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What was in the ecstasy pills of era 1992-95????

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mark881

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After a long break, I've returned to clubbing and Es.

I am UK based, and during 1994 we had Dove pills which were nothing short of amazing. I typically took 1/2 a pill and was dancing all night, my jeans were soaked thru with sweat, I was up/down/up/down all night...the 'down' felt like a lovely wasted warm feeling.

So after a loooong break (because Doves were so good, I found myself utterly zonked all weekend and physically done in till Thursday), I returned to the club scene.

Took a Pink Diamond recently, and it was good up, just like Doves, but this feeling up/down groovey ya lasted about an hour and the pill was over in 90mins. I felt more like cruisin' and easy going dancing rather than off my head like Doves. Recently took a Pink Diamond again which was fine again for 60-90minutes then smashed 1/2 a Rockstar, which made me feel a bit wasted, glazed vision but not really happy happy. And also not very awake.

So I am wondering what has changed so much with the pills? The people I go clubbing with are like 'these are good pills, great amazing' and I'm like 'hmmmm...nice enough but like a low alcohol beer'.

On a 2nd note, I never used to have a problem on 'Doves/early 90s' pills going to sleep, but it's quite difficult with these new ones...any recommended stuff to take other than valium?
 
The pills you mentioned are not that strong anyway, there are some really strong ones about if you look around like speakers,snowflakes etc
 
nothing has changed.

MDMA is MDMA. ive looked through some lab analyses of pills from the mid 90's and they all seemed to be mainly 100 - 120mg mdma

any good pill these day has at least that. id say its not really the pills that have changed, its just that no mdma experience will ever be like the first few ones you had.

http://ecstasy.org/testing/index.html
 
if you stop having lucky with pills, get a testing reagent and go on a hunt for some mandy (crystal mdma), only get it in rocks don't accept any powders they'll be cut to shit.

here in the south (near london) it's piss easy to get nice rocks of md, dunno where abouts in the UK you're from though.
 
MarkoPolo said:
nothing has changed.

MDMA is MDMA. ive looked through some lab analyses of pills from the mid 90's and they all seemed to be mainly 100 - 120mg mdma

any good pill these day has at least that. id say its not really the pills that have changed, its just that no mdma experience will ever be like the first few ones you had.

http://ecstasy.org/testing/index.html
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quality of pills these days is MUCH worse, as in the amount of pills which actually contain MDMA proportional to those that do not
 
The quantity of quality pills have diminished greatly
Sure you can still find some here and there, especially if you know the right people

But more than less these days pills have more adulterants in them, like for example meth, amps, rc's, and a whole lot more, and sometimes no mdma what so ever, this is prolly why you feel a bit wired and it's hard to sleep after you come down

This is why in the past 10 years though there has been such a major scene for pure mdma crystals but now I heard that's being fucked the same way
Fucking greedy people is what it all comes down to
 
MarkoPolo said:
nothing has changed.

MDMA is MDMA. ive looked through some lab analyses of pills from the mid 90's and they all seemed to be mainly 100 - 120mg mdma

any good pill these day has at least that. id say its not really the pills that have changed, its just that no mdma experience will ever be like the first few ones you had.

http://ecstasy.org/testing/index.html
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just had a quick look on that link and can see some doves cantained MDEA and MDMA, did you even look at the link yourself? lol

deffo the pills have changed.

but can only repeat what others have said in this thread, there are pills about that are just like 90's pills, this is coming from some1 who has been taking them since doves (not me, a friend)

speakers are the 1's you want.

any other lowgrade beans are just shitty imitation
 
kindbuds said:
Mandy is the street name for MDA not MDMA... so unless youre looking for something a bit more trippy than the old ecstasy you used to take, then ask for Molly (MDMA)
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Mandy is UK term for MDMA, we dont use the term molly.

all nicknames are stupid though, because they cause confusion like this ^

MDMA is MDMA MDA is MDA.
 
kindbuds said:
Mandy is the street name for MDA not MDMA... so unless youre looking for something a bit more trippy than the old ecstasy you used to take, then ask for Molly (MDMA)
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he's from the UK. in the uk, mandy means MDMA. molly is an american term.

all this slang gets confusing

Edit: also when me and my mates want to mention mdma without people knowing, we call it Nelson. short for Nelson MANDella
 
alasdairm said:
how do you know the 'speakers' that he would get would be the same as the 'speakers' you've had?

pill brands are meaningless and a nebulous comment like that is of very limited value.

alasdair
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there are no known fakes out yet with speakers.

so my comment still stands 100% helpful.

there are several b atches of speakers, varying in content all 170mg +

so...
 
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Chesh said:
he's from the UK. in the uk, mandy means MDMA. molly is an american term.

all this slang gets confusing

Edit: also when me and my mates want to mention mdma without people knowing, we call it Nelson. short for Nelson MANDella
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haha thats a cool 1.

not used this myself but heard some people calling MDMA ADAM :)
 
alasdairm said:
i asked a simple question. what's your answer?

how do you know the 'speakers' that he would get would be the same as the 'speakers' you've had?

alasdair
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didnt sound like a question, my bad.

well because there arent any fake speakers out to everyones knowledge.

we would see people complaining on pill reports.

they are the best pills on the planet, they have a very good reputation, i havnt seen 1 bad comment about them so far.
 
i haven't seen the taj mahal, does that mean it doesn't exist? :)

i'm being flippant to make a point. even if pills have a great reputation, you have absolutely no idea whether pills with the same logo are from the same batch and have the same ingredients. there's a certain amount of lag built into the system at the best of times so you can't say with any degree of certainty that if this guy gets 'speakers' that they'll be great just because the ones you got were great.

this is the kind of thing that bluelight is here to help educate people about. if you make assumptions about the contents of a pill based only on its physical appearance, you're asking for trouble. encouraging people to do this flies in the face of what harm-reduction is all about.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
i haven't seen the taj mahal, does that mean it doesn't exist? :)

i'm being flippant to make a point. even if pills have a great reputation, you have absolutely no idea whether pills with the same logo are from the same batch and have the same ingredients. there's a certain amount of lag built into the system at the best of times so you can't say with any degree of certainty that if this guy gets 'speakers' that they'll be great just because the ones you got were great.

this is the kind of thing that bluelight is here to help educate people about. if you make assumptions about the contents of a pill based only on its physical appearance, you're asking for trouble. encouraging people to do this flies in the face of what harm-reduction is all about.

alasdair
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dont get me wrong i understand completely and i agree with you.

but at the same time, speakers are good shizzle.

but yeah op listen to mr moderator, he speaks sense.

if your from UK tho chances are your gunna get a good pill.
 
If I were you, I would get some MDMA crystals instead of these damn pills.
 
Jonnybean said:
just had a quick look on that link and can see some doves cantained MDEA and MDMA, did you even look at the link yourself? lol

deffo the pills have changed.

but can only repeat what others have said in this thread, there are pills about that are just like 90's pills, this is coming from some1 who has been taking them since doves (not me, a friend)

speakers are the 1's you want.

any other lowgrade beans are just shitty imitation
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yeah i looked at the link and yes i saw the doves contaning mdma/ea. all between 100 and 150mg

ever go on saferparty.ch? most "ecstasy" pills of today contain just that. anything else isnt ecstasy its bunk.

the pills havent changed, just the proportion of shit pills to good pills that was my point!

anyhow NO single pill from back then contained spreads of 180 - 220mg like the speakers do today.
 
Jonnybean said:
just had a quick look on that link and can see some doves cantained MDEA and MDMA, did you even look at the link yourself? lol

deffo the pills have changed.

but can only repeat what others have said in this thread, there are pills about that are just like 90's pills, this is coming from some1 who has been taking them since doves (not me, a friend)

speakers are the 1's you want.

any other lowgrade beans are just shitty imitation
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Pills have not changed. Yes there are more imitations but there are good pills just like back then. Today there are many pills that contain MDMA, MDEA, and MDA. Pill haven't changed, there are just more designer drugs.

Your first few times on MDMA are the best. After years of using it you become accustomed to it and it losses some of it magic or you drop it to much and the magic is totally gone because you have such a huge tolerance.

A euphoria inducing dose of MDMA is a euphoria inducing dose of MDMA.
 
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