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" an overwhelming majority of tested LSD samples were negative for the chemical. "

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reagent tests at festivals portray misrepresentations

so there is this website that depicts that they investigated a large variety of festivals in the USA with a reagent and found some misrepresentations

http://www.bunkpolice.org/lsd-identification-guide/

i wonder if more liberal, open-minded kinds of countries and areas are more likely to have lower rates of misrepresentation ?

i suppose if you want cold first-hand data, you can purchase a reagent and then you have your own results and that's that - they are inexpensive as fuck
http://www.eztest.com

what do you thinks ?
 
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What are some differences that stand out between LSD and 25(x)-NBOMEs? The effect's lists on erowid for both of them are very similar.
 
Thanks for posting this. So much for those stuck on denialism about "dirty acid" and yucky side effects, who are obsessed with telling us its all our heads and 99.99% of stuff is nothing other than pure proper LSD, who are either egotists trying to prove they are smarter than everyone else, or are working at brainwashing the market on behalf of the bunk-distributors.
 
Bkhaze said:
What are some differences that stand out between LSD and 25(x)-NBOMEs? The effect's lists on erowid for both of them are very similar.
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Tryptamines psychedelic experiences are use to be warmer and with null calm effect typical on phenetylamines.

Apart from that. LSD is very known because its exclusive visuals, comfortable afterglow and cleaness. I personally had the most detailed vision of a perfect art painting with my closed eyes. I am not a big fan of arts, so there is a small chance of being something from my unconscious mind, but of course, it can be. Or it can be that my brain was working in a different level and was result of my creative graphic imagination... But it was the most wonderful CEV I ever had at the moment.

From my perspective, CEVs of most RCs, specifically the phenethylamines, and DOx are more poor. But of course, every mind is different and can lead into very different and subjective experiences.
 
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I dont see a good LSD blotter in Europe from 2 years ago, now I think they are back again, as one very trustworthiness friend told me.

LSD manufacturing in the world is very limited to some (in my opinion less than 20 different labs in the black market, maybe the half!) chemists, with the main reason of its complex synthesis and difficulty to produce or synth precursors. In the other hand, the other chemicals can be more easily synthetized and their dosage ranges allows to the black market manufacturers to continue using the popular blotter format.

I will let you know about this blotters ;)
 
Are the 25x nbomes known to cause more side effects? Like stomache cramps for example, some doses caused way more stomache cramps unlike different doses that caused no cramps at all. All doses were supposed to be LSD, but it is possible that they were something other then LSD.
 
25x-Nbome is inactive when swallowed. So that could be a way to make sure you don't get that chemical
 
Mitchi said:
25x-Nbome is inactive when swallowed. So that could be a way to make sure you don't get that chemical
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Which criteria are you using for saying that? Can you be specific please? I think you are completely wrong.

They are active orally, but it seems to not keep the typical oral/nasal dosage ratio present in other substances. At least I saw some reports of NBOME-Allyescaline orally.

In the same way, a blotter can be taken sublingually.
 
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Bkhaze said:
What are some differences that stand out between LSD and 25(x)-NBOMEs? The effect's lists on erowid for both of them are very similar.
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Don't 25(x)-NBOMEs last longer? Or am I making that up?

*Edit: think I'm making that up.
 
I've definitely had blotters that I was suspect of not being LSD. There's ones that go around the local doofs, I have heard from sources that it's LSA and it is always noticeably different from LSD, but sort of the same.

Lately though in Aus, there's been a lot of good quality clean LSD, so I'm not complaining.
 
I know in my area, majority of the "acid" going around was DOC. Finally heard one of the main sources admit it to someone. We all knew it was fake, just didn't know which fake it was.

When I did finally find my source, I was so happy. They used Ehrlich Reagent to confirm authentic stuff.
 
DwayneHoover said:
Thanks for posting this. So much for those stuck on denialism about "dirty acid" and yucky side effects, who are obsessed with telling us its all our heads and 99.99% of stuff is nothing other than pure proper LSD, who are either egotists trying to prove they are smarter than everyone else, or are working at brainwashing the market on behalf of the bunk-distributors.
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What is the relationship of these findings with "dirty acid"? These are substitutions sold as LSD, not syntheses of LSD with a high degree of unintended byproducts. 5-MeO-aMT/DOx/nbmoe sold as LSD is no more dirty acid than linoleum is dirty carpet. "Dirty" is not a synonym of "fake".
 
^ True... I'm sort of guessing that people might get blotter sold to them as LSD and notice a different set physical effects, perhaps stronger somatic effects than what they felt before before with some very properly made LSD, and call it "dirty," but you are correct... alot of people LOOOVE DOC and even prefer it to LSD and would not even think of calling it "dirty", at least not if they knew that's what they were taking. But if they did NOT know it was a substitution, they may well call it "dirty acid," noticing the different feel, perhaps not even intending it as a pejorative.
 
This is very interesting info, makes you wonder is some people that have only been taking lsd in the last few years have actually EVER had the real thing.

Luckily I am far too old these days to go to doofs and festivals and on the rare occaision that I have done LSD in the last few years I have got it from some old hippy friends who have had it in liquid form in bottles that they have had for many years, I haven't noticed any difference in the experiences I have had recently from the ones I had 20 years ago.
 
Let's make sure this doesn't deteriorate into ID discussion. Also, this could be seen as availability discussion, so don't be surprised if this gets closed. I'm going to leave it open for now though, just to see where this goes.

Is it not worth mentioning the fact that a majority of the people who got their LSD tested were people who had doubts about the authenticity of their LSD? While those who already had a trusted source or who were sure what they were getting was LSD would not have had it tested - resulting in a far higher percentage of the tested substances being something other than LSD than the actual percentage across all the blotter being sold at any of these events.
 
This appears to be research done exclusively on bits of paper that people have bought from complete strangers at music festivals. Do the results surprise anyone?

I mean, if you had bunk blotter paper would you actually sell it to anyone you knew? Knowing that the day after they'll be knocking on your door? Or would you go the nearest music festival and off-load it to a bunch of 15 year olds who were walking past drunk out of their minds?

OBVIOUSLY, there's gonna be fucking bunk drugs at music festivals. A LOT OF BUNK DRUGS

What relevance has this to the availability of genuine LSD?

I mean it's like saying "A kid at a festival rolled up a bit of his own excrement, mixed it with mud and then called it "hashish" and sold it to a drunk 15 year old so does that mean there's no real hashish around anymore?". Obviously, it doesn't.
 
Ismene said:
OBVIOUSLY, there's gonna be fucking bunk drugs at music festivals. A LOT OF BUNK DRUGS

What relevance has this to the availability of genuine LSD?
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Quite a bit actually. Definition of availability:

a·vail·a·ble ( -v l -b l). adj. 1. Present and ready for use; at hand; accessible:
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Genuine LSD is -not- accessible to many people who are looking for it.

However, availability is not allowed to be discussed here, so that's not relevant to the discussion anyways.
 
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