Stretchmarks and hair loss from AAS use?

[ongos]

regarding stretchmarks; I already have them all over my chest due to the bench press workout for over 10 years without the use of "gear". I'm only 28. Anyway, someone told me, to get rid of stretchmarks was to use Vitamin E gel tabs, puncture it and rub the contents all over my stretchmarks. It will be absorbed. Seems messy. What's another alternative? Lotions (Nivea is expensive)? I asked about soap with Vitamin E, but I was told it's not that effective. My soap is anti bacterial with aloe vera (Safeguard). Not sure if I should go the "medical soap" route. There is also Actovegin. I've seen it in cream version, supposed to be over the counter, non prescription. While I've read about Actovegin as a performance enhancing drug, not sure how, but its cream or ointment version according to description is helpful for: skin graftings, burns, scalds, abrasions, wound-healing impairment, and radiation-induced skin and mucous membrane lesions (prophylaxis and therapy).

regarding hair loss; I have thick hair, not sure if I should worry. I'm just preventing. There's no male pattern baldness issues with my family. I've seen there's regular shampoo section and "medicated shampoo" section at Walmart. Should I consider a hair thickening shampoo if it exist?

These are the drugs I will be using on cycle and its supposed level of potential hair loss due to use:

Testosterone Enanthate - likely possible
Anavar - low possibility
HGH Kigtropin - no, might make hair thicker (could HGH use counter hair loss from Testosterone Enanthate use?)

Not sure if any hair loss will occur as I am thick-haired and this will be my first cycle. I'm just cautious and preventive.

 

[-Guido-]

To get rid and prevent stretch marks all you need is cocoa butter. That shit works like magic. Apply it before bed every night.

If you are worried about hair loss I suggest Nizoral Shampoo. It contains Ketoconazole and many steroid users swear by it helping prevent hairloss.

If you are really worried, use Nizoral Shampoo and Finasteride at 1mg. Finasteride stops the conversion of Testosterone to DHT, which causes hairloss.

The thing is everyone is different with steroids and hairloss. Some people start shedding hair from using Testosterone while other can use gram after gram and have a full head of hair but if they pop 50mg of Anavar or Stanazol they start shedding like a cat.

Using the preventative measures I suggested combined with the fact you have no history of hairloss in your family means you will be fine.

HGH will cause rapid growth of hair and fingernails. Be prepared to clip your nails often, shave, and go to the barbershop to get your hair cut.

 

[auhsoJ]

To get rid and prevent stretch marks all you need is cocoa butter. That shit works like magic. Apply it before bed every night.

If you are worried about hair loss I suggest Nizoral Shampoo. It contains Ketoconazole and many steroid users swear by it helping prevent hairloss.

If you are really worried, use Nizoral Shampoo and Finasteride at 1mg. Finasteride stops the conversion of Testosterone to DHT, which causes hairloss.

The thing is everyone is different with steroids and hairloss. Some people start shedding hair from using Testosterone while other can use gram after gram and have a full head of hair but if they pop 50mg of Anavar or Stanazol they start shedding like a cat.

Using the preventative measures I suggested combined with the fact you have no history of hairloss in your family means you will be fine.

HGH will cause rapid growth of hair and fingernails. Be prepared to clip your nails often, shave, and go to the barbershop to get your hair cut.

The only problem with this advice is that Nizoral has been off the shelves since June. The only other shampoos that contain Ketoconazole:

http://www.amazon.com/Regenepure-DR...SDOA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1326391517&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/-Enhanced-Ket...4T4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326391517&sr=8-1

I honestly don't know how effective Ketoconazole is at preventing hairloss. I've used it in the past but I couldn't tell you the difference from when I didn't and did use it.

 

[-Guido-]

The only problem with this advice is that Nizoral has been off the shelves since June. The only other shampoos that contain Ketoconazole:

http://www.amazon.com/Regenepure-DR...SDOA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1326391517&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/-Enhanced-Ket...4T4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326391517&sr=8-1

I honestly don't know how effective Ketoconazole is at preventing hairloss. I've used it in the past but I couldn't tell you the difference from when I didn't and did use it.

I'm not sure either but a lot of bodybuilders and juiceheads swear by it. It's better than nothing I suppose. Finasteride is probably the definitive measure to use if you are worried about it.

 

[Renz Envy]

Would you say finasteride is guaranteed to work?

My grandfather on my mother's side went bald at 25. He is the main reason I have stayed natural for so long.

 

[-Guido-]

Would you say finasteride is guaranteed to work?

My grandfather on my mother's side went bald at 25. He is the main reason I have stayed natural for so long.

Yes, it will stop hairloss but there are a shitload of side effects that scare me...

http://propeciahelp.com/

I haven't lost my hair yet but I happen to be using a shitload of Tren which is very androgenic and most of the oral steroids I use are DHT based so I have been looking into things.

Nizoral is what I want to get, or whatever shampoo contains Ketoconazole since so many bodybuilders and juiceheads swear by it. I know that Saw Palmetto is natural DHT inhibitor and I originally took it to help with my prostate. When I started running Testosterone with orals like Methylmasteron and Methyl-1-Testosterone, no joke, I couldn't piss. Like it was a trickle. Pissing was a task. It literally took me 15 minutes to empty my bladder. It was terrible. The worst was at my Methadone Clinic when they pissed tested me... As soon as I started taking Saw Palmetto, after a few weeks I could piss like a race horse. Maybe the reason I haven't lost my hair is because of the Saw Palmetto because people also take it to prevent hair loss.

 

[ongos]

hey are you saying that the hair loss is not permanent? if this is the case then that's good news. I thought the hair loss would be permanent meaning it won't grow again once steroid use did the damage. I've always wondered how these pro bodybuilders always had their hair.

I may have seen cocoa butter as lotions and creams, is this the stuff you're talking about? I could probably find Nizoral shampoo at Walmart, but Finasteride might be prescription only.

To get rid and prevent stretch marks all you need is cocoa butter. That shit works like magic. Apply it before bed every night.

If you are worried about hair loss I suggest Nizoral Shampoo. It contains Ketoconazole and many steroid users swear by it helping prevent hairloss.

If you are really worried, use Nizoral Shampoo and Finasteride at 1mg. Finasteride stops the conversion of Testosterone to DHT, which causes hairloss.

The thing is everyone is different with steroids and hairloss. Some people start shedding hair from using Testosterone while other can use gram after gram and have a full head of hair but if they pop 50mg of Anavar or Stanazol they start shedding like a cat.

Using the preventative measures I suggested combined with the fact you have no history of hairloss in your family means you will be fine.

HGH will cause rapid growth of hair and fingernails. Be prepared to clip your nails often, shave, and go to the barbershop to get your hair cut.

 

[ongos]

usually medicated shampoos and soaps are separate from just regular shampoos and soaps section. I saw several medicated shampoos at Walmart, but could not remember if I saw Nizoral. I didn't look around. I have no hair issues but since I am getting on AAS, I may look around at Walmart again.

The only problem with this advice is that Nizoral has been off the shelves since June. The only other shampoos that contain Ketoconazole:

http://www.amazon.com/Regenepure-DR...SDOA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1326391517&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/-Enhanced-Ket...4T4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326391517&sr=8-1

I honestly don't know how effective Ketoconazole is at preventing hairloss. I've used it in the past but I couldn't tell you the difference from when I didn't and did use it.

 

[ongos]

interesting things about saw palmetto. I don't even know what it is. lol. sounds like a form of spice, am I correct? anyway, taking a pill for hair loss prevention also bothers me because I've read there is supposed to be side effects or drug interaction with whatever other drugs you're using (AAS), plus it might be "blocking" what AAS you're using is supposed to do which is build muscles. Finasteride might block Testosterone's full effect/benefit/etc. Now taking Finasteride off cycle might seem more logical I guess.

Yes, it will stop hairloss but there are a shitload of side effects that scare me...

http://propeciahelp.com/

I haven't lost my hair yet but I happen to be using a shitload of Tren which is very androgenic and most of the oral steroids I use are DHT based so I have been looking into things.

Nizoral is what I want to get, or whatever shampoo contains Ketoconazole since so many bodybuilders and juiceheads swear by it. I know that Saw Palmetto is natural DHT inhibitor and I originally took it to help with my prostate. When I started running Testosterone with orals like Methylmasteron and Methyl-1-Testosterone, no joke, I couldn't piss. Like it was a trickle. Pissing was a task. It literally took me 15 minutes to empty my bladder. It was terrible. The worst was at my Methadone Clinic when they pissed tested me... As soon as I started taking Saw Palmetto, after a few weeks I could piss like a race horse. Maybe the reason I haven't lost my hair is because of the Saw Palmetto because people also take it to prevent hair loss.

 

[-Guido-]

hey are you saying that the hair loss is not permanent? if this is the case then that's good news. I thought the hair loss would be permanent meaning it won't grow again once steroid use did the damage. I've always wondered how these pro bodybuilders always had their hair.

I may have seen cocoa butter as lotions and creams, is this the stuff you're talking about? I could probably find Nizoral shampoo at Walmart, but Finasteride might be prescription only.

Sometimes it is permanent, sometimes it's not. It's all up to genetics. Remember though that some bodybuilder use DHT inhibiting topical creams, Rogaine, Finisteride, and some even get hair transplants.

Finasteride is a prescription drug but so is HGH, Testosterone, Anastrozole, Clomid, etc... You can find it being offfered by some research chemical providers, by some steroid sources, and on some sites online that sell prescription drugs without a prescription.

The cocoa butter cream is the best stuff to use.

 

[-Guido-]

interesting things about saw palmetto. I don't even know what it is. lol. sounds like a form of spice, am I correct? anyway, taking a pill for hair loss prevention also bothers me because I've read there is supposed to be side effects or drug interaction with whatever other drugs you're using (AAS), plus it might be "blocking" what AAS you're using is supposed to do which is build muscles. Finasteride might block Testosterone's full effect/benefit/etc. Now taking Finasteride off cycle might seem more logical I guess.

Saw Palmetto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_palmetto_extract

Finasteride will not cause any interation with AAS. It only causes them to stop converting to DHT and will not cause any blocking of effects. Finisteride off cycle is pointless, the equivalent of taking penicillin when you don't have an infection. All it will do off cycle is probably lower your sex drive.

 

[ongos]

what kind of saw palmetto did you take? raw or pill form (I think I may have seen these at GNC but I have to check again).

Saw Palmetto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_palmetto_extract

Finasteride will not cause any interation with AAS. It only causes them to stop converting to DHT and will not cause any blocking of effects. Finisteride off cycle is pointless, the equivalent of taking penicillin when you don't have an infection. All it will do off cycle is probably lower your sex drive.

 

[-Guido-]

what kind of saw palmetto did you take? raw or pill form (I think I may have seen these at GNC but I have to check again).

It was in pills. It usually comes in gel capsules.

 

[ongos]

ok. I just saw some saw palmetto supplements. The milligrams per pill vary from 160mg to 970mg, not sure which should be adequate. I'm guessing the lighter dose is good enough since this is only for prevention, not full on treatment right?

Amazon sells a shampoo with Ketoconazole with other Hair Growth Performance Ingredients - Saw Palmetto Extract, Emu Oil, Biotin, Caffeine, Horsetail Extract, Hops Extract and Niacin. Sounds like a good all-in-one, instead of popping another pill with saw palmetto or finasteride.

It was in pills. It usually comes in gel capsules.

 

[-Guido-]

ok. I just saw some saw palmetto supplements. The milligrams per pill vary from 160mg to 970mg, not sure which should be adequate. I'm guessing the lighter dose is good enough since this is only for prevention, not full on treatment right?

Amazon sells a shampoo with Ketoconazole with other Hair Growth Performance Ingredients - Saw Palmetto Extract, Emu Oil, Biotin, Caffeine, Horsetail Extract, Hops Extract and Niacin. Sounds like a good all-in-one, instead of popping another pill with saw palmetto or finasteride.

Get the 970mg pills and the shampoo. You need the Saw Palmetto in your body. The shampoo is great to treat you hair directly but the shit gets washed off, you need some in the blood stream.

 

[ongos]

Bro,

I just went to Walmart and got me a Nizoral. There seem to be a difference between prescription and non prescription Nizoral, because there's a pharmacy next to where I work that I had asked for Nizoral but the pharmacist would not give it to me without a prescription (he was hesitating because it's just a shampoo you know, lol). The one I bought at Walmart was in the medicated shampoo section, but there was a note on its box as "non prescription strength". It has 1% Ketoconazole. Not sure if the prescription version would have a higher amount of it though. But since I am thick-haired and have no family related hair loss issue, I guess this non prescription strength Nizoral would be good enough as long as it has that Ketoconazole.

Another thing, this version I bought at Walmart seem like it's being marketed as an anti-dandruff shampoo, not for hair loss or hair loss prevention, etc. The instructions says use every 3-4 days for up to 8 weeks, so I guess this won't work as my "regular" shampoo then since I shower daily, I'd have to use my "regular" daily shampoo.

Get the 970mg pills and the shampoo. You need the Saw Palmetto in your body. The shampoo is great to treat you hair directly but the shit gets washed off, you need some in the blood stream.

 

[-Guido-]

Bro,

I just went to Walmart and got me a Nizoral. There seem to be a difference between prescription and non prescription Nizoral, because there's a pharmacy next to where I work that I had asked for Nizoral but the pharmacist would not give it to me without a prescription (he was hesitating because it's just a shampoo you know, lol). The one I bought at Walmart was in the medicated shampoo section, but there was a note on its box as "non prescription strength". It has 1% Ketoconazole. Not sure if the prescription version would have a higher amount of it though. But since I am thick-haired and have no family related hair loss issue, I guess this non prescription strength Nizoral would be good enough as long as it has that Ketoconazole.

Another thing, this version I bought at Walmart seem like it's being marketed as an anti-dandruff shampoo, not for hair loss or hair loss prevention, etc. The instructions says use every 3-4 days for up to 8 weeks, so I guess this won't work as my "regular" shampoo then since I shower daily, I'd have to use my "regular" daily shampoo.

The prescription version has a higher amount but the one you got will do the trick. Nizoral was never marketed as a hair loss shampoo, it's just that somehow a bunch of bodybuilders and juiceheads realized the active ingredient in it not only got rid of dandruff, but it helped maintain a head of healthy hair and stopped shedding.

Use your regular shampoo first in the shower to clean your hair and rid it of natural oils, then follow up with the Nizoral. Use it everyday for the duration of the cycle.

That's funny you went to Wal-Mart, that's where I get my protien powder, where I picked up my Nizoral, where I get my Saw Palmetto and what not, and where I get my soaps and creams for keeping my skin free of steroid induced acne lol.

 

[ongos]

all the products you got from Walmart are good prices compared elsewhere, except I think the protein powder. I checked everywhere for prices for the products you got since I also got those or will get it soon and Walmart has them cheapest. Protein powders vary who is selling them. I get mines cheaper at 10% discount additionally at bodybuilding.com. I get the Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein, 10 pound bag. I think if you buy more stuff, like over $100, you get free shipping, plus 10% discount. GNC prices are usually jacked up for its convenience.

What's your soap? I use Safeguard. 99% antibacterial, at Walmart. I guess this will help with everything skin related (acne, etc.). The cocoa butter cream I got it from the pharmacy I spoke about earlier. It's about $1 more than Walmart. I will get mines next time at Walmart. Same product, different price. I bought the Palmer's Cocoa Butter cream. Is this the cream for your acne? I use this now for my stretchmarks. The saw palmetto at Walmart is 2-pack, 450mg, 100 pill per bottle (200 pill total), 2 pill per serving to get the 450mg. Not bad.

I don't know how you get acne. I thought with on cycle therapy using Arimidex, it should block such thing? None of the pro bodybuilders look like they ever get acne. Skin is clear.

The prescription version has a higher amount but the one you got will do the trick. Nizoral was never marketed as a hair loss shampoo, it's just that somehow a bunch of bodybuilders and juiceheads realized the active ingredient in it not only got rid of dandruff, but it helped maintain a head of healthy hair and stopped shedding.

Use your regular shampoo first in the shower to clean your hair and rid it of natural oils, then follow up with the Nizoral. Use it everyday for the duration of the cycle.

That's funny you went to Wal-Mart, that's where I get my protien powder, where I picked up my Nizoral, where I get my Saw Palmetto and what not, and where I get my soaps and creams for keeping my skin free of steroid induced acne lol.

 

[Voxide]

Spending money simply to delay the inevitable. I just don't fucking get it. If MPB doesn't run in your family, then you're fine. If it does, then get a FUE transplant and run all the winny you want without ever worrying about hair loss again. Just please, put all of this money toward food, and don't you dare try to run a systematic DHT blocker like Proscar, or else hair loss will be the last of your worries.

 

[-Guido-]

I don't know how you get acne. I thought with on cycle therapy using Arimidex, it should block such thing? None of the pro bodybuilders look like they ever get acne. Skin is clear.

Steroids stimulate the production of oil and sebum. It ends up clogging pores and then you have a few blemishes. Some people get acne all over there body, others get it all over their face, some just get on their back, and some get no acne at all.

All pro bodybuilders have had or will get acne at some point unless they are lucky, have ran a cycle of Accutane, or keep on top of it with creams, soaps, and washes.

I just get a little on my back. It's no big deal. They only reason I am getting it is because I'm on 100mg of home brewed Tren Ace a day. When summer rolls around I'll be switching to 250mg of Test E a week, some Masteron, Epistaine, and a little Stananzol in oil. There is no fucking way in hell I could deal with the summer heat on 100mg of Tren Ace a day. I don't want the oily skin that comes with it anyways during the summer, I want my back clear. Even one blemish is to much. I am very vain.