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Opioids oxycontin vs oxycodone
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tricomb
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Absolutely! 30mg IR Roxicodone is pretty much the best tablet form of oxycodone you can get in the US. Probably one of the "safer" pills that are shot up. (Although no pill is completely safe to IV, ALWAYS USE A MICRON FILTER WHEN SHOOTING UP PILLS EVEN ROXICODONE)
Just be careful bro, once you start IVing roxi's most people find it veryyy hard to stop. If you haven't yet, you should try plugging first! It's a great, safer alternative to IV and has a rush too.
Just be careful bro, once you start IVing roxi's most people find it veryyy hard to stop. If you haven't yet, you should try plugging first! It's a great, safer alternative to IV and has a rush too.
Yea tricomb is right the Roxis are "the best you can get" unless you're lucky enough to find old school OCs. In my area there was one pharmacy that stocked the old school Oxycontin for months after the OPs came out. People were driving from miles around to get them as everyone hated the new OPs (I'm mostly talking about people that take them for pain here).
Anyway, the roxis are about as close as you can get to the old OCs now imho.
Anyway, the roxis are about as close as you can get to the old OCs now imho.
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
Checkout this link:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/553330-Plugging-Rectal-Administration-Megathread
Basically, Plugging takes advantage of the higher rate of absorption of drugs via the rectal ROA. You basically follow the same pill-prep as for IV (crush pill, mix in cold water, micron-filter, draw, shoot) but instead, you use a needle-less syringe or an oral syringe and then administer via the rectal ROA.
This results in an IV-like rush, with a longer high and often, better pain relief. I am not sure if the Bioavailability is higher than oral (although due to the faster rate of absorption, it certainly feels like it in my experience).
It's not for everyone, some people aren't comfortable using the rectal ROA due to homophobia or whatever, but I'm straight and don't get any sexual satisfaction when I plug, I just get more out of my drugs. But nevertheless, there's always someone who isn't comfortable with it, even if it's more efficient. And that's fine, like I said it's not for everyone, but if you've got an open mind, it's very efficient, and the rectal ROA is used often in hospitals, and some medicines are made specifically for rectal administration, like DiaStat (Diazepam).
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/553330-Plugging-Rectal-Administration-Megathread
Basically, Plugging takes advantage of the higher rate of absorption of drugs via the rectal ROA. You basically follow the same pill-prep as for IV (crush pill, mix in cold water, micron-filter, draw, shoot) but instead, you use a needle-less syringe or an oral syringe and then administer via the rectal ROA.
This results in an IV-like rush, with a longer high and often, better pain relief. I am not sure if the Bioavailability is higher than oral (although due to the faster rate of absorption, it certainly feels like it in my experience).
It's not for everyone, some people aren't comfortable using the rectal ROA due to homophobia or whatever, but I'm straight and don't get any sexual satisfaction when I plug, I just get more out of my drugs. But nevertheless, there's always someone who isn't comfortable with it, even if it's more efficient. And that's fine, like I said it's not for everyone, but if you've got an open mind, it's very efficient, and the rectal ROA is used often in hospitals, and some medicines are made specifically for rectal administration, like DiaStat (Diazepam).
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VaderisBaddAss
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I've never had Roxis, but I've had a lot. I personally like Dillies, I get those rXd and tho it's better IVing them (I get it in the hospital all the time), I just would never do it myself, I'd be too afraid. I personally parachute them, then I read, and tried with success, to chase it with soda and fatty foods. Once I crushed them and wrapped it in a fruit roll up, haha it worked very well. I usually down some root beer with them, eat one or two fruit roll ups, maybe some cheez-its or potatoe chips, works great, the rush comes really fast too, forme it's just as good as getting it IV'd
@Headphones, so I dunno if you've tried this, but I also have to suffer with the OP Oxys and yea, they're a kill. (and I'll write it out for others too who haven't tried it.) But I can't really do the whole extraction process leaving it in the fridge and stuff bc I live with my dad and he doesn't work sop he's always here. What I do, is I suck off the coating, and I put two 30s in a shot glass of root beer (you can use coke, root beer is personal preference) overnight. (I've done this in in as little as 4 hrs too and it works fantastic). I'll stir it once or twic basically so the pills won't stick to the bottom or sides with my finger or a paper clip, they basically fill up like a water balloon. The longer you soak em the bigger they get, but you'll see when they're ready bc they'll have like a circle around them that looks like a mix of soda and the pill together, almost like a force field haha. Then I just take the entire shot.
Again, I'll drink more soda and have something fatty with it. They kick in like 10-15 mins and the rush is just as good as the Dillie's, sometimes stronger at its peak and sometimes I can go longer before having to redose.
People should try it bc it's sooo much easier than doing the removing the fillers by hand, the fridge thru filter to bowl and repeat thing. But then again, I haven't done that myself, it just looks like it takes a lot less effort. As long as you plan ahead of time. And usually if I don't have one brewing for myself for later, I'll jut parachute the Dillies instead then start the Root beer for when I'm ready.
Sorry to make this long, but another good thing about it too is you don't need to keep it in the fridge where others can see, you can hide it behind a book or in a cabinet even bc temperature doesn't matter. I've even done it in a pill container and taken it with me.
If ppl do this let me know whatcha think?
@Headphones, so I dunno if you've tried this, but I also have to suffer with the OP Oxys and yea, they're a kill. (and I'll write it out for others too who haven't tried it.) But I can't really do the whole extraction process leaving it in the fridge and stuff bc I live with my dad and he doesn't work sop he's always here. What I do, is I suck off the coating, and I put two 30s in a shot glass of root beer (you can use coke, root beer is personal preference) overnight. (I've done this in in as little as 4 hrs too and it works fantastic). I'll stir it once or twic basically so the pills won't stick to the bottom or sides with my finger or a paper clip, they basically fill up like a water balloon. The longer you soak em the bigger they get, but you'll see when they're ready bc they'll have like a circle around them that looks like a mix of soda and the pill together, almost like a force field haha. Then I just take the entire shot.
Again, I'll drink more soda and have something fatty with it. They kick in like 10-15 mins and the rush is just as good as the Dillie's, sometimes stronger at its peak and sometimes I can go longer before having to redose.
People should try it bc it's sooo much easier than doing the removing the fillers by hand, the fridge thru filter to bowl and repeat thing. But then again, I haven't done that myself, it just looks like it takes a lot less effort. As long as you plan ahead of time. And usually if I don't have one brewing for myself for later, I'll jut parachute the Dillies instead then start the Root beer for when I'm ready.
Sorry to make this long, but another good thing about it too is you don't need to keep it in the fridge where others can see, you can hide it behind a book or in a cabinet even bc temperature doesn't matter. I've even done it in a pill container and taken it with me.
If ppl do this let me know whatcha think?
tricomb
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sure, welcome to bluelight! I've been on BL since 2008 but I lost my other account information and recently made this one.
tricomb
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Vader- I use the same method with OP 20mg, 40mg, and 80mg. I will either break it up as fine as I can get it, and then let it soak overnight in water to plug, or coca-cola to drink the next morning. And I always do this in a pill container, it's great because you can just give it a shake or two everytime I walk by it, you can easily take it with you (multiple doses even) and they're re-usable.
VaderisBaddAss
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Yea totally, I don't even bother trying to chop it up, well cause I just take it orally so I can see why you do, I honestly can't even chop it up, I'm not strong enough! How does it work for you? Does it kick in faster, well orally, you think than if you just took them as intended?
And @Macd, yea I don't think you can send PMs yet with green lighter status.. If you send me one it won't tell you I didn't get it, so just respond to one of my blogs or something, I'm subscribed to them so I'll get your reply
And @Macd, yea I don't think you can send PMs yet with green lighter status.. If you send me one it won't tell you I didn't get it, so just respond to one of my blogs or something, I'm subscribed to them so I'll get your reply
tricomb
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It definitely kicks in faster than taking an OP and swallowing it as is. This is the best I can do with these OP's, besides occasionally using acetone to do an oxycodone extraction but I don't like having to use solvents.
We went through a lot of bullshit with the OPs. I didn't really like them, because I was mad about the fact that I'd never see a real OC again at the time (I did end up getting two more, another story 
). We only got them when nothing else was around because they were really cheap compared to the old school ones.
First method was the microwave/freezer one, which I never really cared for. Nasally the rush was nothing like the old ones, but again, good enough for what I was paying.
After that we did the "toaster oven" method which worked best for nasal ROA imo. However, like the microwave you gotta be very careful that you don't get the stuff too hot and you will lose some in the process. Also, I don't like the idea of snorting that stuff at all, but when you're chasing...
Last method was the soda over night method, which is the way to go if you ask me. I don't think you lose much, it is easy to do, and finally you can get away with it when you don't want everyone else in the house knowing what you're up to. The only downside is you have to wait a night or so before you can get well.
All that said, the OPs aren't good for you even when taken as directed imho. I do not trust the time release or the fact that it contains a known carcinogen. At the end of my use I only got these to combat W/D, and I would simply eat them. That was the one advantage of it for me, because it would keep W/D away for 24 hours if I took enough of it.
Switching topics to roxicodone;
When I was doing roxi I found a split between oral and nasal to be the best. I would hold 15mg under my tongue until it was mush, then swallow it about 5 minutes later. After that was out of the way, I'd rail 15mg. This provided the rush I was looking for combined with slightly longer duration. Using this method I could watch my pupils go pin-point in a mirror within a few minutes. They would stay that way for the better part of 8-10 hours.
HR note: don't assume 30mg of oxycodone is okay for you just because I started at that dose with roxicodone. By that time I already had a bit of a tolerance. For some people 30mg would barley take away dope sickness, for a naive user it might be more than they can handle.
BTW as someone that's done both roxi and old school OCs I have to say the rush of roxi is nothing like OC. Roxi is basically just like taking a regular old percocet with out all that APAP in it. That's why I fell in love with them, because I could snort it without having to worry about 325-500mg of APAP going up my nose with each crushed pill.
If you're looking to replicate the effects of an old school OC with pain medication the only thing close to it is a bit of Opana ER mixed with Roxicodone done nasally. That will provide a similar rush/high of old school OC, but it won't kick in as fast nor will it feel the same. Opana by itself is strong as is, but it lacks the euphoria of oxycodone IME which is why Roxi was added to the mix in my circles.
Keep in mind mixing Opana ER and Roxicodone and railing it isn't exactly a bright idea. You have to be very careful with it.
). We only got them when nothing else was around because they were really cheap compared to the old school ones.First method was the microwave/freezer one, which I never really cared for. Nasally the rush was nothing like the old ones, but again, good enough for what I was paying.
After that we did the "toaster oven" method which worked best for nasal ROA imo. However, like the microwave you gotta be very careful that you don't get the stuff too hot and you will lose some in the process. Also, I don't like the idea of snorting that stuff at all, but when you're chasing...
Last method was the soda over night method, which is the way to go if you ask me. I don't think you lose much, it is easy to do, and finally you can get away with it when you don't want everyone else in the house knowing what you're up to. The only downside is you have to wait a night or so before you can get well.
All that said, the OPs aren't good for you even when taken as directed imho. I do not trust the time release or the fact that it contains a known carcinogen. At the end of my use I only got these to combat W/D, and I would simply eat them. That was the one advantage of it for me, because it would keep W/D away for 24 hours if I took enough of it.
Switching topics to roxicodone;
When I was doing roxi I found a split between oral and nasal to be the best. I would hold 15mg under my tongue until it was mush, then swallow it about 5 minutes later. After that was out of the way, I'd rail 15mg. This provided the rush I was looking for combined with slightly longer duration. Using this method I could watch my pupils go pin-point in a mirror within a few minutes. They would stay that way for the better part of 8-10 hours.
HR note: don't assume 30mg of oxycodone is okay for you just because I started at that dose with roxicodone. By that time I already had a bit of a tolerance. For some people 30mg would barley take away dope sickness, for a naive user it might be more than they can handle.
BTW as someone that's done both roxi and old school OCs I have to say the rush of roxi is nothing like OC. Roxi is basically just like taking a regular old percocet with out all that APAP in it. That's why I fell in love with them, because I could snort it without having to worry about 325-500mg of APAP going up my nose with each crushed pill.
If you're looking to replicate the effects of an old school OC with pain medication the only thing close to it is a bit of Opana ER mixed with Roxicodone done nasally. That will provide a similar rush/high of old school OC, but it won't kick in as fast nor will it feel the same. Opana by itself is strong as is, but it lacks the euphoria of oxycodone IME which is why Roxi was added to the mix in my circles.
Keep in mind mixing Opana ER and Roxicodone and railing it isn't exactly a bright idea. You have to be very careful with it.
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
Those two have been my DOC lately
VaderisBaddAss
Bluelighter
So I've read in numerous different places not to heat Oxy anytime for any reason that it was really bad. Before I knew this I tried to microwave the pill so it old get soft enough so I could crush it, but it just never got to that point! Then I read not to. So I switched to he soda thing. And I've actually got it good and ready in 4 hrs!
Headphones, mind of I PM you?
Headphones, mind of I PM you?
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
You shouldn't heat opiates, because it destroys them. You probably lost some OC by microwaving.
You shouldn't heat opiates when mixing them with water to IV/plug for the same reason, and in addition it releases more waxes, binders, and fillers into your shot. Overall, heat and opiates is a big nono. Opiates are freely soluble in cold water.
You shouldn't heat opiates when mixing them with water to IV/plug for the same reason, and in addition it releases more waxes, binders, and fillers into your shot. Overall, heat and opiates is a big nono. Opiates are freely soluble in cold water.
It's hard to find info on the BA of rectal administration of various drugs. It also seems to be very subjective, where some people swear by it, and others don't get much out of it.
Here is the Bioavailability/Half-life Mega Thread which has some listed, and I see that is says that the oxycodone BA is the same for oral and rectal, so it's probably worth it to try plugging it. If the BA is the same but you get a little rush from plugging, it would be worth it.
I will second the Opana + Roxi mix; my favorite. It has to be 40 ERs though. the lower dose ones like the 20s are the same size pill but less oxyM.
40er powder = 20% oxymorphone
20er powder = 10% oxymorphone
so like think about if it was heroin disregarding price the 40er is double the quality
40er powder = 20% oxymorphone
20er powder = 10% oxymorphone
so like think about if it was heroin disregarding price the 40er is double the quality
ThHardMotherfucker
Ex-Bluelighter
Oxycodone = Addictive drug which works a strong, opioid analgesic which is used to treat severe pain, sometimes acute or long acting. It is available in many preparations, including, in your country Percocet and OxyBrufen, and lastly, OxyContin to produce long acting pain management.
OxyContin = Oxycodone.
Should of used Google bro, or either you're fucked up
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macd610
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Ok guys and girls...particularly Vader & Tricomb-
Just tried plugging for the first time tonight (about 45 min ago). First, I wanna say I thoroughly enjoyed the results, even though I skipped what seemed to be an important step-crushing the pill. This wasn't intentional ;I just forgot.
I just dropped a 30ir into about 5ml of spring water and shook it up periodically for 20 min or so. At that point there was no turning back so I went with it.
Once the pill had totally dissolved, I drew it up into a dental syringe. I didn't have the luxury of being able to lay on my side timewise. Just sat on commode and slowly injected it and immediately got up....DID have a teensy bit of leakage upon standing. I felt the effects within 5 minutes. Im about to hit the sack now.
Wonder how much I lost?
Anyway, thanks for the help. Tomorrow I will do it properly to see if it's even better!
Night, all
Just tried plugging for the first time tonight (about 45 min ago). First, I wanna say I thoroughly enjoyed the results, even though I skipped what seemed to be an important step-crushing the pill. This wasn't intentional ;I just forgot.
I just dropped a 30ir into about 5ml of spring water and shook it up periodically for 20 min or so. At that point there was no turning back so I went with it.
Once the pill had totally dissolved, I drew it up into a dental syringe. I didn't have the luxury of being able to lay on my side timewise. Just sat on commode and slowly injected it and immediately got up....DID have a teensy bit of leakage upon standing. I felt the effects within 5 minutes. Im about to hit the sack now.
Wonder how much I lost?
Anyway, thanks for the help. Tomorrow I will do it properly to see if it's even better!
Night, all
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