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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread: 8th dose, I can't sleep so why not?

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Trying to brush up on some knowledge before fiddling w/ this new chemical to me. There's way too much to read to look through all the other previous MXE thread, so i'll start from here :)

Whenever I want to learn about a new chemical, I tend to start at the beginning of the Big & Dandy threads. Usually, when discussion of a chemical on Bluelight first begins, the people that have access to the compound tend to be more of the curious/intellectual psychonaut type rather than the stupid-kid-wanting-to-get-high type. These people tend to discuss much more pertinent and interesting variables, like dosage, ROAs, effects, and toxicity. By the time you get to Big & Dandy thread number eight zillion, you have to wade through endless posts by kids asking the same stupid questions over and over again in butchered grammar.
 
Astute info TAC.

Ahhh mxe. I enjoy it once every couple of weeks, but no more frequently than that. I'm still shocked by how strongly/badly it interacted with ethylone.
 
elaborate.....please

dislocated me but felt no deep-ness to it, was like a blunt MXE experience, shit batch. tried my other batch and it hit the spot. hard to tell whats going on with this stuff these days as its all becoming a bit dodgy, plus MXE is weird and replicates other drugs or plays tricks

Interesting - valium first. Care to detail why?

Just to be clear, have you tried MXE without a pre-dose of valium?

Makes it nicer, smoother trip. i always pop a vallie first, few lines of MXE then pop another vallie to come back down otherwise i cant sleep. going to bed on this stuff is an adventure wouldnt like to be in bed tripping without having taken a valium

Yeah ive tried it many times without the pre-dose valium. prefer it with. they're a golden combo

got a lovely afterglow today. spot on
 
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re above: using benzos with MXE is a hit n miss thing, it DOES help reduce the risk of panic and high blood pressure and pulse which ive had a few times, but it also seems to take off some of the psychadelic effects...im not sure if i like it or not. ive read that taking a benzo with a dissociative protects you from some of the neurological damage...but im torn..

like said, at the moment, the last few orders ive had, ive not really had a trip, its a mild dossiciation, a social buzz, but im not getting a trip anymore.. im not sure if its me or the batch, which as noted earlier in the thread, is being sold for less and less, which is either a pre empting of a ban, or a admission that they are selling bunk and trying to shift it fast....who knows.

...infact.. the effect/taste atm almost reminds me of coke, (i havnt had that in years, but it reminds me of it, it was my vice)..i get a rush, must be the dopamine, and a social bounce and energy, but little trippyness...


i did hole briefly the other night, but after a VERY HIGH dose and it only lasted a few min. (amazing though it was, reality melted away and i reached enlighentment (in my trip, not really)..then came down.... more often then not i have no memory now of a trip, it knockes me out, i suspect i need a break.

when i was abusing it heavily i got to a point where i was "fed up with it" physuically and mentally..it was a chore and routine, but my brain felt poisoned, i didnt have headache, but i would say "sensitive brain"..almost the sensation that im toxic. and a rest got rid of it.

play safe kids.

oh and re: that call for a ban because some idiots got drunk and took mxe and jumped in a pond....FFS!!!! yes. ban alcohol, or ponds is as logical as blaiming the MXE..in my town, getting drunk and jumping off the bridge into the river is a tradition thats lead to many deaths over the years, this is a retarded story. its a case of "darwin where are you" the idiots that jumped in a freezing pond drunk..im sorry..that says less about a drug then the people that were stupid enough to jump in a freezing pond. drunk and fucked up. if it wasnt mxe,. you know full well they would have done it on anything anyway. retards
 
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I'm 50/50 on this one. Never done K but my friends have (many, many times) and it's something i've been interested that just isn't around my area at the moment. Some people have told me MXE is what 2CE is to LSD, others claim that it just flat out sucks :3
By any chance, is MXE smokable?
 
I had my second miss in a week with MXE. I had an absolutely wonderful and blissful trip on 4-AcO-DMT with a glowing sense of inner peace and love. I decided to add 35 mg MXE about 3 hours into the trip which made me very confused, started losing my short term memory and got hypertension. It's the second time in a week MXE has had a negative impact on a tryptamine trip, although I had a poor batch last weekend. This time I had a good batch I've used before. Maybe I should just take a break from MXE and stick to tryptamines or don't mix them anymore. They've gone together wonderfully before but MXE seems to have a negative impact on my trips now.

Also, I now get a very slurring speech with doses over 30 mg, something that has never happened before even with 100+mg doses. It happens every time now, I know exactly what I want to say but it feels like my mouth is anesthesized. I talk like I'm extremely drunk even on low doses. Does anyone have any remedy for this? It didn't happen the first 1,5 years of using MXE but happens all the time now.
 
got an excellent afterglow at the moment, feel spot on and sharp, love it

Anyone finding certain batches have a salty backdrop/after taste? i swear vendors are giving out mixed shit, one of my bags from the same place looks the same but has a salty backdrop, other stuff from them seems to be good, also the salty aftertaste packet has a the label put on it badly and the bag is slightly bigger, its piss poor weak. infact i dunno what the fuck it is, had me baffled last night, then it wore off and i was thinking wtf? so tried a different packet and it worked fine, body started to twist and move as i was sat still, grains flowing across my vision
 
Sub lingual definitely works, I may have underestimated it. About 40 minutes after I dosed I holed for a few minutes which was sweet. I have a few questions regarding safely administering MXE. When I woke up today the insides of my cheeks felt a little sore, almost like they were lightly burnt or something. The area under my tongue feels normal but I know I swished the MXE saliva mixture around my mouth without realizing it so is MXE corrosive to sensitive areas of skin? I remember someone saying they got pretty bad sores under their tongue from MXE.

Also, for insuffilating can anyone recommend ways to make your nose less sore? I tried putting a little vaseline and lotion along the inside walls of my nose last night and it seemed to have positive effects, in that my nose doesn't hurt or feel dry this morning. Any thoughts or suggestions?
 
Also, for insuffilating can anyone recommend ways to make your nose less sore? I tried putting a little vaseline and lotion along the inside walls of my nose last night and it seemed to have positive effects, in that my nose doesn't hurt or feel dry this morning. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Strange, I've found MXE to be one of the easiest compounds to snort, no burn and virtually tasteless. But I guess you have other batches then.
 
MXE shouldnt be corrosive or burn. grr so annoying the batches are becoming so shit, they always used to be amazing
 
Well.....................I guess regardless of the impending UK ban....We all should be thankful.............Thankful that we all got to enjoy an AMAZING compound that may make it's way into obscurity. I'm not saying it's going to disappear....that will take at least a few years...but I am saying, we should all appreciate that we had the opportunity to enjoy TO EXCESS such a novel and interesting substance. At least the US will have a little extra time........although it will be interesting to see how the quality and availability changes. The original UK shit will always be the best though...

To people interested in this sort of thing....I have a pretty cool MXE combo for you. Subutex IV on it's own doesn't really give the kick that an experienced opiate user enjoys and is looking for. TOO MUCH MXE in an IV shot isn't that pleasurable or euphoric either, you just get kinda confused and don't really feel that great until you come down a little....and it tends to lack that smacky rush that IV Ketamine gives you. So, I figured...Why not toss some of both in a shot? Took 6mg of subutex.....25mg MXE...........and VOILA, a whole new beast has been born. This combo feels MUCH closer to a good ol' shot of Ketamine, or some psychedelic dope. Nice warm rush complimented by the psychedelic sparkliness of the MXE...Not to mention that opiates and dissociatives are antagonists of each other. The MXE really adds that extra kick that subutex lacks on it's own, and the tex takes away some of the not so euphoric feelings that IV MXE can bring on. Be Safe and enjoy this combo if you are a like minded fellow.

MXE dosage and ROA info chart

Oral - as low as 20mg can give noticeable effects. A decent dose is 50mg if you want to get into trippier territory. 100mg is the most that I would want to eat at once. I find that when taken orally, it tends to feel a bit more like DXM to me. I get that "fiery static" that DXM can give you which I don't really care for. It does last the longest with this ROA, at least 6 hours sometimes closer to 8. VERY visual ROA. The most I've eaten at once...150mgs....It was pretty damn strong and lasted for 8 hours, I just don't enjoy the way this substance feels as much from this ROA. Much more like DXM.

Snorted - my preference for ROA. Very functional if you have shit to take care of or have to go to work. This ROA has a much speedier edge to it, very amphetamine like, but still psychedelic. At lower doses, IE...35mgs or less, I don't find it to be nearly as visual as oral. Over 50-60mgs, it's just as visual as oral. If you want to get the most rocked for the longest amount of time..............instead of doing smaller bumps, just do one huge one and you'll be GOOD for a WHILE. I usually do 50mgs up each nostril in the morning and I'm good all day. I only re-dose if I'm trying to go to neon outer space. The most I've bumped at once was 250mgs. I was in a HOLE within 5-10 minutes....and my ears starting ringing as soon I did it, kinda like a big hit of crack......I'd imagine that has something to do with the whole high blood pressure issue, it definitely has this downside at higher doses. I recommend a TINY bit of a benzo. Take TOO much benzo and it'll really dampen the psychedelic aspect of the drug. It does make it slightly smoother and euphoric tho...

IM - I would imagine this to be most peoples go to ROA. It lasts a decent bit....3-5 hours depending on dose. Anyone can do an IM shot, it's not difficult. It uses less substance while still getting the desired effect + a little extra, and you get a good duration as well. Downside...they fucking hurt your muscles and in my opinion and experience, stay quite a bit more sore than a proper IV shot. Just my 2 cents though....Dosing, I'd start at 15-20mgs, then go to 30-40mg, then 50mg and so on. The most I've done at once is 75mg. I wouldn't recommend any more than that unless you KNOW what you're getting into.

IV - DOSING IS KEY. I really don't like going into an instant full blown hole off of IV MXE. It IS NOT a very gently ride. It's more like BOOOOOM....HOLE!! For a good rush, and enjoyable experience, keep it below 20-30mgs....any more than that and there IS the chance that you will hole out immediately. I've been holding the needle and cap in my hands, trying to put it back on after, and not even been able to comprehend what exactly it was that I was trying to do..........even though I was staring at the answer. It can get you "there" fucking quick, and not always pleasantly. If you want to explore the hole.........sniff your way to it, or IM yourself there. If you just want a quick, euphoric pick me up............try 10-15mgs. It's not overwhelming, just a gentle warm rush and some sparkly tingling for 1-2 hours. This ROA is not as speedy, much more sit on your couch than go out and explore the woods. I do not recommend it, it makes it even more addictive and you will likely want to re-dose by the same ROA the next time. Be careful. The most I've taken this ROA....50 mgs.....GOD DAMN that shit was fucking crazy. It looked like gigantic hologram crystals were growing out of my stucco ceiling. I couldn't even open my bottle to get out my valium, my GF had to help me. It was an out there experience.........but still enlightening in it's own way. I DO NOT advocate trying that.

Smoking - People ask about this quite a bit. MXE smokes VERY well and burns pretty fucking clean. Toss it in a bowl with some trees, roll it up in a blunt, put it in a hand rolled cigarette.....whatever, it works. Just try and not hit the powder directly with the flame, vaporize it more, you'll waste less substance. Rolled in a joint or blunt is the best. You only need 10-15mgs to get effects, but 25-35mgs is a bit more fun. It is very visual and very psychedelic when taken like this, but also not as speedy. Much more mellow and lazy, kinda like some SUPER marijuana. Almost feels like nitrous at times as well. It hits you QUICK!! Expect it. The most I've taken this ROA......100mgs in a blunt.......WOW, that was a fun night. I actually find that with this ROA, I have a much easier time falling asleep after. My GF will actually request for me to roll one up when shes having a hard time sleeping and doesn't want to waste a benzo to get to sleep. Seriously.

Sorry for the long posts. I hope this substance doesn't get taken from us..........but it looks like they're gonna steal it away. I only listed the amounts I've taken as a guide......I'm pretty crazy and retarded and don't always make the best choices...........so if I'm saying that was A LOT for me to do, it's probably also A LOT for YOU to do. Just trying to give info and keep people safe from themselves not be senor imsocool. Drugs can expand your mind or they can ruin your life....It's all your relationship with them. Balance my friends...........Balance is key! Have fun and safe MXEING. : }
 
im so grateful ive got to experience this beautiful substance as well, amazing stuff =D
 
Last night took ~20 mg sublingually, swallowed the spit after about five minutes. DIdn't really feel anything, am kind of disappointed. I wonder if the klonopin I was on dulled any of the dissociative effects? Ah well, I knew it was a tiny ass dose when I did it, it's just that MXE has a history of surprising me by exactly how much a "tiny ass" bit can do.
 
Last night took ~20 mg sublingually, swallowed the spit after about five minutes. DIdn't really feel anything, am kind of disappointed. I wonder if the klonopin I was on dulled any of the dissociative effects? Ah well, I knew it was a tiny ass dose when I did it, it's just that MXE has a history of surprising me by exactly how much a "tiny ass" bit can do.

I think it was the Kpins
 
Did I miss something? Did UK ban it?
I'm still waiting on my last fuckin' batch dammit.
I'm about ready to order another in case this one don't show.
Maybe tomorrow.

Definitely been a few weeks since I had any MXE. No side effects that I notice now.

I had some MDA pills last week that shit was crazy.
MDMA, MDA and bk-MDMA are useless compared to MXE.

MXE is a valuable psychiatric tool if you can learn how to use it so.
(quitting smoking, valuable insight, spiritual awakenings, etc)

Medically all it will fix is pain, that I know of.

I maybe wouldn't mind dissociating at the dentist..
 
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I like MXE. It's a more functional, more recreational version of K although I do like K much much more. K has a stronger sense of intoxication and psychedelia. I never get visuals on MXE like I did on K. On K I would see light fixtures warp and shift. Turning off the lights would bring something I call "k-space". I do get some CEVs on MXE (especially with cannabis), but OEVs are very minor (for reference, it'd be more mild than 15mg 2c-i or 30mg 2c-c).

I will say that MXE brings me into a much more manic state. It's fun sometimes ;) I also find it much better as a social drug. I talked about stuff I normally wouldn't like talking about. When I'm on K I like talking about abstract concepts, but it doesn't particularly lower my inhibitions regarding certain topics.

My personal experience: doses from 10mg-90mg sniffed. 20mg-70mg sublingual. 5-20mg smoked. Had about 5 different batches.

I will say that tolerance builds up VERY fast with this. I tried 15mg my very first time and I had a very strong effect. Double-vision, strong body high, impaired thinking. Now I can sublingual 20mg and seem sober.
 
i just want to see if anyone has noticed a difference between the EU stuff and the stuff that the chinese are making. most us sourced stuff is from the chinese. normally the EU stuff is more expensive. that is the main way to tell if your us source is getting it from either source.

chinese = tripping.
EU= the warm floaty comfortable stuff.

that is the experience of most i have consulted with. this leads for HUGE variations between reports. i know the chinese stuff is what people take and dont feel shit then take a huge dose and think the world is ending. the EU stuff feels like a nice anxiolytic with higher doses putting you in a COMFORTABLE hole. both lead to dopamine rebound, ie insomnia.

just giving some input. any responses are welcome.
 
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