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One Dose or Redose? If just one dose, please state what size your dose is

Do you Redose or just take 1 dose of mdma?

  • 1 Dose ONLY

    Votes: 9 25.0%
  • Redose

    Votes: 27 75.0%

  • Total voters
    36

Darksidesam

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I wanted to create this poll in order to see just what kind of percentage of users redose mdma over just one single dose.

Me personally, i take one dose between 100mg all the way up to a 180mg pill when i was at a festival (naughty naughty i needed babysat Lol)

Nowadays though, i take a 40 - 60 day wait and just enjoy 100mg crystal mdma in a capsule.


Does anybody out there know what Shulgins view on redosing is? I generally tell people to avoid it, i think it just ruins it for your next time, i always have such an amazing time even on 100mg,

****EDIT****


Right this is coming from some deep thoughts from myself. There are going to be quite a few of us out there who use mdma at raves, and as lots of you know raves can go on for a good 8 hours, and many people like to be 'up' or 'rolling' for that long.

I personally take 1 dose, then do bits of ketamine afterwards, but i think To be honest a redose of 60mg to extend your 'roll' is probably a lot less harmful than becoming addicted to ketamine FROM experience.

I was just mainly interested to know how many of yous dose once like myself, and how many of you's dose again and again.

just 1 redose of say 60mg seems to be More sensible in my eyes now,

And Darksidesam if i just do one 60mg redose then the comedown is fine but necking all my bombs within 3 hours like on Friday has left me feeling a bit shit today, but luckily it's half term
so one minor redose of 60mg seems fine,
Stay safe people PLUR
 
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I try to get the common dose of 100-150 initially, then redose with half that right around the peak. I like it to last as long as possible, cause this stuff is the SHIT! :D
 
i got to events that last from about 9pm to 6am. ideally i drop about 130mg at midnight, then an hour and a half later drop 60mg, then in another hour drop another 60mg.

however last friday i dropped 130mg at midnight, 60mg at 1:30am, the other 60mg at 2am and then another 130mg at about 3am and i was off my tits. i'd advise against doing that though, it was fun but it's something i'd only really do once because i wasn't very lucid and was in my own little world, that and the high was quite speedy towards the end without much euphoria.
 
Don't you suffer nasty comedowns like that though chesh?

When i used to redose in the beginning, they were some of the worst comedowns i ever had.
 
i got to events that last from about 9pm to 6am. ideally i drop about 130mg at midnight, then an hour and a half later drop 60mg, then in another hour drop another 60mg.

however last friday i dropped 130mg at midnight, 60mg at 1:30am, the other 60mg at 2am and then another 130mg at about 3am and i was off my tits. i'd advise against doing that though, it was fun but it's something i'd only really do once because i wasn't very lucid and was in my own little world, that and the high was quite speedy towards the end without much euphoria.

wouldnt even notice 60mg :S

i always redose.

standard pill i would take would be 150-200mg

only get really bad comedowns if i eat loads of them, i always regret eating loads.

but im a redoser, its just how it goes, wouldnt feel satisfied with just 100mg, especially pure MD, its kinda weak.

because its made on a large scale its generally pretty shit quality, quality you find in pills is well better.
 
Straight from PIHKAL:

DOSAGE: 80 - 150 mg.

DURATION: 4 - 6 h.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 100 mg) MDMA intrigued me because everyone I asked, who had used it, answered the question, 'What's it like?' in the same way: 'I don't know.' 'What happened?' 'Nothing.' And now I understand those answers. I too think nothing happened. But something seemed changed. Before the 'window' opened completely, I had some somatic effects, a tingling sensation in the fingers and temples--a pleasant sensation, not distracting. However, just after that there was a slight nausea and dizziness similar to a little too much alcohol. All these details disappeared as I walked outside. My mood was light, happy, but with an underlying conviction that something significant was about to happen. There was a change in perspective both in the near visual field and in the distance. My usually poor vision was sharpened. I saw details in the distance that I could not normally see. After the peak experience had passed, my major state was one of deep relaxation. I felt that I could talk about deep or personal subjects with special clarity, and I experienced some of the feeling one has after the second martini, that one is discoursing brilliantly and with particularly acute analytical powers.

(with 100 mg) Beforehand, I was aware of a dull, uncaring tiredness that might have reflected too little sleep, and I took a modest level of MDMA to see if it might serve me as a stimulant. I napped for a half hour or so, and woke up definitely not improved. The feeling of insufficient energy and lack of spark that I'd felt before had become something quite strong, and might be characterized as a firm feeling of negativity about everything that had to be done and everything I had been looking forward to. So I set about my several tasks with no pleasure or enjoyment and I hummed a little tune to myself during these activities which had words that went: 'I shouldn't have done that, oh yes, I shouldn't have done that, oh no, I shouldn't have done that; it was a mistake.' Then I would start over again from the beginning. I was stuck in a gray space for quite a while, and there was nothing to do but keep doing what I had to do. After about 6 hours, I could see the whole mental state disintegrating and my pleasant feelings were coming back. But so was my plain, ornery tiredness. MDMA does not work like Dexedrine.

(with 120 mg) I feel absolutely clean inside, and there is nothing but pure euphoria. I have never felt so great, or believed this to be possible. The cleanliness, clarity, and marvelous feeling of solid inner strength continued throughout the rest of the day, and evening, and through the next day. I am overcome by the profundity of the experience, and how much more powerful it was than previous experiences, for no apparent reason, other than a continually improving state of being. All the next day I felt like 'a citizen of the universe' rather than a citizen of the planet, completely disconnecting time and flowing easily from one activity to the next.

(with 120 mg) As the material came on I felt that I was being enveloped, and my attention had to be directed to it. I became quite fearful, and my face felt cold and ashen. I felt that I wanted to go back, but I knew there was no turning back. Then the fear started to leave me, and I could try taking little baby steps, like taking first steps after being reborn. The woodpile is so beautiful, about all the joy and beauty that I can stand. I am afraid to turn around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I did look, and I am astounded. Everyone must get to experience a profound state like this. I feel totally peaceful. I have lived all my life to get here, and I feel I have come home. I am complete.

(with 100 mg of the "R" isomer) There were the slightest of effects noted at about an hour (a couple of paresthetic twinges) and then nothing at all.

(with 160 mg of the "R" isomer) A disturbance of baseline at about forty minutes and this lasts for about another hour. Everything is clear by the third hour.

(with 200 mg of the "R" isomer) A progression from an alert at thirty minutes to a soft and light intoxication that did not persist. This was a modest +, and I was at baseline in another hour.

(with 60 mg of the "S" isomer) The effects began developing in a smooth, friendly way at about a half-hour. My handwriting is OK but I am writing faster than usual. At the one hour point, I am quite certain that I could not drive, time is slowing down a bit, but I am mentally very active. My pupils are considerably dilated. The dropping is evident at two hours, and complete by the third hour. All afternoon I am peaceful and relaxed, but clear and alert, with no trace of physical residue at all. A very successful ++.

(with 100 mg of the "S" isomer) I feel the onset is slower than with the racemate. Physically, I am excited, and my pulse and blood pressure are quite elevated. This does not have the 'fire' of the racemate, nor the rush of the development in getting to the plateau.

(with 120 mg of the "S" isomer) A rapid development, and both writing and typing are impossible before the end of the first hour. Lying down with eyes closed eliminates all effects; the visual process is needed for any awareness of the drug's effects. Some teeth clenching, but no nystagmus. Excellent sleep in the evening.

EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY: In clinical use, largely in psychotherapeutic sessions of which there were many in the early years of MDMA study, it became a common procedure to provide a supplemental dosage of the drug at about the one and a half hour point of the session. This supplement, characteristically 40 milligrams following an initial 120 milligrams, would extend the expected effects for about an additional hour, with only a modest exacerbation of the usual physical side-effects, namely, teeth clenching and eye twitching. A second supplement (as, for instance, a second 40 milligrams at the two and a half hour point) was rarely felt to be warranted. There are, more often than not, reports of tiredness and lethargy on the day following the use of MDMA, and this factor should be considered in the planning of clinical sessions.
 
So all our mdma we tend to consume is S Isomer ?
(with 100 mg of the "S" isomer) I feel the onset is slower than with the racemate. Physically, I am excited, and my pulse and blood pressure are quite elevated. This does not have the 'fire' of the racemate, nor the rush of the development in getting to the plateau.

Just like ketamine, is S isomer the more potent ? i didn't realise mdma was that complicated!!!
 
wouldnt even notice 60mg :S

i always redose.

standard pill i would take would be 150-200mg

only get really bad comedowns if i eat loads of them, i always regret eating loads.

but im a redoser, its just how it goes, wouldnt feel satisfied with just 100mg, especially pure MD, its kinda weak.

because its made on a large scale its generally pretty shit quality, quality you find in pills is well better.

If a standard pill you take is 150-200mg and you can eat "loads of them" you obviously don't know how much MDMA is in your pills. Look at the Pihkal entry for dosaging. You would be on a completely different tier than above if you even ate 1 pill. Let alone "loads of them"....think before you post.
 
So all our mdma we tend to consume is S Isomer ?


Just like ketamine, is S isomer the more potent ? i didn't realise mdma was that complicated!!!

I'm pretty sure all the MDMA we get as a consumer has both S Isomer and R Isomer. They were just able to separate the Isomers and see what parts of the chemical induces what effects.
 
If a standard pill you take is 150-200mg and you can eat "loads of them" you obviously don't know how much MDMA is in your pills. Look at the Pihkal entry for dosaging. You would be on a completely different tier than above if you even ate 1 pill. Let alone "loads of them"....think before you post.

i was just answering the poll.

i dont even know how that entry is even slightly relevant to my post...?

what i mean by eating loads of them is eating them throughout the night....have 1 then 3-4 hours after eat another...dont know about you but the pills i get are all lab tested and dutch goodness.

i do know how much mdma is in my pills, dont make false assumptions.
 
i was just answering the poll.

i dont even know how that entry is even slightly relevant to my post...?

what i mean by eating loads of them is eating them throughout the night....have 1 then 3-4 hours after eat another...dont know about you but the pills i get are all lab tested and dutch goodness.

i do know how much mdma is in my pills, dont make false assumptions.

I just would hate for someone to think that if a standard pill you get is 150-200mg that they should go dose 150-200mg since that's a "standard" they read. If someone was to eat 150-200mg of pure at once, most likely going to be puking their brains out in the bathroom.
 
wouldnt even notice 60mg :S

it just extends the effects for another couple of hours.

And Darksidesam if i just do one 60mg redose then the comedown is fine but necking all my bombs within 3 hours like on Friday has left me feeling a bit shit today, but luckily it's half term.
 
I just would hate for someone to think that if a standard pill you get is 150-200mg that they should go dose 150-200mg since that's a "standard" they read. If someone was to eat 150-200mg of pure at once, most likely going to be puking their brains out in the bathroom.

by standard i mean thats a normal pill i get, by no means did i say thats a standard dose for anybody to take.

i think you got the wrong end of the stick.

ive never actually puked on MDMA, everybody is different though.
 
ive never actually puked on MDMA, everybody is different though

Me neither man,
not on 100mg, not on 150mg, not on 180mg...
I consider myself a very VERY Low tolerance user to MDMA.
Ive never been sick from any drug though. Iron stomach Lol
didnt even get nausea from 2cb
 
Me neither man,
not on 100mg, not on 150mg, not on 180mg...
I consider myself a very VERY Low tolerance user to MDMA.
Ive never been sick from any drug though. Iron stomach Lol
didnt even get nausea from 2cb

closest ive been was the other night, burning up but felt cold and felt sick.... :(

maybe when i start going to raves i might not redose... but when i take them at home or mates house redosing just feels like the right thing to do :P
 
I start with one fat dose, than keep redosing as long as I want to roll.... its horrible for me.

back a year ago I would redose up to like 5 times... that was just plain stupid. Now I cant redose more than once without a bad comedown. I need to be a lot safer with it now to avoid a week of depression

My next roll will probably be about 150mgs with another 50 like an hour later
 
Keeping in mind the half-life of MDMA and other potentially unwanted chemicals, when I roll I take one dose only (150mgs average) and supplement with antioxidants/melatonin for peace of mind concerning the potential neurotoxicity.
I've learned the hard way that redosing anytime within the same week or a few weeks of the roll won't produce the same effects as taking a dose after a long break, so I only roll every few months.
 
If my tolerance is low, I start with an oral dose of 140-220 mg, then re-dose with 70-120 mg, and spread out about 500 mg orally the rest of the night.

If my tolerance is high, I start with an oral dose of 250 - 460 mg, then re-dose with 150 - 300 mg, and spread out 300 - 500 mg orally the rest of the night.
 
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