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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 4)

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I'm curious if 6apb would be active for me, after years, excessive dosing, etc I'd found even fairly pure mda to have little to no effect. Mdma on the other hand to be active at typical quantities. Curious if someone else might have had a similar mda reaction and has tried 6apb.

Would like to know experience related to this.
 
I might look for a sample of this stuff. Used my gram of MXE which left me unsatisfied so now I'm on the hunt for something new.
The thought of a crash being even remotely similar to MDMA is what has been pretty much scaring me from this drug. But I guess 1 night couldn't hurt. I sure miss that Euphoric feeling. I haven't had that in years. Humm...
 
kah8 said:
What dosage of 6-apb could be safe for a combo with 200mg MDAI?
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I'm not sure, but it would definitely be something quite low. Just curious, what makes you want to do this combo? 6-APB releases boatloads of serotonin as it is. If you want to combine something else with it, a more dopamine oriented stim makes more sense.
 
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I'm not sure, but it would definitely be something quite low. Just curious, what makes you want to do this combo? 6-APB releases boatloads of serotonin as it is. If you want to combine something else with it, a more dopamine oriented stim makes more sense.
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Doses of 90mg-120mg of 6-apb don't releases too much serotonin for me, and if i increase the dose of 6-apb the experience becomes too trippy for me, I was thinkin' in 80mg-90mg of 6-apb + 200mg MDAI..
 
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kah8 said:
Doses of 90mg-120mg of 6-apb don't releases too much serotonin for me, and if i increase the dose of 6-apb the experience becomes to trippy for me, I was thinkin' in 80mg-90mg of 6-apb + 200mg MDAI..
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That would probably be fine. However, you might want to take 100mg of MDAI to start and use more if necessary. It would also help the duration of the MDAI match the duration of the 6-APB.
 
Hey guys. I don't know if I am at the right place to ask this question: I've moved to greece and I need some legal info about 6-apb and research chemicals legality in general. Can you link me some page that lists the controlled substances in this country? I work at a multinational company and I am afraid to get involved in some drug related case, but even after 5 months I miss parties with benzo and methylone sometimes. Thanks for your help in advance.
 
Alistar117 said:
Hey guys. I don't know if I am at the right place to ask this question: I've moved to greece and I need some legal info about 6-apb and research chemicals legality in general. Can you link me some page that lists the controlled substances in this country? I work at a multinational company and I am afraid to get involved in some drug related case, but even after 5 months I miss parties with benzo and methylone sometimes. Thanks for your help in advance.
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Is this the sort of thing you're after?
http://emcdda.no-ip.info/eldd?c=Greece
http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/country-overviews/el
http://www.idpc.net/alerts/greece-drug-law-reform

interesting snipets from the third link:
On 2nd August 2011 the Greek Minister of Justice presented the changes proposed by the legislative committee to reform national drug laws to the Committee on Social Affairs of the Greek Parliament.
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The basic reforms of the law include the decriminalisation of drug use.
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The government’s proposal has been subject to public consultation from 9-25 September 2011. Several organisations and individuals have commented on the draft proposal. The government will soon provide the final version of the proposed law which will then be submitted to Parliament. The “Association Diogenis, drug policy dialogue in South East Europe” commented on the new law and pointed out that the government’s proposal is a positive begin of law reforms of the Greek drug legislation.
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As for 6-APB, from what I can tell it is currently legal, although I'd wait for a response from some who actually knows something about greece other than that it has a pretty alphabet.
 
sinkcolinsink said:
150mg was borderline too intense. FYI, these were all the '777' marked white pills that are known to have 50mg of 6-APB per pill. My friend and I each took three. My friend was nauseous and threw up for about 1.5 hours, but he ate a large meal minutes before ingesting. I had an empty stomach, and while I felt nauseous at some points it was never enough to make me purge. Overall, I could not tell difference apart from pure crystal MDMA that I have had before. I'd say the 6-APB has less empathy overall, but the duration is much more desirable.
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haha, I got the same shit you have. I've only taken one of them so far. I can relate to the nausea, I had urges to vomit on the comeup, but never vomited. I experienced literally no increase in empathy at all, but I could certainly tell a difference between this and the real molly or mdma pills ive had in the past, it could just be set and setting though, or my really low doseage. There were brief periods of time when I would get an increase in hearing, then an increase in smell (always happens when I roll) but none of them lasted very long. My skin/tactile sense never developed though, usually happens when I roll. Ability to talk increased, but not an urge to talk. Music was the best part, every time there was an awesome drop/change in the music, I would smile and get a really nice rush, but it was quite a brief rush (less than 10 sec), making me think that at low doses, you've really got to be in the right setting to get anything out of it. MDMA makes me feel continuously good in my body throughout the experience.

EDATA: has never had a submission of 6-APB. Seriously, I just looked it up. Who will be the first to send them one?
 
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Higher doses of 6-APB can get quite intense but I really enjoyed my two experiences in the 150 - 200 range. Probably going to start with 200 next time and edge toward the big 300. Certainly wouldn't advise going that high if you've not tried this stuff before. My first experience was with just less than 100 and that was very lovely too.
 
Anyone experience any notable long term side effects with this? Is it comparable to MDMA or MDA in this regard... I've rolled quite a few times with no ill effects long or short besides missing a night of sleep (the usual). I'm a bit wary, but from the reports it seems like it's just one night of fun, then life resumes as normal.
 
XTC4Life said:
Anyone experience any notable long term side effects with this? Is it comparable to MDMA or MDA in this regard... I've rolled quite a few times with no ill effects long or short besides missing a night of sleep (the usual). I'm a bit wary, but from the reports it seems like it's just one night of fun, then life resumes as normal.
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Being an MDA analogue it should be treated like MDxx and you should stick to the one roll a month minimum rule if you want to avoid any lasting damage. It could be far less neurotoxic than MDMA/MDA, or it could be far more neurotoxic, at this stage we really don't know, but the best thing you can do is space your rolls out and avoid redosing/excessive doses :)
 
Just wanted to post a little update on my state after my 6-APB binge a few months prior. Around the end of Dec I had around 1.5 grams of legit tan 6-APB powder. You can see some of my reactions to it earlier in this thread. Amazing. A bit too amazing heh.

Age: 20 Weight: 165 Height: 6' 2" , Avid health nut, take very good care of my body in regards to vitamins and food and exercise.

At first I took it with 3 weeks in between. Then it started going down to 2 and then 1 week apart then just 4 days apart. The third time I took it I took 200mg with a sublingual RoA. This one experience with it was the strongest. I was in a way convulsing with so much pleasure I could not move. After I started to climb I lost myself and the next thing I knew I woke up in the middle of my house in the pitch dark naked not knowing where I was, almost as if the drug took over my body for its own use. Very scary.

I kept taking around 100mg to 150mgs weekly. The comedowns were horrible but nothing like the last 2 weeks I took it. The last time I took 6-APB, which was the last of my stash, felt like I had hit psychosis. It had only been 5 days since I last rolled and it's funny because it seems that any strong emotion tied things you do on this drug seem to stay with you after you use it a few times. For example: Whenever I am aroused now I want to take 6-APB, or when I want to hear music I start to think about taking 6-APB. It's almost as if those passageways in my brain crossed paths with the hunger for the drug.

So that last time I took it I had only 5 days since the last roll. I dropped around 11 in the morning and came down around 6. By 7:30 I felt like my mind was being ripped apart. I felt utterly hopeless and all I could do was moan UGHHHH AHHHHH UGHHH over and over. Feeling what I felt that day makes me very sympathetic to one who has lost their mind. I then proceeded to go into my kitchen and grab 2 dark beers and it was the only thing that helped me relax with some soft music I was able to fall asleep.

So in conclusion please be careful with this stuff. It is so easy to abuse especially if you have a lot just sitting there waiting to be used. And it seems tolerance does not pick up very quick so it can be used with good strength over and over. My physical and mental health are perfectly fine as far as I can tell. I'm back to me, haven't had any 6-APB in a long while and I feel good. I'm sure maybe down the road in my life I could have possibly done damage to my brain with the neurotoxcicity from the drug but alas I can deal with that when I get there.

Stay safe out there ;)

Oh and forgot to mention bumping is NOT recommended (by me :/) all it does is just add to the length of the residual stimulation after the roll is over which is the worst part imo.
 
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This completely, I cannot comprehend how any more euphoria can be experienced in a individual. My friend took 300mg at once. You do NOT want to do that. I think 200mg at once on an empty stomach will be the farthest I would be willing to push this substance. :/
 
Being a natural hard head, i needed about 120 mg to start and about 150 mg the second time to get good effects. I've done it 5 times total now in the last 9 months or so, but the last 2 times i've done it i did around 350 mg and 500 mg, respectively (redosing ofcourse, spread out over about 10 hours).

Not sure if my tolerance just built up but i really don't want to do those kinds of large amounts anymore, even though i really didn't have a hangover or trip too hard or anything like that. Does anyone know how long it takes to drop my tolerance back down to a normal level? I know that right now i would probably need around 200 or 250 to get good effects
 
Give it at least 3 months before your next experience, and take care of yourself, eat healthy etc :) I'm sure your tolerance will be normal by then.
 
Sounds very interesting.

Have always had a close affinity to mda for its combination of hallucinatory and empathogenic qualities. This seems to even taking it further with more euphoria although the trip report I read didn't mention any conclusive hallucinations so maybe this one is closer to mdma in effects.

Either way definitely going to be getting my hands on some of this stuff asap.
 
It's not very psychedelic really, but there is an element of that. Objects seem wavy around the edges and to be constantly shifting a little, and closed eye visuals consist of strange pixelated cartoon scenes.

Having now finally tried MDMA, I can compare the pro's of each and say:

MDMA:
- A bit more euphoria & empathy
- Less side effects
- Easier comedown/hangover

6-APB:
- Light OEVs and CEVs
- Long duration
- More stimulating (if that's desirable)

Unfortunately I haven't tried MDA so I can't compare really. But yeah, 6-APB can be as euphoric as MDMA, with a longer duration and some visuals and stimulation to top it off, but to reach the same level of euphoria you trade off for a greatly increased heart rate, worse jaw grinding etc, and a worse comedown/hangover.

Both great substances imo :)
 
6apb is definitely very lovely indeed. It's become one of the legals some my friends will only do now (after the whole mkat thing which we did of course although we preferred methylone). They are not researchers as such and I am kind of the fiend of the group lol. They're like 'when are we gonna have another Benzo night!' I try and explain that's a stupid name, and they don't know anything about actual benzodiazepines which that name should really be reserved for.

Anywhow, 6apb has lead to the some of the best high times of my life, it seems to bring people together with the music in an amazing way. One night we all laid on a bed in a kind of organic mesh it was ridiculous, so much love and empathy. Then we burnt through a shitload of nos good god some of the things I experienced I'll never forget!

I'm also trying to make them realise that the powder is better than the pellets, I think our next experiment may change their minds ;)
 
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