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2c-d 150mg

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I'm making a new thread because I may not get a reply as readily as I would like in the big and dandy.

I've taken 2C-D up 80mg and feel like I could go alot further with it. It takes alot each way to change the effect level I've found, so I'm considering 150mg. I read in pihkal that it's been done and was very colourful and enjoyable.

Opinions?
 
Good luck with that! I'd imagine it will be pretty intense. If you do go through with it, please write a trip report, I'd be very interested in reading it.
 
Seems like if you have experience building up the dose it's fine, the compound seems benign to me apart from a peculiar form of potential stimulation. Nothing too worrying though but regarding combinations I would always keep this in mind. This is somewhat irrelevant to your case of course.

I never found 2C-D to have much worth but I also believe people who say it is undervalued because dosages are insufficiently high. It just sounds very high because we are used to doses more in the range of say 2C-B. But take 2C-N and mescaline, those too have ridiculously high doses needed for a full experience. In the tryptamine department something to this effect could be said about DiPT and others, though that has it's own unique auditive effects in the lower dosage ranges.

It's certainly encouraged that you write a report on it when or if you try this.

I won't give this thread a very long time to live though, it will be merged into the Big & Dandy Thread sooner or later. I appreciate the idea that you would like this to get extra attention but it would become an unregulated place if everyone did the same, alright?
 
maybe try increasing your dose by 50% instead of by almost 100%. Going from 80 to 150 in one leap could be more than you bargained for. Try 115 or 120 before going for 150.
 
That is not always true, some drugs show more like a ceiling effect and others work pretty linearly. I don't think that 2C-D is a compound that has a steep rise like say 2C-P does, but I am also not saying that it has a linear curve. And I am definitely not saying that chemical wizard's suggestion is a bad one, that is not my point at all. His suggestion is great.
 
I'm pretty much hoping to overload my programing and my identity with a heavy psychedelic experience. But I think the fact that there are little reports of people trying these high doses of 2cd may not help me settle into the trip, as I'll be so aware that I'm exploring new depths.

Maybe I should go for a high dose of something with a much larger experience base like magic mushrooms or lsd. The problem is I can't get hold of either at the moment and I'm feeling it's the time for a full-on psychedelic ride.

I also have roughly 150mg of 2cd left and limited funds for much more or anything else, which is why I can't test dose say building 20mgs extra each time.

I think it would be safe. But the fact that almost noone else has done it has potential edginess written all over it.
 
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If you want a full, profound overwhelming psychedelic experience and don't have access to illegals I would suggest a large dose of 2c-e is much more suited toward your purpose than 2c-d. 35mg of 2c-e is more than enough to get obliterated and possibly experience ego death.
 
It's always interesting to be a pioneer, and I can see the appeal of taking a somewhat heroic dose, but it just seems a bit too eager for my tastes to do a 80 -> 150 mg jump. I agree with Chemical Wizard, try a dose between 80 and 150 mg first and see how it works for you. There is no reason to rush into high doses.
 
Mushrooms and LSD do have a long history of use but this does not give any guarantees other than that they are physically benign. Don't underestimate what an overwhelming trip on mushrooms or LSD can do psychologically, it can leave quite the impression in good ways and bad. I am not advocating that you might just as well use compounds with less history of use but 2C-D is not extremely experimental and as far as 2C-X compounds go I would worry more about a compound like a 2C-T-X that can be erratic or 2C-N that seems to be able to do unpredictable and weird things rather than 2C-C or 2C-D which are quite on the mild side in themselves.

Of course this mildness is because of the dosage range, again we arrive at the same point of discussion, but it is also indicative of a good therapeutic index if you ask me. By this I mean if you take relatively easy steps and using increments of no more than 50% as is suggested rather than doubling, that seems to me to be okay. I don't think you have to worry about thing changing drastically at for example 134 mg all of a sudden. Now I am making it a bit extreme but hopefully you get what I'm saying. Overdoses with 2C-B or 2C-C have been documented that are like 10 times a fully active dose. Granted 2C-D is not a halogenated 2C-X but still I would say if you dose a little too high on it I thing your biggest issue will be a very serious and profound experience rather than health threatening effects.

But, better safe than sorry and I'd also keep an eye out for that stimulating aspect. Other than that, it's basically your own choice in the end and no one here is going to make it for you. godspeed (no pun intended).
 
I don't have accurate enough scales for 2ce. That's why I went for 2cd in the first place because I know it's safe.

Another aspect of 2ce I'm wary of is how long it lasts. 2cd is so short lived that at high doses, even if it did go topsy turvy I'd be back down with in five hours.
 
There's always liquid measurement if you don't have scales. As long as you know the amount you have to begin with you can dose accurately.

Liquid Measurement Thread

That said though, 2C-E and 2C-D are quite different drugs. I wouldn't agree that to go further you should just pick up a more potent psychedelic - otherwise everyone would stick to high dose LSD or DMT - if you're looking to enjoy higher doses of 2C-D, go for that, if you want something different - try something new :)
 
Please get decent scales, I understand that you can usually get away with that margin of error with 2C-D and 2C-C for example but really 0.001 g scales can be very cheap, just check out Big & Dandy scale thread. It's just not a good idea in general to use inaccurate scales.
On the other hand, until you have placed an order for some good scales and waited for their delivery time (can be long with vendors such as deal extreme) you could look into volumetric measurement. This is an easy way to use liquid solutions of drugs and proper math to improve on the accuracy of your scales. You do this by weighing a larger quantity then dissolving this into a known volume of say vodka, then using the concentration you can calculate your dose. If you are not that certain of your skills handling, understanding and calculating these things just wait for the scales though.

Regarding the duration of a trip: my opinion is that it takes some backbone and commitment to ride out a trip even if it can be a bit more than you bargained for. Instead what you should learn from this is to avoid that in the first place by increasing your doses slowly, using one of several ways to measure your dose accurately and then accepting whatever comes your way. God knows I've been through tough shit in trips more times than I can count but I still think it's the most fair attitude. I don't buy into the idea that as long as the duration of an experience is short it can't be that bad. DMT lasts only a very short while but it can be extremely hard to bear. Though it is so rewarding if you do. It's always quality that counts over quantity.
 
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There's always liquid measurement if you don't have scales. As long as you know the amount you have to begin with you can dose accurately.

Liquid Measurement Thread

That said though, 2C-E and 2C-D are quite different drugs. I wouldn't agree that to go further you should just pick up a more potent psychedelic - otherwise everyone would stick to high dose LSD or DMT - if you're looking to enjoy higher doses of 2C-D, go for that, if you want something different - try something new :)
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Well JG, I'm just reading his two posts in this thread

I'm pretty much hoping to overload my programing and my identity with a heavy psychedelic experience. But I think the fact that there are little reports of people trying these high doses of 2cd may not help me settle into the trip, as I'll be so aware that I'm exploring new depths.
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This makes it sound like he wants a very heavy and profound, therapeutic psychedelic experience, the type that 2c-e, LSD and mushrooms are wont to produce. 2c-d is not exactly known for this kind of experience.

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Maybe I should go for a high dose of something with a much larger experience base like magic mushrooms or lsd. The problem is I can't get hold of either at the moment and I'm feeling it's the time for a full-on psychedelic ride.
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He even says that LSD and mushrooms interest him for this purpose but that they aren't available. It sounds like he's trying to get the type of trip that 2c-e, LSD and mushrooms produce out of 2c-d because it's available to him. I suggested 2c-e because it's generally available.

And to the OP - it is very easy to volumetrically dose something like 2c-e, although I would still buy a milligram scale, even for a substance like 2c-d! They cost about $17 so I don't see the harm.
 
@ OP

do you tried plugging the 2c-d?

plugging is much more effectiv with little material compared to oral.
20mg in 2ml warm water/syringe was quite a ride for me. never tried higher dosages tough
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If you want to re-program your identity a bit, I can't recommend DOC highly enough. 2 trips on this compound, in a rave environment has enabled me to reduce my social anxiety by 60-70%. Its relatively easygoing, if not a little manic, but very easy on the body. No psychedelic drug has had the same level of impact (positively) in my life as DOC, that molecule is an absolute stroke of genius!
 
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@ OP

do you tried plugging the 2c-d?

plugging is much more effectiv with little material compared to oral.
20mg in 2ml warm water/syringe was quite a ride for me. never tried higher dosages tough
:)
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Pluggin 2C-D is INTENSE. It's a really good way to take 2C-D me thinks. Seems like it's almost three times as potent as orally, it's really quite a ride. I think anything over 25 mgs plugged is a freight train of psychedelia, but with a cozy duration of 3.5-4 hours. Pluggin cuts the come up time down to 20-30 minutes for me
 
i agree with the idea of going slowly up with the doses. always seemed like the most sensible idea with chemicals. doubling the dose jsut doesnt strike me as a good idea in any scenario, but thats just me, im always a scaredy cat
 
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