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Will Lorazepam help ease WD symptoms?

VaderisBaddAss

VaderisBaddAss

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So here's the short story. I'm on 30mg OxyContin 2xp/d, and 4mg of Dilaudid every 6 hrs as needed for b/t. Recently I've been experiencing more pain than normal, (I had an enlarged spleen and had a liver transplant a year ago) so I've been taking a little more, like one more Dilaudid, and maybe another Oxy (different days of course) and only when needed. But now I'm out and my appointment isn't until Wed, mid afternoon. I've been on some sort of pain med or another fora steady 5 years about (yea, it sucks, I just wish I didn't have to take the at all!)!

Anyway, I wasn't sure when exactly withdrawals would kick in. I'm assuming they will, but I've never experienced them before. I was wondering if anyone knows whether Lorazepam, 1mg (I typically take two at a time) would help subside the withdrawal symptoms. (I am also legally prescribed these). I know it won't stop them, but I was looking if anyone has any experience with that. And whether anyone has any suggestions that will help my symptoms, assuming they come, because I am expecting them. Hopefully, you can offer something I can get legally in the US, I wouldn't know how to get anything else any other way.

Thank you for any suggestions in advance! I really appreciate them!!
-Vader %)
 
This thread should be able to answer your questions.

Yes, lorazepam will help, but make sure that you don't end up running out of them too because benzo withdrawal is more dangerous than opiate withdrawal.
An antihistamine should help with sleep. Some say that diphenhydramine can make the RLS from opiate withdrawals worse, so doxylamine (brand name Unisom) is probably your best bet for an OTC sleep aid.
Loperaminde (brand name Imodium) will help keep your stomach and bowels from getting too bad. I buy the generic and start out with 8-10mg.

All of that, plus a lot more is found in the link at the top of my post.
 
Thanks guys! So it sounds like I can use the lorazepam, maybe 3 or 4 (I have plenty..) and I also have zofran for stomach nausea so that will help!

Hot packs, ibuprofen and stretching for the legs and cramps

Now I have benedryl, but could I also use ambien to go to sleep if it gets real bad?

Thanks so much for all your help! Tommy I skimmed the first couple of Posts in the thread, and I'll definitely read the rest tomorrow! Thanks so much! <3
 
Zofran, Ambien, Ativan, ibuprofen, you sound pretty set. Only other suggestion would be loperamide, it is OTC marketed as Immodium. It will greatly help ease the physical wd symptoms. If you aren't going to be without opiates for very long, don't be afraid to really use the Ativan and Ambien. Just be careful not to take too much and drive or something. In regard to the Benadryl, I wouldn't use it, it could cause more restlessness, and you have a benzo, and a z-drug to keep you sedated.
 
Yea, it will help.. It's not a cure all but it will help your legs feel better... If you could get some promethazine it would help.. Get some ibuprofen and some immodium! Good luck!

Nevermind the promethazine.. you have zofran.
 
Hey v and badass I have tried to pm both of you but talks inboxes r full....

Badass I have been trying to see how you have been doing. I'm sorry to hear you have to go through this. Hugs
Add use the zofran for nausea

Immodium for stomach issues

Lots of warm baths

Melatonin and valerian root for sleep - I wouldn't advise ambien as it made my sleep worse- terrible dreams and only puts you to sleep and half-life is only a few hours if any sleep Mede I suggest these or lunesta as it is anlonger acting sleep aid.


Try to get a heating pad for your body legs and a massagers for your legs for when you kick

The lorazepam will help ease the mental anixiety

Definitely try to take as many long hot baths as you can they helpnwonders.
 
You can get througgh this, the first seven days will be bad but after that you will gradually feel a lot better get well soon hugs:)
 
Alex000 said:
Zofran, Ambien, Ativan, ibuprofen, you sound pretty set. Only other suggestion would be loperamide, it is OTC marketed as Immodium. It will greatly help ease the physical wd symptoms. If you aren't going to be without opiates for very long, don't be afraid to really use the Ativan and Ambien. Just be careful not to take too much and drive or something. In regard to the Benadryl, I wouldn't use it, it could cause more restlessness, and you have a benzo, and a z-drug to keep you sedated.
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Thanks Alex, yea, day one and I've been fine until now where I'm getting bad restless leg. I've got a hot pack all over it, and took 4 lorazepam. That's been about it. Oh and Tylenol for back pain :/ I should be like this for a while and hopefully stay like this in the morning, then maybe I can either find something to help, or get lucky and remain with the same symptoms! :/ all I need not is to survive tomorrow, then my appt is on wed, and I'll be good. Ugh, worst thing ever! Thanks for all the help!!! <3
 
And kayla, my mailbox shouldn't be full. I only have like 10 pms in there.. And I'm not gonna be like the for a week, def not! My appt is we'd, so hopefully it wont get too bad. I'll have to pick up some of the Imodium for my stomach, and some ibuprofen, cause I'm not sure how much I have lft.. Could 800 mg Motrins help?
 
Thanks it's ruff, trying to even get one fn pill just to avoid WD?ppl are like nope can't help.. :/ saddens me bc I'd help them out
 
I can't say this enough, buy Kratom online and make tea. When wd starts being bad drink up to 4 capsules in the tea. Even if you notice you are running low on meds this will help you stretch it out. It is not illegal and good to have in your pantry if this happens to you again, hope not. Hang in there. Try and watch funny stuff to get your mind off of it. Don't stress about sleep your body will crash when it needs to. Good luck, your relief is only a day away. :-)
 
So I caved, and I found two 8mg suboxones. (this is two days since my last oxy dose) so I'm good to take one. My question is, after I took it, I'm still having that tingling leg feeling, can I just take the other 8mg to get rid of it? Cause then I should be fine to take my normal prescription tomorrows only around 4 or 4 pm? Like 24 hrs later? Or would taking two 8mg be too much?
 
Wow, stop while ahead! 8 mg of sub will take up to 96 hrs to go down to a level where you will feel anything from your meds. It has a 30+ hr half life. Meaning after 4 days you will still have a 1 mg dose in your system and it will still block opiates. If you start increasing the dose to feel the high from oxy or whatever it is you get younrun a risk of od. Sorry, bad idea to take that much if you knew your script was coming. Something else, if they see there is no opiate in our system they will cut your meds as well. New law is being passed forcing docs to test each and every visit. Of no opiates or not the amount you should have, they will assume you either sell or take too much. Neither a good option for you. Best of luck tomorrow.
 
8mgs was overkill, so definitely don't take another. Next time just take 1mg, or 2mg tops. That way it will take the sick away, and won't block other opiates for as long as higher doses. You should hold off on dosing your oxy until you feel sick again, which given the dose of suboxone you took, should take at least 2 days.

A single 8mg suboxone pill always blocked other opiates from working for me for 2 days, and another 2 days after that until they hit me like normal. You will be wasting the oxy if you take it tomorrow, and with each day after that you would be able to feel them a bit more, but anytime I didn't wait at least 2 days I regretted not waiting longer since I wasted it.

The mean half-life of the bupe in suboxone is 37 hours, so that's why it takes a while for it to get out of your system.
 
Thanks Alma, I didn't take it, I figured I should just put it aside in case this happens again. Tht new law your talking about is it for just pain clinics? I don't go to a pain clinic, I'm seen at a specialist post-surgical. And I had my blood test yesterday when I still had opiates in my system so I'm not too worried. I typically don't ever, actually this was my first time ever taking something that wasn't prescribed.

I also don't take my meds for the high, maybe once in a great while when I'm having a shitty day, I'll crush it or put the OC in some root beer, but I take them for pain relief, I have legit pain. And this is was the first time I've run out of meds too early. Hopefully it won't happen again.

@ Tommy, thank you, I won't take anything tomorrow, I that's why I double checked on here, I got bad info from someone, so I definitely double checked, good thing. So I only took the 8, which was too much I guess, I know now.. But I won't take anything else til Friday unless I absolutely have to. Thank you everyone for the feedback!!
 
Alma said:
Wow, stop while ahead! 8 mg of sub will take up to 96 hrs to go down to a level where you will feel anything from your meds. It has a 30+ hr half life. Meaning after 4 days you will still have a 1 mg dose in your system and it will still block opiates. If you start increasing the dose to feel the high from oxy or whatever it is you get younrun a risk of od. Sorry, bad idea to take that much if you knew your script was coming. Something else, if they see there is no opiate in our system they will cut your meds as well. New law is being passed forcing docs to test each and every visit. Of no opiates or not the amount you should have, they will assume you either sell or take too much. Neither a good option for you. Best of luck tomorrow.
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Please post your source... I'm not calling bullshit just wondering if there is a reliable source for this information or you heard it through AFOAF/ some other nonofficial source.
 
ihatepipes said:
Please post your source... I'm not calling bullshit just wondering if there is a reliable source for this information or you heard it through AFOAF/ some other nonofficial source.
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I'm really questioning this too, I haven't found anything on the subject and have been googling different things for two days. Checking diff sites etc.. It also doesn't make any sense bc most prescriptions for opiates, at least ones for breakthrough pain are "take as needed" so having less opiates in your system wouldn't mean you are selling, it just means your not having pain or not taking as much. I know my doc says only take when you have to so he'd be happy to see less in my system, not worried I'm selling..

Edit: [2/2/12] I went to my Dr appt and I got two new scripts and he never said anything about blood tests, except for my usual levels I get checked post surgery, he pushed those to once a month instead of bi-weekly.
 
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