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Random MSN Gibberings LXXXIX: Off my rocker babbling about nothing

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Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
I mean, I don't think it is likely to occur to them that they could actually become a doctor at state school.
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Oh ffs. Better tell that to the state-school (in Brighton) educated daughter of my friend, a girl now in third year at med school in London (dissertation - why are there so many idiots on the internet)
 
Mailmonkey said:
refer to my post above yours :)
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I don't think you realise how bad my school was. I'd say about half of all the students came from families described as you did; Family who loves them and pushes education etc. So how did 60% end up failing? Not only does the quality of education fail children at state school, so does the mindset they instill.
 
I don't know MSB, what this is now about is how shit you think your school was, and how shit I thought my school was, not a general thing.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Oh ffs. Better tell that to the state-school (in Brighton) educated daughter of my friend, a girl now in third year at med school in London (dissertation - why are there so many idiots on the internet)
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Congratufuckinlations, you have totally proven me wrong. Never mind the fact that my school hadn't had someone become a doctor in the 5 years before I got there, and hasn't had one in the 5 years since I left. And has only had 2 people go to Oxbridge, ever. You knowing one person who went to state school who became a doctor, must mean that children up and down the country know they can become a doctor - they just don't bother. I didn't say impossible to occur to them, I said unlikely.
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
Congratufuckinlations, you have totally proven me wrong. Never mind the fact that my school hadn't had someone become a doctor in the 5 years before I got there, and hasn't had one in the 5 years since I left. And has only had 2 people go to Oxbridge, ever. You knowing one person who went to state school who became a doctor, must mean that children up and down the country know they can become a doctor - they just don't bother. I didn't say impossible to occur to them, I said unlikely.
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He's using the same arguments you, and I, are using...drawing on personal experience.

"I'd say about half of all the students came from families described as you did; Family who loves them and pushes education ", oh, that proves it then.
 
Mailmonkey said:
I don't know MSB, what this is now about is how shit you think your school was, and how shit I thought my school was, not a general thing.
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I think we can agree that in general private schools do have, by and large, better life outcomes for children than state schools. My personal frustration with the state school system is that my friends and I could have done so much better. My closest friend got 2 A*s at GCSE, and when he got to uni he broke records. If he goes to state school with that type of intelligence and only comes out with 2 A*s, fuck knows what my children would get even with the best will in the world.
 
Mailmonkey said:
He's using the same arguments you, and I, are using...drawing on personal experience.

"I'd say about half of all the students came from families described as you did; Family who loves them and pushes education ", oh, that proves it then.
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Yes, it wasn't the drawing on personal experience that I took exception to. It was the acting like I am a retard because he, in his 30+ years on this planet, vaguely knows 1 person who became a doctor who went to state school. I mean most private schools can expect 1 or 2 per year minimum...
 
hx_ said:
Hmm depends how you define "better life outcomes". Subjective and personal again.
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In terms of things we can define, which aren't subjective, private school comes out higher. Health, wealth, success, and length of life...
 
Is that down to the schooling? Or is it down to geographical correlation? Or is it down to parent's education or careers? Diet? Household income? What pets they own?

i'm sure success can be correlated with far more than schooling, even in terms of "things we can define".
 
It's obviously down to a whole bunch of factors. I haven't ruled out that they could be successful if they went to a state school, or that there are good state schools. But in my opinion children from bad families are more likely to drag down children from good families, than good children are likely to drag them up. I'd rather pay to ensure my children go to a school with a higher density of good families.
 
It's obviously down to a whole bunch of factors. I haven't ruled out that they could be successful if they went to a state school, or that there are good state schools. But in my opinion children from bad families are more likely to drag down children from good families, than good children are likely to drag them up. I'd rather pay to ensure my children go to a school with a higher density of good families.
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That's cos your a Tory. And i'm not.

And we won't agree on this. :)

I won't send my son to a private school. And I'll try to make sure me and me wife do everything we can to let him find out who he is and what he enjoys, and what he wants to do.

You'll try to send your kids to a private school. And I'm sure you'll try to do those things i mentioned that me and my wife try to do.
 
Morning eadd - early innit :| well not for atm <3

So what's been going on in here hmmm...

Cold - in need of tea :\
 
You missed the EADD private education debate yesterday evening, after which the main 'action' was diverted elsewhere, shall we say. :\

You're not the only one who's cold - I woke up sweating too, because I was having this intense dream about being in a hotel lobby and not being able to stop myself from insulting everybody in sight. Weird, but the shock of the temperature outside my bed woke me up alright.

Tea is an excellent idea.
 
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