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Heroin What is the safest method of administration?

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Stan the man

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I've read a few posts but I can never seem to find a direct answer. Which way of using this drug is associated with the least amount of risk? (i.e. infection, death, OD, nausea, etc.)

Common sense tells me injecting is out but what about snorting or smoking? (Roll it in a joint, smoke out of a special pipe, or smoke it off of foil) Will just straight up eating it do anything?
 
Smoking is the safest ROA due to the fact that effects are felt very quickly which allows one to titrate one's dose carefully.

Smoking off foil is the most efficient method of smoking but it requires a bit of practice.
 
Venrak said:
Smoking is the safest ROA due to the fact that effects are felt very quickly which allows one to titrate one's dose carefully.

Smoking off foil is the most efficient method of smoking but it requires a bit of practice.
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I agree but keep in mind it is still possible to overdose and potentially die this way just like any other ROA.
 
I would suggest using a hot knife and not tin foil if you are smoking due to tin foil burning and inhaling its fumes.
 
I think a spoon would be too thick. From all I've heard, smoking is the safest way to consume heroin, and it has the least chance of overdose (I'm not including oral, as that's hardly ever even considered).
 
I don't think a spoon would work as well, but a metal flat spatchula seems like a good choice, just heat the corner up red hot with straw in mouth and then put a match size amount of dope. (smaller sizes equals less waist when it smokes)

I am not very good at giving directions for hot knifing, but this is how I have done it with other substances and once or twice with heroin. (I was an I.V. er)
 
im surprised the op didnt say if it was tar, smokable powder or #4. Snort it it seemed safe for me. what about people trying to smoke heroin off tin foil and then getting that toxic leukanth(wtv cant spell it)?
 
Ohayou said:
I agree but keep in mind it is still possible to overdose and potentially die this way just like any other ROA.
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Absolutely right to note that so not disagreeing, but very difficult to smoke fast enough chasing off foil to put you into OD territory, even for someone skilled in chasing. You'd tend to nod out before getting there. Maybe in a pipe it would be possible to vapourise a larger amount without loss producing a larger hit, IDK? I have no stats whatsoever on this but I would think ODs from smoking are typically a result of a combination of substances, alcohol being a common one, benzos being another?

dkmonk said:
Anyone tried smoking it in a oil burner? (meth pipe)
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Dkmonk, not tried it but you can certainly smoke base heroin in a large-bowled meth pipe, running the gear around the bowl as you heat it. Tar also I would think?

Stan the man said:
Common sense tells me injecting is out but what about snorting or smoking? (Roll it in a joint, smoke out of a special pipe, or smoke it off of foil) Will just straight up eating it do anything?
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Rolling it in a joint would be very low risk, as you'll be setting fire to most of it so the stuff never enters your system. ;) That's a complete waste of time and gear. You need to use indirect heat if smoking so you can get to the vapourisation point without burning.
 
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Tar is most definitely smokable. Only seen it the once ((( Very rare in the UK when I was using. Ours is nearly all base H. ))) but ran well on foil and was strong compared to what we had around at the time. I would strongly recommend you smoke the stuff off foil as the least risky ROA.
 
what drug are we talking about here? H? Safest is railing it and give it at least 20 minutes to determine its strength. Mainlining is by far the most risky. Remember heroin is not a controlled substance you can get some caps that have been stepped on 10 times and contain maybe 20 % of the good stuff or for some reason you will get unadulterated H and the whole street, city will end up in the morgue. Unfortunately thats when most people go out looking for more of the same. I find that really sad. Drugs will ruin you man, and H is one nasty bitch. Stay away is my best bet but Im not gonna preach. Any other methods dont really have much of a positive ROA.
 
If it's tar, smoke it. Like everyone is saying here, it's hard to OD that way. I smoked quite a bit my first time, and with no tolerance, it just made me nod in a very pleasant way. Start small, wait a while, and do more if needed. IV is the most risky and that's how I OD'd my first time shooting. Didn't know what I was doing and paid the price.

And on smoking; foil, lighter, large diameter straw or something similar. That's the best way to do it. No spoons or knives.
 
Which method of heroin use is best for harm reduction?

I would like to get some opinions, maybe even some facts, on what is a safer means of using heroin. In this case powdered tan-ish H#4, the stuff you typically see in the northeast of the USA. The 2 ways I would like to see people's opinion on in terms of degree of harm reduction are:

1. Simply snorting, or insufflation as a ROA. No filtering or any other methods to reduce harm.

2. IV as ROA after using a micron filter to prepare the injection.

Of course this is assuming you are practicing aseptic IV administration, prepping the IV location and not re-using needles. Also the snorting is off a sterile surface with sterile straw/pen tube or whatever you use. Basically using all the standard precautions you should be using when trying to reduce harm, aside from just not doing the dang stuff.
 
Thats quite a good question!lol
obviously heroin is very risky anyway...but insufflation is always going to be safer then i.v regardless of the make up of your heroin (cuts).
Injection carries alot of risk regardless of quality or filtration.
Obviously, micron filtering is fantastic and should be practiced by all i.v drug users but it doesnt keep you safe from a number of different complications that can arise from needle use (just have a look in the 'case studies' sticky thread for futher proof).
Experienced users generally dont choose the needle for fun, its an action usually stemming from tolerance and its effect on daily cost of maintaining a habit.
 
I think IV use is the safest, no nasal drop which can cause throat irritation, vomiting, it can cause septum deterioration, eat away at your nasal cartilage, lots of yucky stuff .... I've been an IV user for quite sometime and if you are clean n sterile , using clean and NEW needles EACH time you are ALOT less likely to damage your body. Be sure you educate yourself on injection sites n techniques, usually your local needle exchange can offer information and sometimes even classes on the subject . Happy poking :)
 
I think you both insinuate a certain person is considering the IV ROA. But certain people would never be able to get over the fear of endocarditis to try that route.
 
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