Drugs to counteract phenibut

[iconoclast56]

I tried phenibut for the first time today but I've been reading about people ending up sick for up to 12 hours after ingesting doses as low as 2.5g so I'm a bit worried now that I might have taken too much. I took 3g. It was approximately 2 hours ago and I am feeling nothing at all yet. It usually takes at least 3g of GHB to make the room start spinning for me. Takes at least 5g of GHB to make me feel sick enough to puke. Anyone here experimented with methods of reversing the effects of phenibut for situations where one took too much? I have dextroamphetamine but I'm reluctant to combine drugs with phenibut before learning more about it.

EDIT: When I started this thread I was in the midst of a GHB dopamine rebound. The anxiety obviously had me worrying over nothing lol. I should feel the effects of the phenibut once this dopamine rebound has fully worn off. GHB doesn't seem to agree with me, I couldn't even get 4 hours of sleep on it last night. What the hell is wrong with this world we live in? The government treats us like criminals for resorting to self medication as a result of the fact that doctors and psychiatrists are too closed minded and ignorant to prescribe substances that we know alleviate our ailments. Opioids are perfect for counteracting all side effects caused by amphetamines, I wish these mindless idiots (government, law enforcement, anti drug activists etc.) would just get the fuck out of my way and stop hindering my attempts to help myself.

 

[dip12]

Phenibut is can be more subtle compared to GHB for example, don't let this fool you however - it's still effective and can produce a hangover effect the next day. It can also have a withdrawal syndrome after prolonged use.

As general advice dexedrine + GHB used adhoc sounds like a recipe for a number of problems and I would advice caution. Downers mask a lot of the side effects/symptoms/warning effects of stimulant overuse and as such can multiply the potential physiological and psychological problems of such compounds.

Pride comes before a fall, be careful.

 

[Solipsis]

Speak for yourself, I can get a very excited feeling from phenibut. 2.5 grams is not a small dose if you ask me!!! I take doses more along the lines of 300-400 and with multiple ones go up to about a gram. Overdosing which I would more or less suspect for myself at 2.5 grams looking at past experiences, can give a horrible toxic feeling. I can't really explain it, it's not real nausea or simple dizziness but it's pretty much a sensation of sickness and misery.
Honestly I am surprised when I read people taking gram after gram of the stuff and not getting adverse reactions. It all must mean that I am relatively sensitive which also explains why I get such worthwhile results from phenibut and GHB.

As for counteracting it, I don't think taking more drugs is the answer and anti-GABAergics are dangerous IIRC, if you can even find them. Best is to just learn from your mistake if you have had such nasty feelings and avoid it in the future, if you take a similar dose again it's your own fault. Also, remember that phenibut can really enhance the effects of other GABAergics.
And cycle your use if you take such high doses, unless you want GHB/benzo-like withdrawals.

Pharmacologically speaking, I'd think that anti-GABAergic action could take some of the edge off because it would make the receptors occupied and unavailable for the excess phenibut floating around acting all GABA-like.
Also I wonder about the potential of drugs like gabapentin and pregabalin, in this case it would certainly make things worse but the reason I bring it up is because as I understand it they can serve to restore natural GABA/glutamate balance. And in that same rationale it would almost make sense to ingest a lot of glutamate to compensate for the phenibut... but then it's a double OD, don't do this I am just fantasizing out loud.

 

[dip12]

Overdosing which I would more or less suspect for myself at 2.5 grams looking at past experiences, can give a horrible toxic feeling. I can't really explain it, it's not real nausea or simple dizziness but it's pretty much a sensation of sickness and misery.

^Couldn't have described it better, very true

Pharmacologically speaking, I'd think that anti-GABAergic action could take some of the edge off because it would make the receptors occupied and unavailable for the excess phenibut floating around acting all GABA-like.

Anti-GABAergic ? Are you referring to gaba antagonists - these tend to be horrible seizure inducing compounds - most certainly not the solution.

Definately agree though, adding in more drugs is not the answer to such problems.

 

[23536]

I wonder if a smidgen of wormwood would do anything. It's listed as a GABA antagonist, and I've used very small doses of it to avert vasovagal syncope.

 

[dip12]

I wonder if a smidgen of wormwood would do anything. It's listed as a GABA antagonist, and I've used very small doses of it to avert vasovagal syncope.

Thujone supposedly works on GABA(a) - phenibut/GHB works on GABA(b) & GHB receptors. Buts thats mostly irrelevant, thujone is weak, complex and not fully understood. Removing a drug is often a more sensible and predictable approach over adding more complexity.