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I screwed big time... Psycosis

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Started in a very naive and relaxed way. DOsed 20mg 4-aco-dmt , and then tail end decided to do methylone, then also thought was good ideia do a low amount of MXE (about 20mg) without realizing what the hell was getting into... I pretty much got into autopilot for 6H, doingrepetive tasks in facebook, that were just basicaly deleting and adding pics to my profile (ego boosting), totally obsessed with my pics, and couldnt stop it.. I wake up from this "trance" when I realized the gram of Methylone was gone (and the only one thank god), and about 150mg of 4acodmt too . I have no ideia how this train wrenck happened so fast and without me noticing anything, it then got worst..... Coming down from methylone made me feel uncontrollably paranoid, about me, others, my job, and anything, almost passing to the other side of believing in my crazy mind. Actually never been so close to do real shit and regreet later (calling my parents, and so on). I guess its time to say good bye to drugs for some time. Reality hits you hard.

Peace.

Fly
 
That's really not a very surprising outcome. People need to be far more careful with RC's.

You should be thankful it wasn't worse.
 
So i don't get it, you took the rest of the methylone and 4-aco-dmt? Also what does this have to do with psychosis? Not meaning to be a dick just think you could add a little to the post.
 
so the psychosis was just you being entranced to facebook? or am i missing something?
 
Lol... Dude trust me it can be alot worse. Never go to a party with a gram of 2c-i and a tenstrip of acid unless you're prepared for the absolute BALLS. I once masturbated in front of and pissed on a crowd of people at a party, and choked out a random ptot. Seriously don't worry about it just exercise some fucking self control. At least you weren't in public lol..... That's not to say continue throwing yourself into uncharted territory with wreckless abandon like it seems you did, a good break from entheogens is probably the best medicine right now. Learn your lesson... Use caution next time. I've mixed psychedelics twice, LSD+2c-i; totally unplanned complete disaster in public.. LSD+2c-b; absolutely euphoric sensual erotic experience in a perfectly private setting. Needless to say my one public flipping experience was my learning curve haha....

Tread lightly and use caution my friend. When your inhibitions are lowered that huge dose doesn't seem so huge huh? lolol.. I didn't think twice about downing 20mgs 2c-i in public when I was frying absolute balls at a party. Shit gets hectic..
 
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OTGee said:
So i don't get it, you took the rest of the methylone and 4-aco-dmt? Also what does this have to do with psychosis? Not meaning to be a dick just think you could add a little to the post.
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Sorry, im still feeling pretty much fucked up. I just wanted to tell people about this combo Methylone + MXE + 4-ACO-DMT being potentially very dangerous.
This gave me temporary insanity, were kept redosing both without counting the total already done, totally my racional brain was disconnected, and them i noticed what was going on when wanted to dose more, and the 2 zippy bags were empty.


Jakeperson, you are totally right. Im fucking idiot, just hope with this can warn other people that tje illusion of having drugs easily delivered at your door feels like you can do anything, and couldnt be more deceiving.


Kingme, about the facebook got into obssessive-compulsive behaviour of finding the ultimate photos, adding, and removinthe same photos, over, and ,over, and over again, countless times, like a tape recorder com loop... I mentally noticed was aware what i was doing, but couldnt stop, like my racional side of brain was shut down.


Thanks for reading my thread. Im going to try to rest a bit.
 
Like others said, could be worse brother...:-) the fact that you're digesting a lesson from it gives it a valid function as a human exp...can't ask for much more than lucid integration eh?

Just take your break, and maybe be a lil more cautious with these new chems especially. A few people who have been addicted to mxe alone report a unique and hard-to-notice-when its upon-you ego-boosing quality on this board. Perhaps that quality shone, and then the combo of entactogen(methylones in this class right...? Never read much about it) plus tryptamine just left your ego in some weird both inactive and highly active state lol, if thats possible. Almost like an ego-death (a term...! I don't wanna argue about semantics) which provided the 'loss of cntrol' or the inability to reference your exps as'yours', combined with the ego-inflatory qualities of the mxe, which both combined with the excitement and urge to 'touch the world's ( a la methylone) Result = Highly disassociated And Ego-dead state in which the not-consciously-driven body sought to manicly refine it's 'social image'.

Doin all the extra drugs...that's a lil scary, if it was this combo in particular that was conducive to this, that is something to be largely wary of. Very datura-esque sounding....always been one of the more intmidating possibilities of deleriants, the accidental non-conscious consumption of more deleriants...! There's a good few erowid reports of that happening. T+1 forgot I drank datura tea so i decided 'hey, today would be a good day to try datura...!' T+2.5 talking to people who aren't there, though having forgotten i ate datura, figured that today would be a good day to try it.....8( crazy shit man. Obviously a lot safer than anti-cholinergic over dose...but still for deleriant-like tendencies to have no 'say' in your actions to come out of a non-deleriant psychedelic combo...eek.

Combos are generally more 'crazy' for me and much less Integratable. Low doses of 2 could be enlightening maybe, but from my exp with the traditional psychs combos are one hell of a roller-coaster ride with insane visuals...but the navigation and intelligable insights are less apparent.

You'll be fine, us psychnauts are troopers :-)
Just take a few calm meditative days to make sense of it all
 
Hasn't it been stated before that doing MXE in combination with stimulants and stimulant like things such as MDMA and M1 is dangerous anyways ????
 
It happens to everyone imo if you dab into psychedelics enough doesnt have to be just with rcs either. Best thing to do is put that experience aside and concentrate on living life happily unless you have physical problems from the experience then id get that checked out right away. Iv had this happen to me a hand full of times just stay postive and productive youll be fine. My main problem when this happens I make everything wayy more critical and serious than it really is for no reason, I over think everything. Now iv learned how to control myself in that state, it maybe damn near impossible but its do able. iv also learned from these experiences, they can be bad but theyll make you stronger in the end imo, thats if your using them responsibly. Also I always shut my phone off in these states climb into a bed and just chill out with some blankets and pillows so I dont do anything im really going to regret

Take it easy everyone!
 
fly- said:
Jakeperson, you are totally right. Im fucking idiot, just hope with this can warn other people that tje illusion of having drugs easily delivered at your door feels like you can do anything, and couldnt be more deceiving.
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Every one fucks up every once in a while. I'm glad you put the warning out, there are a lot of people combining RC's recklessly at the moment. Although it is worse on a certain other forum.


Chemical Wizard said:
Hasn't it been stated before that doing MXE in combination with stimulants and stimulant like things such as MDMA and M1 is dangerous anyways ????
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Yes, I believe it has. I have seen 1 or 2 bad MDMA + MXE combos but most have turned out okay where as I think nearly all Methylone + MXE combos have been bad experiences for whomever. MDMA seems to be somewhat safer but who knows really, coulda just been luck of the draw.
 
Stims + MXE = BAD NEWS!!

Spread the word.

I agree with above, sorry don't mean to belittle, but, "getting obsessed by fiddling with Facbook page" just doesn't seem that terrible, considering how some of my bad trips have gone, oh help me Jesus ;)

Who knows, though, inside your head you might have been battling with demons by shuffling the Timeline graphics and options (try "Featuring" a story, btw), lol!

My impression is that MXE's complex blend of receptor ticklings STRONGLY stimulates compulsive redosing type behavior, which on its own doesn't seem that horrific, just excessive, but throw other drugs into the mix which interact in unknowable ways and you start fiending THEM along wiht the MXE, and a trainwreck becomes likelier than not.

Danger Will Robinson! (Lost In Space was just on MeTv, the classic "Rickety Alien Matter Transfer Device Sends Will Back To Earth" episode... kinda MXE-like ironically).
 
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I've dosed 4-AcO-DMT + bk-MDMA several times with great effects. I'm suspecting it's the MXE that messed things up. Although I've combo's MXE with other RC's, I've always taken the MXE several hours after the original chem, while I'm starting to come down a bit.

After weighing out your original doses, it can be helpful to put away your remaining drugs in order to lessen the chance of redosing. 150 mg of 4-AcO-DMT is a lot!
 
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