to me, blah blah yadda yadda I hate needles blah blah. Truth is so many of us have been in your position rationalizing experimenting with IV, and I doubt even oen of us has come out of it victorious.

Once you know what IV feels like it will be nearly impossible to consume your drugs knowing they could be getting you much higher. I am sorry if my post is insulting but it is the truth.. you have gone as far as IMing, posting on the internet about IVing, I doubt you will have the same determination to refrain from shooting after your 'just once' experience.

Also IMing should have been better than sniffing. Simple sticking a needle in your bodfy and pushing the plunger is not IM. You have to reach a muscle to inject into. And if done properly IMing is like IVing but without the rush.. instead it takes a few minutes. You are still getting 100% ba I beleive.
 
I personally wouldn't recommend IV'ing or IM'ing any pill, especially one that is extended-release form. Using drugs parenterally is alway risky. There are other ROA's. I have read that unlike morphine or heroin, rectal hydromorphone does not have a high BA (in fact, I believe it is lower than intranasal BA). So I recommend that you thoroughly crush the beads into a fine powder and snort it (BA is roughly 50% ). The beads can be extremely difficult to break and crush into a fine powder, so you have to know what you are doing also.
 
You should immediately stop IMing..you will get an abscess because without micron filtering you are injecting some stuff that is not water soluable and will stay in your arm..

IMO you should not attempt to learn to IV with these. I am not saying you should or shouldnt be injecting drugs.. that's up to you, but learning to IV with pills is a guaranteed abscess. You will fuck up atleast once.. it can be very tricky at first..so the chances of a miss or slipping out during shooting are high for a beginner.
Personally, when I started to IV I had a bit of a learning curve. I didn't haev anyone to teach me..and I nkow for sure if I was attempting to IV a pill, or tar, I would have gotten an abcess or three.. I definitely missed a few times being stupid and comulsive. The heroin around here is white powdered dope that mixes up super clean like iced tea, I cotton filter but there is no res or even coloring on the cotton after filtering. That's how most of the dope around here is.. if you have some garbage with some crazy cut the chances of a missed shot going foul is higher. Pills is the biggest risk.After a while injecting becomes very easy and you will never miss.

The dope around here is so now someoen who has been IMing for over a year and they don't micron, just a cotton filter and they have not gotten an abscess yet.. personally, I would not fuck with that.

I'd watch the injection site where you IM'd for SURE if you did not micron filter. Did you cotton filter? It might be a stupid question but I have seen people come on here and talk about just mixing their dope/pill/whatever up, sometimes even heating it, then just sucking it up in the pin and shooting not even a cotton filter.
 
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