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Symptoms of Psychedelics use starting to go wrong?

OTGee

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Hey, this hasn't been a big worry on my mind but it has been something ive thought about occasionally. I have noticed that theres quite a lot of things I cannot do as well socially or mentally, not many but a few that I could do better before I tripped. I also think mentally im a bit weaker or something, im not sure its hard to think about how I was mentally before I tripped, it seems like a before and after of a complete different perspective. I feel im a lot more spacey, less motivated and a bit slow and dopey since using psy drugs. Whenever I smoke cannabis or cannabinoids I get a very very large amount of static and CEV's imprint the walls, when I am sober less distinct CEV's imprint the walls and carpet etc. I get minor visual distortions occasionally but nothing like HPPD.

My use of psy's started with a first trip of 1.5mg DOC alone with my and my fiancee on holiday in a little scottish, very elegant and rich village. Surreal to say the least, I had prior experiance to other drugs including grass, mdma, dxm, freebase, mephedrone, valium, cocaine + some codeine products. After this trip I didn't trip for another 2 weeks but then on my fiancee's birthday we decided to order 100mg's of aMT as we didn't know anyone were we lived that sold psychedelics. In the next 5 months after that first trip we used aMT usually once a week sometimes twice sometimes not at all. Im aware this is a bit of overuse and stupidity but we were on are psychedelic honeymoon and it was the only substance available to us apart from MDMA but im not a huge fan of that. We then decided to slow down from our aMT use, we had lost most of our friends and become not very social at all mainly spending time together in my room. Me and her have always done this though as we have an amazing connection mentally and we prefer to be alone together over anyone elses company. After a 1 - 2 week break from aMT we were back tripping once a month maybe less frequent on aMT. I tried a very small amount of a 2c-x + tripped on lsd twice (my favorite experiance yet although I thought it was a bit cold unlike warm aMT). I have now taken a break for a few weeks to a month to a couple months of all drugs apart from cannabinoids + the real deal. As me and my fiancee realised that are use of substances was making us paranoid, edgy, anxious, socially awkward + many other negative things. For a month I thought that me and my girlfriend were weirdo's bordering on isnane people I was so paranoid.

Now were these syymptoms of my psychedelic use or were they just probably other things in ym life that contributed. Of course it would be hard for anyone to say as you dont know me but just take a guess.

I am currently growing mushrooms + waiting on a sample of 25I-NBOMe but think I will hold off on taking these for a while. I jsut feel like im so much more mentally active after tripping that it is hard for me to function and not be spacey as im constantly thinking. I kinda wish I could go back to ignorance and its bliss, you know? Anyway, any replys would be great.
 
I guess in a way that is 'HPPD' don't let that bother you though, it's more common than you think.
With the other symptoms, A lot of people will tell you, it will pass with time it definitely does not sounds like any perm damage or anything that you should worry about as you worrying will only exacerbate the situation. Smoking weed after you have experienced a trip will never be the same again and it is most likely you will experience all the CEV's for a very long time. Also RC serotonergic drugs could very easily have negative effects like this through constant abuse. So my best advice to you is, stop with the psychs and (stims?) for a while. Eat healthily get good sleep do productive things and remember you are not alone a lot of others have been through similar things like this.
 
ime, the early warning signs are obvious increase in adrenaline levels, thus raising my blood pressure-- that's right about when the thought loops start to form.

youve just gotta nip in in the bud right then and there. remind yourself you are simply on psychedelics and that you are in control. the thoughts loops only get faster and more elaboate thus creating more confusion. but that is the perfect moment to take a sec for yourself, maybe briefly change scenery and go get some fresh air or at least not confine yourslef to the same 4 walls, get your thoughts together, and once you have your set and setting adjusted, adress whatever it is that is at the center of this negative energy and either confront it and think of how to change it, or simply rationalize with yourself and say it is what it is, and leave it to tend to on your comedown/ integration process.

things rarely go south for no reason at all. sometimes its not even you; it could be someone in your group having a tense time tha carries over into your experience, either way, find a way to adjust that crap quick before you let it take hold of you. and if you are on a large dose or a heavy deep chem, take a benzo and a few moments to yourself to breath and stay calm- but only if things are moving way too fast, and you feel youve lost too much control already

i strongly suggest always trying to resolve the problem, rather than just blanketing it with benzos, bc that can sometimes just lead to a more laid back, but more confusing state of unease. its always best to get down to brass tax and take back your control. remind yourself that you put yourslef in that state to celebrate and 'wow' at the idea of life, not be afraid of it...always remember that you are free, you are a human, just being, and that you got this, no worries! ;)
 
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Yeah, aMT has a weird long after glow so some of it is just very long afterglows of bad trips. 1. Were I thought me + fiancee were insane 2. Took MXE + AM 694-2201 on aMT a few times resulting in intense exp then tripped soon after. All while I was unemployed with not the biggest social life so I had a lot of time thinking and being on my own. I think this break will do me good, I would like to break from synth cannabinoids as well as I feel they created some of the anxiety + mental problems but I cant afford to buy any more then a few g's of cannabis a week so I have to continue smoking them.
 
there is this guy called Todd Skinner

he was an LSD chemist who eventually became insane, psychotic, severely deluded - ruthlessly rape, beat, drugged his girlfriend and her boyfriend. of course you get people who have never taken any psychedelics and turn out all fucked up, but this guy was genuinely OK for a good while

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everything in moderation, pay attention to set and setting

there are many people who take many many trips and turn out totally fine, but some people seem to be predisposed to serious mental disorder. personally i think you, mr first post, are OK, and you are simply worrying, but i just thought i'd show you what fucked up truly is, to give you some context
 
there is this guy called Todd Skinner

he was an LSD chemist who eventually became insane, psychotic, severely deluded - ruthlessly rape, beat, drugged his girlfriend and her boyfriend. of course you get people who have never taken any psychedelics and turn out all fucked up, but this guy was genuinely OK for a good while

But the boston strangler was genuinely ok for a while too. It's difficult to "blame" things like this on psychedelics.

Incidentally didn't neurosoup roll over on this guy and tell a lot of tales about him to lessen her boyfriends sentence? Are we sure the stories about him arn't just what neurosoup told the feds to get off?
 
no todd skinner was her boyfriend, she was raped and tortured by him - he went insane

well i dont know whether krystle cole is worthy of all the hatred she gets on the internet, sure she's no einstein and i get the impression she probably told a few lies and acted in self-interested ways a few times along the way, as do many involved in the drug trade, and even just in the human condition... but overall i think she is the vulnerable girl in the whole picture

but im just some guy, i dont know everything about it all
 
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i don't think todd skinner was ever "okay." I think he was a manipulative sociopath his entire life.

there's no reason to believe he ever received any training as a chemist, either. afaik his only attempt to synthesize lsd ended very badly.
 
Well I got the exsact same feeling after I had taken DXM for h half of a year like in distances from 2 weeks. I am on my 3 weeks and I still feel high and I can concentrate very well and my memory has gotten abd but it is all getting better over the time I notice it less and less every day.

If I were you I would sell the shromms and keep the money or jsut give them away. Everything your no felling are sideeffkts of the drugs you took They will soon go away if you cut your drug usages down if i were you I would jsut stop forever. I meen sure it always feels nice being high but the real life is so much nicer. Try legal highs like lucid dreaming or alcohol or even nutmeg... But dont get further maby even cannabis but cannabis is stil la gateway to other drugs so yeah ...

I wish I could tell you more but this is all I know....
 
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