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The purpose of fractal-recognition?

"You are able to decode this universal information carried from outer space, which may be as old as nothingness itself. When you enter this primordial state or force you are reunited with the true self and divinity within. You literally ‘conduct’ the universal energy. You may see into the past and future, understand the true meaning of existence and begin to understand the order of things. You return to the womb, the cocoon of our material structure and nature’s original Dark Room."

^obviously this sounds pretty bat shit crazy to the average individual but I'm beginning to think that most people who have had what they could call a ++++ or a DMT breakthrough might agree that they've experienced something at least a little similar to this.

I definitely experienced 'seeing the past and future.' I was hearing my favorite chord progression in my head, and every time it resounded back to the beginning chord I experienced EXPLOSIVE amounts of pleasure. I felt as if I was seeing everything I cared about in my entire life get synthesized down into one special little infinitely changing symbol that was actually encompassing my entire vision and when I tried to open or close my eyes nothing happened all I could experience was this state of "infinity." Come to think of it at times the symbol did look a little bit like an infinity symbol. The experience ended with me seeing the look on my mother's face as I emerged from the womb.

After this 'spiritual rebirth' I cried tears of joy for almost a half hour then got up and rode a wave on a boogieboard.

I have not a single shred of doubt about the fact that that experience changed me and my life for the better.
 
Yeah what seems bat crazy to most seems completely logical to us. After an experience like that boundaries just seem to dissolve. There's no such thing as normal anymore
 
Yeah what seems bat crazy to most seems completely logical to us. After an experience like that boundaries just seem to dissolve. There's no such thing as normal anymore. Maybe we're more open to far out ideas because we'be made a semi irreversible connection with these energy fields. After experiencing them there's no going back. It becomes part of who we are. It's like we opened some behind the scenes doors and they never quite closed. They're just swingin in the breeze
 
^ I typically just tell people i've seen the light. yes, the one you supposedly see before death. In a way it's like we "know too much" now. How are you supposed to relate something that's supposed to happen in the 'afterlife' to your life??? Much less try and get other people who haven't experienced it to relate. It's very difficult and can be confusing. take the guy who started the 'scary and confusing DMT trip' for example.

That's why set and setting are so important so that it happens at the perfect moment and you feel amazing about it afterwards.
 
For a more boring hypothesis, recognizing fractals (like a fern) may be an evolutionary mechanic to help us recognize health and stability. For example, a healthy fern grows outwards in a clean and concise fractal pattern. But what if it had a nutrient deficiency or a fungus? The leaves would begin to wilt, discolor, and start to lose the geometric pattern our brains are wired to notice and appreciate.

The same can be said about a wide variety of plants, animals, and perhaps even humans.

Taking psychedelics would then merely be amplifying our brain's natural ability to recognize geometry. Perhaps this ability is one of our core senses and synesthesia would explain seeing random fractals and CEVs!
 
SONN said:
^ I typically just tell people i've seen the light. yes, the one you supposedly see before death. In a way it's like we "know too much" now. How are you supposed to relate something that's supposed to happen in the 'afterlife' to your life??? Much less try and get other people who haven't experienced it to relate. It's very difficult and can be confusing. take the guy who started the 'scary and confusing DMT trip' for example.

That's why set and setting are so important so that it happens at the perfect moment and you feel amazing about it afterwards.
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Yeah I still feel amazing about my breakthrough. And you're completely right, it is like knowing too much, but I don't regret it one bit. That's what I live for, exploring the unknown. All of the physical world has been discovered. Theres no new lands left to discover, no true adventures, so I journey inwards.
 
ModernDayHippie said:
All of the physical world has been discovered. Theres no new lands left to discover, no true adventures, so I journey inwards.
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The next step in the physical world is sustainable life outside of our local vicinity (Earth). Whether long-term or for holiday periods, we have the rest of the universe to discover.

There is also that we haven't fully explored our oceans, due to our inability to dive to certain depths. In fact, it's said that we've explored more of space than we have of our oceans.

Much exploring we have yet to do, young one.
 
the fractals could be formed by clusters of cosmic particles and star constellations that are sending a constant rate of electromagnetic radiation towards earth at a variety of different wavelengths and such and these wavelengths are bouncing off of each other in space and that forms geometric pockets that interfere with light(which is also a form of electromagnetic radiation) and using psychedelic drugs makes our nervous systems and subconscious minds more aware of these and we see them as pretty fractals or otherwise just "waviness" or "melting". The fact that the fractals are also usually constantly moving or drifting towards or away from us could also have to do with the constant rotation of the earth.

^irrational?
 
Jinux said:
The next step in the physical world is sustainable life outside of our local vicinity (Earth). Whether long-term or for holiday periods, we have the rest of the universe to discover.

There is also that we haven't fully explored our oceans, due to our inability to dive to certain depths. In fact, it's said that we've explored more of space than we have of our oceans.

Much exploring we have yet to do, young one.
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Well I knew about space, but I don't think i'll be taking any adventures into space anytime soon. We just don't have that kind of technology in this day and age. Interesting point about the ocean, thanks for letting me know. I'll have to look into that...
 
ModernDayHippie said:
Well I knew about space, but I don't think i'll be taking any adventures into space anytime soon. We just don't have that kind of technology in this day and age. Interesting point about the ocean, thanks for letting me know. I'll have to look into that...
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We certainly have the technology, we just have a shitty system that means only really super super rich people get to use said technology.

Back on-topic guys, I believe seeing fractals isn't just a psychedelic thing, we can see them all around us (like the fern picture earlier). Psychs just allow us the headspace to appreciate the nature of the universe like that instead of our daily lives.

As to *why* we see them, or why they exist, I think all of life is a fractal (I mean just think about how reproduction works). How could we not notice it?
 
Regarding humans constructing fractals sans-computer: Ron Eglash TED Talk on African Fractals

And here's an interesting piece on some of the math & physiology involved in geometric hallucinations: Uncoiling the Spiral

Ultimately i feel fractals, in both nature and hallucinations, if one even wants to consider the two as separate, have to do with the manner in which living things are organized, be it the pattern a fern leaf grows in or in the mind-burning complexity of the way our visual systems are wired.
 
I suppose this concept can be related to speed reading. I am an excellent reader but due to the sheer volume and repetitious nature of my studies I have begin to do what I like to call extreme speed reading.

Basically just looking a groups of words not processing them per se but just viewing the letters and going through the entire page probably within about 5-7 seconds. At first its scary because you feel as though your not taking in the information but as you continue to practice you recognize more and more words and you begin to understand the over all nature of the passage.

Yesterday I was doing some research and came upon a site in french that I was unable to translate using google. Now I speak spanish relatively fluently and studied latin as well as french but never master either.

I attempted to speed read through french mostly to get comfortable with the language but found that through the combinations of letters and word arrangements i was able to recognize similarities across the languages and words i was familiar with and get the gist of the information.

This probably is directly related to geometric fractals as in that they are what could be considered the letters of an image or a building block of visual interpretation. I'm sure optomologists might have a lot to say about this theory though...

Just my 2c
 
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