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TR 2C-P #1
Title: Sedating, calm and introspective
Substance: 2C-P
Dosage: 8 mg 2C-P HCl dissolved in ethanol/warm water.
Personal data Male, 85kg, 178 cm, 27 years old , athletic, exercise daily, but some back pains and undiagnosed ADHD and cyclothymic (slightly bipolar)
Medications and addictions: none except vitamins.
Set & Setting: At a picnic near the lake, cold, muddy and cloudy, not well known buddies and doubts to trip or not
Rating: 8/10
Previous experiences:
* 2C-C (x2)
* 2C-D (x1)
* 4-ACO-DMT (x1)
* 4-AcO-MiPT (x1)
* 4-HO-MET (x3)
* 5-APB (x1)
* Alprazolam (x2)
* Amphetamine (x1)
* DOC (x3)
* DOI (x1)
* Dichloropane (x2)
* Etizolam (x3)
* Kratom (x4)
* LSD (x2)
* Methoxetamine (x6)
* Methylone (x3)
* Modafinil (1 week)
* Shrooms (x3)
* Salvia (x1)
* Weed and hash (many times)
Substance appearance: white, very sticky powder
Closest previous trip: one 80 ug LSD blotter 1 week before
Tolerance: None
Sensitivity: Low
Addiction potential: Low
Main effects: Improved mood and reflection ability, very slight visual distortions, better hearing, smelling and music appreciation, light sedation and calmness
Side effects: Cold sensitivity increased, slight headache in later stages.
After effects: afterglow with great mood and calmness
Shulgin scale: **
T -02:30
In the morning, I ate an apple, took multivitamins, ALCAR, ALA and Vitamin C to reduce damage from free radicals produced by phenethylamines. I had some doubts about taking something, because two previous times were not satisfying and I thought maybe I need to make a pause in my psychedelic usage. Also, setting planned was less than ideal: picnic near the lake with some people I like, some people I don’t care about and some new people. I was short of sleep this night, but slept well, thanks to 4mg melatonin.
I drank a lot of extremely strong ginger tea in the morning to combat possible nausea. Although I never experienced nausea on any psychedelic except mushrooms, it is better to be safe than sorry in case with long-lasting 2Cs.
T -01:30
Went to Yoga class, was not feeling very well, had some back pain, but Yoga always makes my mood better and calmer.
T 0:00
Met with my friend Panda, he said “let’s stick to plan” and we do. I take 8mg of 2C-P, he takes 6 mg. Please note: this 2C-P some time ago was analyzed by my friend using MS analysis to be legit, but purity was unknown, because no HPLC was done. According to effects (see below), I think it was not totally pure. Also, I weighted a package and it came out 65 mg instead of 100, but I saw A LOT of powder stick to bag, so it was probably honest 100 mg or similar in a bag overall.
T +2:00
I notice some changes in perception, very slight. No anxiety, just some speediness and inability to focus. We met with Coyote, who drove us to picnic site. He was ill and with family, so he was not participating in our psychedelic trip.
While we were moving to the picnic site, I had some nice chat with him and his wife, being very metaphorical and funny, as I usually am. Coyote's wife was sometimes slow to catch my jokes and quick chat that reminded me how I act on DOC or DOI or large dose of tryptamines.
We stopped to watch breaking and moving ice on the local river, it was very nice, as was looking at the sunny clouded sky.
Also, Coyote and wife were eating some buns with meat filling, and while it was tempting to try them, because my smell ability already increased, but I reminded myself of possible nausea and waited till T +3 for that.
T +3:00
We got to the picnic site, lake in the woods of natural reserve. We enjoyed some aromatic teas with ginger and rosehip and further chat. Action of 2C-P become stronger at this moment: darker and lighter areas in my field of view became more contrast, outlines of objects more prominent, hands had more “thin”, feeling I have on many psychs. Colors become more enjoyable: not very much stronger, but looking at something colorful brought me feelings of happiness.
I thought to myself: if this is peak, then it is pretty weak, and I am a bit disappointed. During later stages, experience was not stronger, so this was peak indeed.
T +4:00
Coyote went back home, but other people came with beer and food. They were not aware we was taking substances, and we was able to act almost normally.
My back pain vanished at this point (I felt positive stimulating body buzz from all 2C s I tried), returning only after a few hours. But I also felt slight headache in left part of the head since then.
I enjoyed conversation with my friend and his wife: she told me how they met and how different they are, their relationship have many similar traits to mine with my GF. I was able to reflect on this and it was nice and useful. I was feeling almost sedated and in dreamy mood, yet with increased awareness and appreciation of discussion and nature. Unfortunately, some other people were drinking beer and were not in my state of moody and slow conversation, they acted more aggressively, and that was troubling me. Luckily, not much. When I decided I don't want to listen to stories about crazy violent drunks, I went to a short walk, looking at the lake covered with ice, and thinking that I should appreciate my life and girlfriend more, because we very rarely have quarrels and such, despite being very different.
T +8:00
Effects gradually worn off, but still were obviously present. I used special powder to make campfire colored, I did this first time, and everybody was like “WOW!” It looked amazing, and I recommend this stuff to everyone, it looks nice even for people haven't used mind altering substances (well, maybe a bit of alcohol).
T +8:40
I went back to the town. While waiting on the bus stop called my GF and had some nice chat, mood being great. Bus almost missed me, and then it took for the old driver a long time to win over his ticket machine and give me the ticket, but it was a fun thing to watch. I decided to turn some music on, but out of curiosity switched to FM radio instead, haven't heard it literally for years. There was some hilarious talk about how Frodo from LoTR had real prototype in Nordic viking that conquered some cities using his smarts, and hobbits and dragons could have existed for real. I usually don't like such non-scientific talk, but this was obviously not very serious myth-creation in action with some humorous side to it. So, I listened not without pleasure, while looking at the marvelous and stunning-looking city lights from the bus window and smelling inspiring fragrance of the girl next to me. This was nice until bad smelling old fart did not come to the bus ;-(
T +9:40
I got to the town center and headed to the swimming pool, listening to music. It sounded magnificent, spacey and detailed, without any artificial and unnatural feeling to it, like I slightly experienced on 5-Meo-MiPT or 4-HO-MET. In this aspect, it was similar to my 2C-C on a music festival experience, but here I was more able to focus, because my mind was very clear at this time.
I got to the swimming pool. It was nice, but nothing special. I felt a little tired and was barely able to swim my usual big distance. Sauna felt nice, not a sign of overheating/body load etc.
T +11:40
Got home, had a dinner, food tasted very nice (but bear in mind I spent whole day in the fresh air).
T +13:10
I took 3mg melatonin pill, slept well. Next day felt calm and overall pretty happy, no hangover or down mood of any kind, maybe a little anxiety in the evening, but occasional anxiety is normal for me. Subsequent days were no worse or better than usual.
Summary
T rip was surprisingly side-effect free and mild, no anxiety, and no nausea. Next time I will dose 10mg to check if this substance has something more to offer, and expect this with eagerness. Overall, I like 2Cs more and more, and they may very well become my fav chemicals. Methylone with its short euphoria comedown is much worse, DOx are too stimulating and “body-loady”. The only things I appreciate to the same extent are tryptamines 4-HO-MET and 4-AcO-MiPT, but I would not risk taking tryptamines in public setting yet.
Despite not ideal set and setting, trip was calm, sedating, introspective and slightly insightful. No revelations and no CEVs or OEVs, but enjoyable. I am usually not calm and relaxed person, so I like when I am able to stop worrying and planning for a moment, and just enjoy the moment quietly. My two previous trips (with LSD and MXE) were not enjoyable, so this one got me back on track. I am happy I used 8mg my first time: it was not too harsh, but yet above threshold, and despite lack of visuals and headfuck, gave me a satisfying experience.
Title: Sedating, calm and introspective
Substance: 2C-P
Dosage: 8 mg 2C-P HCl dissolved in ethanol/warm water.
Personal data Male, 85kg, 178 cm, 27 years old , athletic, exercise daily, but some back pains and undiagnosed ADHD and cyclothymic (slightly bipolar)
Medications and addictions: none except vitamins.
Set & Setting: At a picnic near the lake, cold, muddy and cloudy, not well known buddies and doubts to trip or not
Rating: 8/10
Previous experiences:
* 2C-C (x2)
* 2C-D (x1)
* 4-ACO-DMT (x1)
* 4-AcO-MiPT (x1)
* 4-HO-MET (x3)
* 5-APB (x1)
* Alprazolam (x2)
* Amphetamine (x1)
* DOC (x3)
* DOI (x1)
* Dichloropane (x2)
* Etizolam (x3)
* Kratom (x4)
* LSD (x2)
* Methoxetamine (x6)
* Methylone (x3)
* Modafinil (1 week)
* Shrooms (x3)
* Salvia (x1)
* Weed and hash (many times)
Substance appearance: white, very sticky powder
Closest previous trip: one 80 ug LSD blotter 1 week before
Tolerance: None
Sensitivity: Low
Addiction potential: Low
Main effects: Improved mood and reflection ability, very slight visual distortions, better hearing, smelling and music appreciation, light sedation and calmness
Side effects: Cold sensitivity increased, slight headache in later stages.
After effects: afterglow with great mood and calmness
Shulgin scale: **
T -02:30
In the morning, I ate an apple, took multivitamins, ALCAR, ALA and Vitamin C to reduce damage from free radicals produced by phenethylamines. I had some doubts about taking something, because two previous times were not satisfying and I thought maybe I need to make a pause in my psychedelic usage. Also, setting planned was less than ideal: picnic near the lake with some people I like, some people I don’t care about and some new people. I was short of sleep this night, but slept well, thanks to 4mg melatonin.
I drank a lot of extremely strong ginger tea in the morning to combat possible nausea. Although I never experienced nausea on any psychedelic except mushrooms, it is better to be safe than sorry in case with long-lasting 2Cs.
T -01:30
Went to Yoga class, was not feeling very well, had some back pain, but Yoga always makes my mood better and calmer.
T 0:00
Met with my friend Panda, he said “let’s stick to plan” and we do. I take 8mg of 2C-P, he takes 6 mg. Please note: this 2C-P some time ago was analyzed by my friend using MS analysis to be legit, but purity was unknown, because no HPLC was done. According to effects (see below), I think it was not totally pure. Also, I weighted a package and it came out 65 mg instead of 100, but I saw A LOT of powder stick to bag, so it was probably honest 100 mg or similar in a bag overall.
T +2:00
I notice some changes in perception, very slight. No anxiety, just some speediness and inability to focus. We met with Coyote, who drove us to picnic site. He was ill and with family, so he was not participating in our psychedelic trip.
While we were moving to the picnic site, I had some nice chat with him and his wife, being very metaphorical and funny, as I usually am. Coyote's wife was sometimes slow to catch my jokes and quick chat that reminded me how I act on DOC or DOI or large dose of tryptamines.
We stopped to watch breaking and moving ice on the local river, it was very nice, as was looking at the sunny clouded sky.
Also, Coyote and wife were eating some buns with meat filling, and while it was tempting to try them, because my smell ability already increased, but I reminded myself of possible nausea and waited till T +3 for that.
T +3:00
We got to the picnic site, lake in the woods of natural reserve. We enjoyed some aromatic teas with ginger and rosehip and further chat. Action of 2C-P become stronger at this moment: darker and lighter areas in my field of view became more contrast, outlines of objects more prominent, hands had more “thin”, feeling I have on many psychs. Colors become more enjoyable: not very much stronger, but looking at something colorful brought me feelings of happiness.
I thought to myself: if this is peak, then it is pretty weak, and I am a bit disappointed. During later stages, experience was not stronger, so this was peak indeed.
T +4:00
Coyote went back home, but other people came with beer and food. They were not aware we was taking substances, and we was able to act almost normally.
My back pain vanished at this point (I felt positive stimulating body buzz from all 2C s I tried), returning only after a few hours. But I also felt slight headache in left part of the head since then.
I enjoyed conversation with my friend and his wife: she told me how they met and how different they are, their relationship have many similar traits to mine with my GF. I was able to reflect on this and it was nice and useful. I was feeling almost sedated and in dreamy mood, yet with increased awareness and appreciation of discussion and nature. Unfortunately, some other people were drinking beer and were not in my state of moody and slow conversation, they acted more aggressively, and that was troubling me. Luckily, not much. When I decided I don't want to listen to stories about crazy violent drunks, I went to a short walk, looking at the lake covered with ice, and thinking that I should appreciate my life and girlfriend more, because we very rarely have quarrels and such, despite being very different.
T +8:00
Effects gradually worn off, but still were obviously present. I used special powder to make campfire colored, I did this first time, and everybody was like “WOW!” It looked amazing, and I recommend this stuff to everyone, it looks nice even for people haven't used mind altering substances (well, maybe a bit of alcohol).
T +8:40
I went back to the town. While waiting on the bus stop called my GF and had some nice chat, mood being great. Bus almost missed me, and then it took for the old driver a long time to win over his ticket machine and give me the ticket, but it was a fun thing to watch. I decided to turn some music on, but out of curiosity switched to FM radio instead, haven't heard it literally for years. There was some hilarious talk about how Frodo from LoTR had real prototype in Nordic viking that conquered some cities using his smarts, and hobbits and dragons could have existed for real. I usually don't like such non-scientific talk, but this was obviously not very serious myth-creation in action with some humorous side to it. So, I listened not without pleasure, while looking at the marvelous and stunning-looking city lights from the bus window and smelling inspiring fragrance of the girl next to me. This was nice until bad smelling old fart did not come to the bus ;-(
T +9:40
I got to the town center and headed to the swimming pool, listening to music. It sounded magnificent, spacey and detailed, without any artificial and unnatural feeling to it, like I slightly experienced on 5-Meo-MiPT or 4-HO-MET. In this aspect, it was similar to my 2C-C on a music festival experience, but here I was more able to focus, because my mind was very clear at this time.
I got to the swimming pool. It was nice, but nothing special. I felt a little tired and was barely able to swim my usual big distance. Sauna felt nice, not a sign of overheating/body load etc.
T +11:40
Got home, had a dinner, food tasted very nice (but bear in mind I spent whole day in the fresh air).
T +13:10
I took 3mg melatonin pill, slept well. Next day felt calm and overall pretty happy, no hangover or down mood of any kind, maybe a little anxiety in the evening, but occasional anxiety is normal for me. Subsequent days were no worse or better than usual.
Summary
T rip was surprisingly side-effect free and mild, no anxiety, and no nausea. Next time I will dose 10mg to check if this substance has something more to offer, and expect this with eagerness. Overall, I like 2Cs more and more, and they may very well become my fav chemicals. Methylone with its short euphoria comedown is much worse, DOx are too stimulating and “body-loady”. The only things I appreciate to the same extent are tryptamines 4-HO-MET and 4-AcO-MiPT, but I would not risk taking tryptamines in public setting yet.
Despite not ideal set and setting, trip was calm, sedating, introspective and slightly insightful. No revelations and no CEVs or OEVs, but enjoyable. I am usually not calm and relaxed person, so I like when I am able to stop worrying and planning for a moment, and just enjoy the moment quietly. My two previous trips (with LSD and MXE) were not enjoyable, so this one got me back on track. I am happy I used 8mg my first time: it was not too harsh, but yet above threshold, and despite lack of visuals and headfuck, gave me a satisfying experience.
