silentcowboy
Bluelighter
that is one of the most arrogant thing ive herd in a while "oh i dont have an addictive personality so your (great) advice doesnt mean anything."
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^ Yea, as others have said, it doesn't take an addictive personality to develop a habit. That's why it's called 'developing a habit.' Opiates are especially hard to stay away from when you become physically dependent on them. Knowing that you can go from feeling like shit to feeling awesome simply by taking some opiates, it's like some type of sick torture. Throw IV into the mix, and the person knows that they can go from feeling like complete shit to feeling amazing in 15 seconds, and that's where the appeal of the needle comes from. People with habits seem to like IVing a lot more than people that are randomly trying it, mostly because of what I just said in my previous sentence.
The Dope Man
Bluelighter
dont listen to these jokers.
the kid obviously wants to shoot dope. so telling him its addictive and he could OD is pointless as im sure its not news to him.
if your ganna do it read up on proper iving techniques. as long as your safe about it and use responsibly i don see the problem.
go to CVS/Wallgreens/Wallmart and ask for "a pack of 10, 1cc, 29 gauge, short tip, insulin syringes and go to town.
the people in this thread are right though. although shooting is no more physically addictive it sure and the hell blows snorting.smoking out of the water. and you probly wont ever go back to snorting.
im 17 years old and have ben shooting morph/dope twice a month for the past year and not once have i ever used more than that. it just take will power which most of people on this forum seem to lack imo.
what kind of dope do you get ? ill be glad to help teach you to prep it but you should do some research on your own first and think about if you rely wanna do it. its not as big of a deal as everyone says but its pretty fuckin cool.
the kid obviously wants to shoot dope. so telling him its addictive and he could OD is pointless as im sure its not news to him.
if your ganna do it read up on proper iving techniques. as long as your safe about it and use responsibly i don see the problem.
go to CVS/Wallgreens/Wallmart and ask for "a pack of 10, 1cc, 29 gauge, short tip, insulin syringes and go to town.
the people in this thread are right though. although shooting is no more physically addictive it sure and the hell blows snorting.smoking out of the water. and you probly wont ever go back to snorting.
im 17 years old and have ben shooting morph/dope twice a month for the past year and not once have i ever used more than that. it just take will power which most of people on this forum seem to lack imo.
what kind of dope do you get ? ill be glad to help teach you to prep it but you should do some research on your own first and think about if you rely wanna do it. its not as big of a deal as everyone says but its pretty fuckin cool.
How old do you think the average BLer is? I believe the polls we took said 23/24. Most everybody that was acutally using that young was keeping it to monthly use at the age of 17. It's keeping that up by the time that you are 24 that is the difficult part. No offense, but it's like a high schooler that drinks once a month at a party saying that all alcoholics lack will power, but you are in high school so that is how you think. For the record I have gone months without using, and also used up to 4-5x a week, so I'm not really biased.
Just read what you posted.. do you realize how dumb you sound? You're 17 and already using intravenous drugs regularly..and you started when you were 16. Definitely a few years down the drain. LOL and you act like your the ideal role model with a prosperous life ahead of him. I am sorry but that truely is sad. I am an IV user my self.. and it just saddens me that someone so young would be as far down the path as you are. Where will you be when you are 25? Geez you can't even drive yet can you? Not even of legal drinking age..and you actually think you have will power? WTF? Delusional. Totally delusional
Most people your age are having fun playing sports having girlfriends while you are being fucking cool as hell. So damn cool I bet there are a lot of kids your age jealous. Let me guess.. high school drop out?
I find it crazy 15 and 16 year olds are shooting drugs when they are not even old enough to buy needles. Where are your parents or adults in your life? Wherever they are they must be preoccupied. Hell your brain is probably not even done growing and your injecting drugs into it. You probably stunted your growth.
You posted that 05-02-2012.. so tell us this.. how many times have you IVd in the past month? You are giving this kid advice about IVing and how you have will power yet you have only been doing it a month? WHAT THE FUCK. Truely a failure. You are more delusional then I thought.. giving advice pro-IV when you have meerly 1 month under your belt. You are a virgin. It's scary to think where you will be in 5 years. Keep up the good work though..
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mareseatoats
Bluelighter
amen!!^^
verso
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zzz101
Bluelighter
Who are you to put him down because of his age.
When I was 15/16 I new everything, then I turned 22. Anyway, point is, he is in fact, old enough to know what he is doing. what he is doing to his body at his age. I'm sure he understands that he may put himself in extra risk by doing this.
Look - 17 year old - I know you mean well, and you think that you know everything and you have your 'addiction' sorted with all the rest of things. you may be right. But let me give you some advice.
What will you be doing in 5 - 10 years time? I know you don't know, who would. but ask yourself if you'll still be doing hard drugs, then ask yourself if you'll be an addict.
Just takes time, man. Be careful.
[edit] I missed your other post. You may be very naive
When I was 15/16 I new everything, then I turned 22. Anyway, point is, he is in fact, old enough to know what he is doing. what he is doing to his body at his age. I'm sure he understands that he may put himself in extra risk by doing this.
Look - 17 year old - I know you mean well, and you think that you know everything and you have your 'addiction' sorted with all the rest of things. you may be right. But let me give you some advice.
What will you be doing in 5 - 10 years time? I know you don't know, who would. but ask yourself if you'll still be doing hard drugs, then ask yourself if you'll be an addict.
Just takes time, man. Be careful.
[edit] I missed your other post. You may be very naive
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aquanos3
Bluelighter
once you shoot dope there's no going back
rave23
Bluelighter
no, why go back? Move forward, and stay clear of addiction.
The moment you decide to shoot dope and put that needle in your arm the first time you have made a decision. From that point in time, every decision you make must be one that requires great thought and caution. The second you put that first shot in your arm it will become indescribably harder to make the right decisions to not end up an addict. Harder, but not impossible. Why would you shoot dope, and then decide "uhh that was a bad idea, i somehow want to go back before i ever even did it"? That makes no sense, and is very unreal and won't happen. Shooting dope is an AWESOME feeling, and the first time EVERYONE falls in love with. So be prepared for that, mentally, to experience the the thing you wanted to experience, and be prepared for wanting to experience it again. During those first few weeks of using, most people lay their foundation for becoming an addict.
A week or two of bad decisions and shooting dope every day, physical dependence will set in and you won't be prepared to cope with it. Addiction will play tricks on your mind, and you will delude yourself in thinking your usage is okay, and before you know it you have one solid problem that has vast tendency to grow out of proportion exponentially in no time at all.
Just so you know, this decision to shoot up dope is on the same level than having sex at the age of 16 and impregnating your neighbours daughter. It can mess up your life beyond your believes, but it doesn't have to if you have some sense and ma ke the right decisions. The best thing to do is to not take the risk, but what fun is that? The kind of fun that can derail your life and most likely will, especially if you tout stuff like "i don't have an addictive personality". Because that is a load of horeshit that all of us think, and get lulled in a false sense of safety. We feel as if though addiction can't happen to us. Go ahead kid, find out yourself.
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SameOldShit101
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THERE IS NO "I DONT HAVE AN ADDICTIVE PERSONALITY SO I WONT GET ADDICTED" NONE. YOU DONT GET TO SAY THAT. I fucking spent my LIFE on sites like bluelight reading EVERY LITTLE PIECE of information I could about addiction and harm reduction and every time a celebrity died I'd laugh at the telivision and say "what an IDIOT, had SO MUCH MONEY and yet couldn't use the damn internet to learn how to stay away from addiction and stay away from overdose, idiot!" I SPENT MY TEENNAGE LIFE researching how to help people addicted to heroin and oxycodone get off on these very forums. I was SO bright eyed and cheerful about entheogens and psychoactive plants and I would take my kratom every other day and post on bluelight trying to recommend the heroin users looking for help try different herbals and try stepping down there dose. I spent every minute that I was home alone trying to learn as much as I could, and trying to help others. I would NEVER become an addict myself. I laughed at dumb over-dosers. I HELP addicts. I now blow 80mg of Opana to my face and still crave more, even though I can't sleep because I'm having mini aneurisms as I lay in bed. I now do 15 bags of dope in one night and I reuse the needle until it hurts because by the time its blunt I'm too fucked up to care, and I still want more, and more, and more, and more... This is so stupid to even post because no one will listen, or care. But I can sit here with tears and emotion hitting me like a sledgehammer to the chest right now, and I'm not usually like this these days. These days I don't help new users, because I've lost hope and I just dont care anymore. I have become exactly what I believed my life was devoted to never becoming and I truly believe that opiates can take ANYONE and FUCK them. Sorry to hijack. Emotional junkie rant. You can play around, some of us can play around, but you never truly know if your going to end up being the one wishing you got out while you still could. I truly spent every free moment of my life researching and learning how to keep my use to recreational, my psychedlic use spiritual, ALL the BULLSHIT the internet throws at you, but now I'm on the other side of the glass.
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FnX
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Well, let me put it this way. It is possible to shoot heroin and not get addicted, but only if you don't like it that much. If you DO like it, chances are you're going to do it again soon enough and you're seriously risking addiction (eventually). So it's almost a lose-lose situation, you either try it and think "meh, don't see what's all the fuzz about IV H" or you go totally bonkers over the stuff.
bigmorin
Bluelighter
thats prob the most ignorant thing ive heard someone say on here just cause you dont think you have that gene doesnt mean its not there i know alot of people who thought the same thing and now have turned into full blown addicts so be careful and never think it cant happen to you
I'm listening and I care. And you are right, we can't say whether we will be the one who doesn't become addicted. Most likely if we've made it to bluelight, we are well on our way, or already there. I hope the OP reads this, and recognizes the reality of your post. Good luck to you. There are people out here who care.
helium-4
Bluelight Crew
I'm honestly confused on what the point of this thread is. For one, you are taking peoples comments as if they don't apply to you, because of whatever reasons you want to state. It seems like you have your mind made up on wanting to do it, and know the obvious risks, whether you feel you can avoid them, so why are you even bother asking peoples opinions on if you should IV heroin? People are clearly going to try and keep you away from starting to IV heroin as addiction can strike anyone, doesn't matter if you have a good head on your shoulders or not. Nasal heroin already has high potential for addiction as it is, so people will try and steer you away from IVing for the sake of HR. Its a reasonable thing for people to do. Now, whether or not they can truly say that you'll get hooked on IVing from trying to do one shot, is something they can not tell, but based on others experiences it isn't an unreasonable assumption. I've known people who've tried IVing and never went back to IVing again, but they weren't regular users of opioids in the first place.
Anyway, if you are going to do it, rather than asking for peoples opinions on IVing, ask for HR tips for IVing/look up all the great threads on IVing already posted and linked.
Its silly to try and argue with people about how you don't have the ability to get sucked into the lure of IV heroin addiction or heroin addiction in the first first place. People are going to run you up and down, telling you how ridiculous of a statement that is. Anyone can get addicted and anyone can slip through the cracks. Its impossible to say what will happen to you as, the future isn't written. The best way to avoid getting addicted is to avoid opioids all together and IVing if you still choose to indulge, and noone can disagree with this. Being naive will only promote the possibility of becoming addicted. So if you choose to IV, let alone continue using opioids, stop being naive about the possibilities with becoming addicted. Become more aware and think about how you can minimize the potential.
Anyway, if you are going to do it, rather than asking for peoples opinions on IVing, ask for HR tips for IVing/look up all the great threads on IVing already posted and linked.
Its silly to try and argue with people about how you don't have the ability to get sucked into the lure of IV heroin addiction or heroin addiction in the first first place. People are going to run you up and down, telling you how ridiculous of a statement that is. Anyone can get addicted and anyone can slip through the cracks. Its impossible to say what will happen to you as, the future isn't written. The best way to avoid getting addicted is to avoid opioids all together and IVing if you still choose to indulge, and noone can disagree with this. Being naive will only promote the possibility of becoming addicted. So if you choose to IV, let alone continue using opioids, stop being naive about the possibilities with becoming addicted. Become more aware and think about how you can minimize the potential.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I think this has run its course... point made
GBM
Bluelighter
Oh wow, a breakthrough! Apparently its up to the user if they get addicted to heroin and go through withdrawals when they stop. Here's me thinking it was to due with chemicals in the brain and the opiod receptors lacking opiates attached to them. Who would of thought it was as easy as "I wont get addicted" I guess all of us have been doing it wrong!
For the sake of everything that is right I hope to god you are a troll. The man without the addictive personality is the man sucking dick for his next fix. Especially if that man is slamming his drugs.
really? maybe u should get some different shit
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